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mircea_popescu: o o ok i see. i mixed the .3 and .7 aite
mircea_popescu: ok. now, i come and put 0.7 on dems. what's this do ?
mircea_popescu: so i get 5, say.
mircea_popescu: aite, so let's try it. since you're somehow decided it must be 0.1s for some reason, i put 0.5 on dems. what's that do ?
mike_c: if i guess the bridge will fall down when you drive over it.
mircea_popescu: now he goes all taylor on it i bet
mike_c: in my mind it works. i may not be explaining correctly
mike_c: i give up.
mike_c: i can specify, just can't do the integral off the top of my head.
mircea_popescu: so if i spend 10 btc i get a number of shares you can't specify. wjhat happens next ?
mircea_popescu: i got 10 btc on the dems right here. i send it to your site. what happens ?
mircea_popescu: i think irl bitbet seeds more like .3 .7 bu anyway
mircea_popescu: so what do i do now ?
mike_c: well, i think parimutuel wagering on mathematical things is silly :)
mike_c: if there is sufficient interest from people i can work up a simulation.
mike_c: i'll ask havelock. probably tomorrow.
mike_c: ok.. i think i understand enough to design bitbet v2.
kakobrekla: i like png better.
asciilifeform: if jpeg came in multi-page variant, i'd have jpeg.
mike_c: how could i possibly open a pdf from someone i know could hack the shit out of me if he wanted to?
mircea_popescu: i like this guy.
mike_c: it's got some good proposals for how to do it. i'm working on the tl;dr.
Vexual: thats what i mean ascii, the area is fake
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I take that to mean they'll randomly power up the computer when you aren't using to to see if you found any bitcoins yet.
Vexual: i still prefer the physical areana with drones, paid for by discorvey channel
mircea_popescu: this was "news" in 200 bc too. i dunno why it's so counterintuitive
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's possible substitution for reputation generally.
mircea_popescu: i can be all, ha, i was doing this in 2012 newbs.
mircea_popescu: i guess roua's accident recently left a hole.
jurov: nope, i dont give root :)
mircea_popescu: not like i won't let you make a bet that expires early or that ends with w/e weight etc
mike_c: mircea_popescu: yeah, i was thinking about that. but its not like its not a cloudy soup right now.
mircea_popescu: you basically now live in a cloudy soup of "i can't fucking know wjhat i'm betting on"
ThickAsThieves: i mean that in the starting from linear sense, not saying an extreme taper would be better
mircea_popescu: i mean to be clear, im not proposing linear timeweight is the absolutely correct solution. it's obviously wrong, life isn't linear.
mike_c: yeah, i'll think it through.
mircea_popescu: mebbe i only think i got what you mean
mike_c: thinking it through. i believe it is different because the guy who bets the first 10btc gets more than the guy who bets the last 10btc
ThickAsThieves: ah i see
ThickAsThieves: i honestly dont havce it thought thru
mircea_popescu: i can follow mike_c proposal but not yours, and moreover they seem quite distinct
mircea_popescu: mike_c i dunno what it'd be
mike_c: i'm warming up to the 'spend weight' idea
jurov: and i strongly dount that curve is linear
mircea_popescu: i can't even follow the guy's idea
ThickAsThieves: you know what i mean tho?
jurov: no, all the bets i can bet, but have weight like 50k or 30k
ThickAsThieves: i still have my email spam from them
Duffer1: no i'm not sure if they've actually shipped though
the20year2: I wonder what kind of facility they're in
mircea_popescu: did i get the 0s right ?
ThickAsThieves: last i checked, taking candy from babies wasn't good for the rep
Duffer1: it's not intended to benefit the investor so i'd call that a scam, maybe not "theft"
the20year2: makes me wish i'd of asked for 5k bitcoins instead of the 700
the20year2: I retain 35% of my divs too, but then I ponied up $30k+ into the fund :D
the20year2: I always laugh at how these companies are set up, i've gone overboard with mine, and no one cares
Duffer1: i can't imagine that will ever rio
the20year2: i'm sure
jurov: i'll add it on coinbr, but it needs scary warning you need b-c account to settle it
sois: i sent him a proposal that would automate the process, i'm guessing he is just using excel and manually doing it which must be a hassle
ThickAsThieves: either way i'll square up any divs
ThickAsThieves: i suspect he'll just fix it and not say anything...
ThickAsThieves: seem i can only get his attention once each week
Duffer1: ya i was lookin in wrong chan >.<
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Duffer1: couple of reddit rumor threads so far, that's all i've been able to find
asciilifeform: i turned 30 2 wks ago...
asciilifeform: phun phact: i've had people write to me: 'fscking keep over already, geezer'.
benkay: i'm a near total neophyte to the execution of code and the things upon which they execute, so your grumpy old man attitude is fascinating to keep in mind while coming up to speed on the rest of the stack.
benkay: first i'd ever encountered the notion of dataflow stuff
benkay: asciilifeform: i dreamt about a dataflow soup (using biocomputing elements) last night and then read your Alert Reader post this morning.
mircea_popescu: all i recall is this dos-age splash screen
mircea_popescu: was supposed to start today. i guess davout is having some tech trouble ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it'd be ~1050 even so
taub_: because i'm chinese
mircea_popescu: i'm not a fucking exchange. i gotta pick one.
mircea_popescu: i tell you euro will turn worthless in the next ten years a degree of magnitude more often than btc will
lyspooner: nonsense in what way? it prevents the situation i just described
lyspooner: imagine i buy 100 contracts while there is a single market-maker, davout, because i am comfortable with his terms of delivery
lyspooner: ah ok, i've been look at icbit too long
lyspooner: so if i buy 1000 contracts at .0015 and the future expires at 10,000,000 eur on the final settlement day, and the short can't give me 10 billion euros, what do i get?
jurov: i see
lyspooner: i could bankrupt davout by buying several instances of 1 euro from davout, holding them to expiration and having him wire me 1 eur at as many bank accounts as i have contracts
lyspooner: so i buy 1 x.eur, hold it to expiration, and then davout gives me 1 eur
mircea_popescu: <lyspooner> and do i understand the specifications correctly that davout will be responsible for defining delivery details? << within reason and in advance.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you getting a lot of that in -otc these days huh ? i see Azelphur negging people, that's a rarity.
lyspooner: and do i understand the specifications correctly that davout will be responsible for defining delivery details?
Apocalyptic: i call him out, he's our usual scammer in -otc
Apocalyptic: i can imagine
KINGLILJAYYYYYYY: i was livid
KINGLILJAYYYYYYY: i was fucking mad
KINGLILJAYYYYYYY: what i been saying
ASAPCA: now that I got my hands on you
ASAPCA: i swear to fucking god
nubbins`: yeah, i'm officially done with chess for the night
BingoBoingo: I completely forgot the King could take pieces when I went Qd1
BingoBoingo: I believe that would be actively castling into check...
BingoBoingo: I don't know that Castling through check is legal...
BingoBoingo: I lose a bunch IRL though. And back when CoinChat was a thing I lost quite a few games there
BingoBoingo: For the night. Career I believe it is 4-0, someone else played a game at a point