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mircea_popescu: jurov no but seriously, what, some coral reefs ? some volcanic islands a mile wide ? this is something someone should care about ?
mircea_popescu: but also because who knows, could be a comedy goldmine.
jurov: ah "not a thing"... another mp's canned reply
mircea_popescu: oceania is not a thing
nubbins`: don't i just feel silly for shovelling a walking path down the middle of my street
nubbins`: OH MY GOD A SNOW PLOW
nubbins`: jurov: "all a big scam" ;p
antephialtic: I don't have any funds in coinbase, but they are a major point of centralization
antephialtic: they had a security issue that allowed user accounts to be enumerated, and I suspect that is the problem, that scammers are trying to combine that with fake info and sell as a real dump
antephialtic: glassdoor has a decent one: http://www.glassdoor.com/blog/salaries-glassdoor-bitcoins/
MisterE: BTCe doin a little April 1 funny
moiety: BingoBoingo: the disappearing blogger returned again, this time to hang around and wondered where you hung around but thinks this is a bit much for him. sends his regards though
moiety: lolol "also run a bitcoin miner"
Mats_cd03: anyone have a link to the chart of bitcoin holders in the world
VanCleef: seedcoin is a massive scam i suspect
decimation: http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/maths/histstat/chartism.pdf "Conclusive facts are inseperable from inconclusive except by a head that already understands and knows." ☟︎
MisterE: I generally dont give alt coins much creedance but that may be a mistake
mircea_popescu: fiat was not a replacement for barter
mircea_popescu: tech. 2000 years later, still not a silver bullet.
MisterE: heh in a way I guess
decimation: meanwhile, the NY state regulator on bitcoin (from my link): LAWSKY: Yes, and I think my understanding and it was really from the day-two testimony when I asked that question again about programmable currency that that is one of the things that potentially you could have with the color coding. They also gave an example of a young person whose parents want to give them an allowance but want to make sure that it goes for certain things and not
decimation: that's a good poing
mircea_popescu: MisterE the best part is this : at the time, if i told a proponent that "govt will just monopolize it" he'd just have loled at me. "what are you talking about, ANYONE CAN ISSUE PAPER"
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with either of the two, up until they're being brandished by a thief.
mircea_popescu: but in the same sense the tech of a pistol is better than the tech of a sword.
decimation: that's a good point
mircea_popescu: im sure when law was writing it wasn't directly obvious that the thing'll end up as a welfare scam either.
decimation: it seems like it's not possible for bitcoin to be run by a government
decimation: it sounds like trying to grasp both poles of a contradiction
mircea_popescu: the problem with paper money run by a government is exactly the same as the problem with a bitcoin run by government.
decimation: Except, anyone who takes bitcoin seriously would also think that John Law is a lunatic
decimation: ANDREESSEN: One of the characteristics of a new idea is all the experts who came up in the old regime look at it and laugh...Almost exactly 300 years ago, a Scottish economist, ironically, named John Law basically invented at the time this crazy idea of paper currency or fiat currency. ... And every economist on the planet 300 years ago thought that he was a complete lunatic. And so I think this is just the story, the recurring story of how
decimation: Your link on trilema had me laughing for a few hours
mircea_popescu: "According to a March 28th filing in Manhattan federal court, Assistant U.S. Attorney Serrin Turner has asked for the 24-year-old Shrem’s case to be postponed until April 28th."
mircea_popescu: "Charlie Shrem, known for his alleged involvement in the Silk Road scandal, is in talks with US prosecutors for a plea bargain."
diametric: Maybe so, I vaguely remember at the time of it happening a lot of organization changes took place but its been a while now.
diametric: Though, CN's parent company still holds a significant portion of shares they're independently owned
MisterE: but 2_ac had actually laid down the tracks in a premonition of his upcoming death he went on a recording binge
MisterE: indeed been around for a long time
mircea_popescu: i wonder if this nonsense will become a trend.
mircea_popescu: how is it a mj album
ThickAsThieves: he does a pretty good job with timberlake'
antephialtic: a fool and his bitcoin are soon parted
ThickAsThieves: i enjoyed the garble, was a nice surprise reading logs on tablet
mircea_popescu: well it is a cute joke lol
kakobrekla: anyway, just add ?stopitkako if you really need a clean log nao.
antephialtic: agreed. additionally Many do not prefer to enter a potentially compromising conversation when the medium is written
kakobrekla: eh, let the girl have a day off
mircea_popescu: what i dislike is a bunch of fucktards going around with money that isn't theirs, muddying things up.
MisterE: nothing other than being a space enthusiast
mircea_popescu: the state is everywhere and all the time a drawback.
