asciilifeform: and there's the kind which crunches eagerly, like chocolate

asciilifeform: there is, for instance, a kind of gristly and sinewy chump that grinds apart in the chumpatron very reluctantly

asciilifeform: decimation: i never said i wasn't a chump. but there are different species of chump.

asciilifeform: and since when is construction 'free' ?

asciilifeform: not to mention other interesting nuances (see herr orlov's blog, not me, for detail) - e.g. dry-docking regularly to patch/repaint the damn thing

asciilifeform: in most american ports

asciilifeform: decimation: last i checked, marina fee + utilities was close to the cost of small flat

asciilifeform: but it doesn't exactly work for most people.

asciilifeform: moiety: while you're at it, we can also note that living far out at sea is free

asciilifeform: tg2: the folks who 'bought' during bubble peak, etc. are still doomed

asciilifeform: tg2: more interesting than that. you can easily 'buy' the shark with the 'goldfish' price - because you are also paying with your arse virginity in that scenario

asciilifeform: 'fish is what we don't have over at the fish counter'

asciilifeform: 'i have $xxxx.' 'sorry, you can't get - shit - for $xxxx' - or for '$xxxxx'

asciilifeform: i started looking for new flat soon after mp's essay on 'bezzle dollar' and thought it was hilariously fitting

asciilifeform: moiety: in u.s., folks with money traditionally keep credit cards, which are paid off as soon as they are used, for 'x percent back' crap.

asciilifeform: chumper 'buys' a house, wants to move, discovers that he'll be stuck paying for the rest of his natural life for a house he isn't living in

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it does - to him.

asciilifeform: moiety: in the u.s. (no idea about elsewhere) - they have 'special' credit offers for the freshly bankrupt. with 40% interest, etc.

asciilifeform: so he rents it out, often at a loss

asciilifeform: man wants to move - can't, because no one will pay for his building what he paid.

asciilifeform: i know one fellow like that. just trying to stem losses

asciilifeform: actually, my understanding is that many of them are 'civilians' who went 'underwater'

asciilifeform: imagine paying $3k/mo for a building with no garbage disposal

asciilifeform: they exist, but tend to be 'for students' (even when hours away from any kind of school) and full of antiquated crap

asciilifeform: on top of this, it is virtually impossible to rent a house at all where i live.

asciilifeform: but 'one way.'

asciilifeform: perhaps those are... free.

asciilifeform: first thought was 'gasenwagen'

asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/ODmkenB

asciilifeform: so, there i was, checking out a potential replacement for my flat, and saw this, alive:

asciilifeform: this promises to end like that folk tale - the executioner is ordered to chop his own head.

asciilifeform: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-05/abn-amro-ex-ceo-found-dead

asciilifeform: can't wait until somebody thinks of offering fucktard loans with... btc private keys as collateral.

asciilifeform: relevant to... things.

asciilifeform: http://www.mainlesson.com/display.php?author=lang&book=red&story=voice

asciilifeform: and i had the honour of being publicly beheaded as a spammer there.

asciilifeform: proof-of-torment

asciilifeform: hellcoin

asciilifeform: koran.

asciilifeform: what braggartry! the things i don't understand... could fill a galactic library.

asciilifeform: http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/michael-lewis-shilling-for-the-buyside

asciilifeform: unrelated:

asciilifeform: so the early transistor, for a while, could not compete on price.

asciilifeform: this was actually a serious leap in vacuum tube tech - they didn't need to be pumped, or made of glass ☟︎

asciilifeform: existed.

asciilifeform: ;;google nuvistor

asciilifeform: grantmanship.

asciilifeform: jurov: which one?

asciilifeform: 99% of the maths anybody uses now, too.

asciilifeform: (yes, incl. semiconductors)

asciilifeform: the '20s were not 'stone age.' they had most of what we have now, roughly.

asciilifeform: jurov: something like edison's mercury pump, i believe.

asciilifeform: if embarking on this, get an ion diffusion 2nd stage pump from a university surplus. $100 or so where i live.

asciilifeform: the hard vacuum is the... hard part.

asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-QMuUQhVM

asciilifeform: blew - as in, glass

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever make valves?

asciilifeform: neato

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the light bulbs! you blew these yourself?

asciilifeform: or, for that matter, arsecoin

asciilifeform: 'submit a high resolution image of yourself holding your ID' << anyone else reminded of '419 baiting' ?

asciilifeform: this is one of those things where i can't help but think that anyone who pays for it - deserves what he gets

asciilifeform: int add1(int x) {if (x == 1) 2 ....

asciilifeform: the results, for those who have not witnessed this personally, are usually exactly what one would expect.

asciilifeform: a human compiler is a kind of wretch, usually overseas, who is nominally paid to turn 'human' language spec into a program.

asciilifeform: the latter usually referring to a 'human compiler'

asciilifeform: i've actually seen people describe employing 'programmers' and 'coders' both

asciilifeform: feels a little like the '90s american fashion of calling janitor 'building engineer'

asciilifeform: (perhaps i ought to know better than to ask such questions...)

asciilifeform: wtf is a 'coding specialist' - like a programmer, but moar fashion?

asciilifeform: i think i missed something

asciilifeform: volume?

asciilifeform: and not only signature, but small bits of encryption as well. anyone who doesn't grasp this mustn't wait, but open a textbook and work out what happens if you rsa a small bit of whatever, without padding.

asciilifeform: but for signature nonces

asciilifeform: not only, as commonly supposed, for key gen

asciilifeform: all public-key crypto lives and dies by rng

asciilifeform: incidentally

asciilifeform: mike_c: see the android btc wallet incident.

asciilifeform: mike_c: if you do this, you will live or die by your RNG.

asciilifeform: pankkake: is that... turdmeister?

asciilifeform: said propaganda is riotously funny, when you drive by pub after pub with enormous parking lots

asciilifeform: *pickled

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik 'designated drivers' only exist in ministry of health propaganda - the usual reality is that everyone is thoroughly picked, including the drivers

asciilifeform: he'll dutifully confess and move in.

asciilifeform: or, more generally, some designated luser with no better purpose at the moment.

asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: among the chechens, etc. the clan picks a 'youngest son' or whatever to do the time in his brother's place

asciilifeform: for 'suspended sentences'

asciilifeform: every other door was a 'bondsman' (lending bail money) or a contractor which sold gps collars

asciilifeform: the town where the courthouse stood (see my recollections about juries previously) was a real laugh:

asciilifeform: complete with escritoire, if i recall.

asciilifeform: looks quite like a '40s hotel room

asciilifeform: in wash. d.c., there is a private museaum, 'crime & punishment', with famous electric chairs, etc. they also have a reconstructed example of such a jail cell

asciilifeform: but they go great together.

asciilifeform: where 99% of the accused plead guilty to some largely-fictional charge

asciilifeform: well over here they also have an interesting legal concept, 'plea bargain'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is certainly effective for... a purpose. just not the stated one - 'findings of fact'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ?

asciilifeform: and since when does a military trial use a jury ?

asciilifeform: fridge logic ?

asciilifeform: i assume everyone has seen the 'peoples of walmart' crap. well, that's who gets to sit on the jury.