asciilifeform: not familiar with the 'complex objects' in question.

asciilifeform: to my great shame, i (well, my research group, at my request) bought his software once.

asciilifeform: but that was a while ago.

asciilifeform: ;;google wolfram batshit insanity

asciilifeform: bounce: well there was (still is...) a wealthy american crackpot who claimed cellular automata as his invention, suing anyone who publicly disagreed

asciilifeform: basic idea, desperado who isn't wanted for anything but thinks he's 'hot on the run'

asciilifeform: i used to think that 'elusive joe' is an american expression

asciilifeform: naturally

asciilifeform: lusive because no one needed him.'

asciilifeform: 'The "Elusive Joe" (Russian: Неуловимый Джо) has become an ironic nickname in Russia for various difficult-to-find persons (not necessarily unimportant ones). It is suggested that the nickname and the joke originated from a 1923 satirical novel An Elusive Enemy. American Novel by Mikhail Kozyrev (ru:Козырев, Михаил Яковлевич) which contained a funny song about a Joe who was e

asciilifeform: robwhiz22 is 'elusive joe'

asciilifeform: all depends on context.

asciilifeform: in some places, savage brute is someone who picks his nose - in others, one who never heard of differential equations.

asciilifeform: read 'savage brute'

asciilifeform: but also for folks with no manners

asciilifeform: basic soviet meaning, a fellow who's had no truck with human cultural achievements - literature, physics, philosophy, whatever

asciilifeform: probably exists in all slavic languages

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gum chewing definition of “acultural” << term 'nekulturny' actually pops up in english texts on occasion. because it applies.

asciilifeform: 'fix' in the 'veterinary' sense of the word.

asciilifeform: wonder at what point exchanges will survive primarily on payola from whoever they are stoolies for, rather than commissions

asciilifeform: at this point, even the most threadbare engineer is probably just buying coin from his coworkers

asciilifeform: (or this happened ages ago, and i'm just the last one to notice)

asciilifeform: we might be witnessing a bifurcation a la 'bezzle dollar'

asciilifeform: think like enemy. where would you put the surprise egg?

asciilifeform: quite a few. dig if you like.

asciilifeform: 'you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.'

asciilifeform: berkeley db?

asciilifeform: if i recall, bitcoind has some relatively 'dirty' (changes in recent years) library deps

asciilifeform: i'll be sure to pick one up before rocketing off to visit the ancients.

asciilifeform: we're all bourbaki.

asciilifeform: some folks flunked spam school. didn't read 'spam like a pro in 21 days!' very attentively.

asciilifeform: mike_c: invest in a soldering iron. you'll be surprised at what can be made just from what people throw away.

asciilifeform: mike_c: 'everybody' is obsessed with the rng, but it's 1960s tech.

asciilifeform: mike_c: the rng.

asciilifeform: robwhiz22: you may wish to consider becoming distinguishable from a nigerian spammer

asciilifeform: this leaves... emacs+slime (and an obscure, experimental variant of 'vi')

asciilifeform: and, preferably, can be wired to the evaluator for real-time experimentation

asciilifeform: at the very least, you need an editor that will match parens and auto-indent for you

asciilifeform: certainly possible

asciilifeform: lisp, of whatever kind, without emacs, is quite like trying to do international business without knowing a word of english

asciilifeform: ooda loop

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=202

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i use emacs and 'slime', personally. 'f1' key wired to 'eval sexpr in current cursor'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it had no appeal, who would do it

asciilifeform: robwhiz22: ok so you've formally confessed to being the earlier bozo.

asciilifeform: robwhiz22: if you've something to suggest, please do it here

asciilifeform: robwhiz22: cardano is co-authored by me & mp. not dictated by him as work for hire. (see s.nsa contract on mpex.co for who's who)

asciilifeform: positively salivating!

asciilifeform: i especially look forward to hearing about how the widget is 'not fit for any purpose.'

asciilifeform: interesting that someone might write a whatever re: cardano and not ask me.

asciilifeform: (i believe that's the english term for it)

asciilifeform: tone poem

asciilifeform: ;;google dear departed cadaver to enjoy

asciilifeform: whos exam he... flunks

asciilifeform: goes home, and planet is run by intelligent fungi

asciilifeform: he goes back and kills... just about everyone he failed exams on

asciilifeform: there was a great soviet cartoon about a kid who hates history class and then gets a time machine

asciilifeform: lol!

asciilifeform: boost 20th c. iq by a point or two

asciilifeform: jurov: may as well go back and zap the fellow responsible for tetraethyl lead in gasoline

asciilifeform: robwhiz22: what sense would the reply make to the rest of us if we don't know the question?

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165

asciilifeform: my collection of naggumiana:

asciilifeform: for those who never encountered naggum, he was a fellow who often bulldozed idiots as a public service, much like mircea_popescu.

asciilifeform: or else your answer wouldn't make sense

asciilifeform: robwhiz22: i imagine you'd have to confess here wtf the 'proposal' is

asciilifeform: (codpiece?)

asciilifeform: to avoid having to aim the scope, it would have to be mounted on... the user's crotch level.

asciilifeform: for some reason i picture the 'scope' as a gadget a la the MIT roulette cheating machine

asciilifeform: it will do to 'pick uppery' what rifling did for small arms

asciilifeform: at some point 'flir' camera on phones will bring this game back.

asciilifeform: and what supposedly accounted for their quick disappearance

asciilifeform: anyone remember liquid crystal pants?

asciilifeform: ;;google deng xiaoping cat colour

asciilifeform: little did they know, in 2014, about the uterus searches of 2030...

asciilifeform: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3244575386963745@naggum.no.html

asciilifeform: obligatory - naggum's bathtub:

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: one day (tm) people will wake up and see that 'c machine', memory allocation in software, untyped pointers, etc. are dumb.

asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: things such as these are a good part of my day job.

asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: neato.

asciilifeform: at least, traditionally

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not quite. ltc is the botnet aficionado's coin.

asciilifeform: 'Perhaps the basic myth of the Western world is Jack the Giant-killer, but to be brought up to date this should be renamed Jack the Dwarf-killer...'

asciilifeform: http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/chase/english/e_bland

asciilifeform: ...he was giving me a shit-eating grin about NSA... most creepy was his pride << orwell had a pretty good piece on this

asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: you can repossess a pizza !?

asciilifeform: youheardithere1st (tm)

asciilifeform: wait for... the new, seekuur!1! replacement for tor.

asciilifeform: where they get reprocessed into biodiesel.

asciilifeform: they should just build a surrender pit for idiots to jump in.

asciilifeform: (tldr - pretend the last 40 years, other than semiconductor chemistry, never happened)

asciilifeform: people have this very special facial expression they make when they finally understand what i've been arguing for

asciilifeform: so they're as hosed as everyone

asciilifeform: most web crap in common lisp uses 'CL+SSL', an FFI wrapper of traditional openssl.

asciilifeform: it is dog-slow - exactly what unfortunates who went to uni for 'comp sci' expect a lisp to be like.

asciilifeform: 'clisp' is mostly used by people running 'exotica' (machines for which there is no 'sbcl')

asciilifeform: never used it.

asciilifeform: they're rather different things

asciilifeform: clisp as in 'common lisp' or the particular implementation thereof called 'clisp' ?