MisterE: you need a state with a surplus to do that too
asciilifeform: mr. mold had a good tidbit on this:
antephialtic: hard to see how such pursuits would be funded without a system of universities (and thereby the state that funds it)
antephialtic: regardless of your thoughts on welfare, with regards to science their are many avenues of basic research that cannot be justified from a pure ROI standpoint yet have long term benefits to technological advancement. Such as the development of pure mathematics, etcetra
asciilifeform: just about every interesting technology attributed to a mega-organization was done on 'stolen time.'
MisterE: when was the last time a government "fixed" anything?
antephialtic: t'll lead to a future consolidation of wealth, extremely low levels of social mobility and weak economic performance compared to countries that use a more mixed method. From a competition viewpoint this is not a good position."
antephialtic: his thoughts: "Now, whilst some might welcome the reduction in the state caused by a loss of taxation, the state is THE key economic driver of innovation, prosperity and social mobility. The laissez faire economic system is an extreme mindset of some of the more ardent supporters of Freidmanism and the Chicago School. There is no basis for assuming a beneficial society can be created without the state and in all likelihood i
mircea_popescu: idiot b;logger.com. was gonna leave the guy a reply, but a well.
pankkake: by the way: http://blog.oleganza.com/post/79783931404/idea-of-a-useful-altcoin (last two paragraphs)
mircea_popescu: antephialtic seems just a rehash of older material really.
antephialtic: This guy gets it: http://blog.gardeviance.org/2013/11/a-spoiler-for-future-bitcoin.html
antephialtic: I don't think cryptocoins will make the world any more egalitarian. Probably less so, as their widespread use would deny the state a lot of tax revenue
asciilifeform: there's possible merit to the experiment if you have a specific enemy in mind, who Must Die (tm), rather than some foggy notion of 'equality'
asciilifeform: that is, even a hypothetical permanently 'asic-proof' algo rewards... botnets.
antephialtic: asciilifeform: what are the characteristics of a cellular automaton PoW that make it resistant to an ASIC implementation?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform give them a decade. reading these logs is slow work.
asciilifeform: didn't i post a perfectly usable counter-example?
mircea_popescu: We have not come across a proof of work algorithm that is truly ASIC-proof and quick to verify. All alternatives will only delay the problem, and at a considerable cost.
mircea_popescu: a war is a war.
mircea_popescu: a hard fork is a political event. they get the old chain coins they chose.
mircea_popescu: Wtf is the point of crypto if a bank can simply mine all the coins themselves, the entire point of crypto was to get away from elitist bankers
mircea_popescu: And it would be a great way to stick it to the mega banker elite class who invested billions in Asic hardware.
antephialtic: but with bitcoin it would be a lot more dangerous as many merchants would get scammed while their were still multiple viable forks
mircea_popescu: a hardfork is a major event, but definitely not impossible.
antephialtic: I think forking the chain is interesting, would give a lot of incentive for miners and users to switch if the tech was actually better
asciilifeform: i thought every alt was a 'hostile fork' ?
pankkake: interesting experiment though - how could a hostile hardfork be received in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: there's a deep understanding of what humanity is all about, that someone as fucking weird as dostoievski could exhibit nevertheless
asciilifeform: rms is a special case. he used to be a fairly sociable creature before his motherland was burned to the ground.
antephialtic: but rms is a greybeard. a neckbeard who is respected widely for technical contributions
antephialtic: a friend of mine works in the same building as stallman. says he does all kinds of weird shit in the office
mircea_popescu: neckbeard = 30something male with poor hygiene, lack of socialisation and a monitor tan
BingoBoingo: This stuff really pops up in most internet fora where the operators develop a pretense of importance and being cereal.
mircea_popescu: can you be a bit of both ?
BingoBoingo: Maybe a bit of both?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla your forum wordmixer gave mpoe-pr a small heart attack lol
mike_c: everybody starts a newbie (except ascii)
artifexd: I was shocked to find posts by you. Granted, they were a few years ago. But still...
mike_c: it's like shit with a sprinkling of honey. i would bitbet this but it's not definable.
mike_c: 50 people posting exclusively on a forum could draw traffic, but i don't believe it works when the content is forwarded to the competition.
nubbins`: you get access to a special subforum where people post plans for diy equipment
nubbins`: gigposters.com forums have a "premium membership" option for $20/year
tg2: sort of a one-way-glass type affair
tg2: we had a car enthousaist forum that had a "premium" section where members could pay and had to be invited to do so
tg2: maybe a simpler wot
mircea_popescu: anyway, i had a forum on the old polimedia domain, same principle, also pretty dead.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` a wot i mean.
mircea_popescu: goat has a wot now ?