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mircea_popescu: alternatively, they get
a pitchfork mob going, and i'll have to hire
a security detail around the shop.
mircea_popescu: the simile would be
a down syndrome kid walking into
a shop going GLEEEERHRHRHR!!
mike_c: and you have
a non-voting share..
tg2: yes, but if you owned
a share
Duffer1: tg2 probably
a trilema article on it
Duffer1: to be fair jurassic park was
a good book
Namworld: If people think they're official, it's because they don't understand Bitcoin, not because they run
a Bitcoin forum.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea. why would these derps run
a bitcoin forum ?
Namworld: Why would I run
a catholic choir?
Namworld:
A little mention "not official, Bitcoin is decentralized" under the names would be nice, but what if they don't? I ain't going to harass them all day long, now, should I?
mircea_popescu: well maybe you should run
a catholic choir nambla local group then ?
Namworld: It claims to be
a Bitcoin forum like the foundation says Bitcoin Foundation. That people perceive them as official or not, I don't care.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla deeper than that : they moderate the content to favour scammers, under
a pretense of moderating the form.
Namworld: There's
a reason why I'm not
a forum admin tho, hard decisions to make, everyone always butthurt all the time, more bland content and same old being repated you can't read and filter everything.
mircea_popescu: especially if that JoeDork was someone with
a reputation of any kind.
mircea_popescu: if it was JoeDorksForum your position would stand
a lot better,
mircea_popescu: is there
a difference between "i perceive
a difference" and "there is
a difference" ?
Namworld: There's
a difference between "This guy is
a scammer LINK" "This is
a scam because X, Y, Z or because I think so" and "You sound like
a scammer, get the fuck out you dimwit scum"
mircea_popescu: "Your honor, we finally got around to reading 2012 Trilema. We humbly submit this is
a complete gamechanger."
Namworld: And I wouldn't ban scam accusations, weither true or false, like I wouldn't ban someone I thought is probably
a scammer, weither true or false?
Namworld: Calling out
a scam is not an insult. It's at best accurate, at worst an erroneous assumptions.
ozbot: Your mother was
a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries - YouTube
mircea_popescu: your mother was
a hampster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Namworld: Honestly, I'd probably just ban people insulting others/derailing threads regardless of how likely they are right or the accused is
a scammer.
Namworld: They already gave
a rating system for people to leave feedbacks/make investigation of scam accusation easy. Rating page will list all the wrongs people are accused of.
Namworld: That should indeed be implemented. So scammers can't leverage an account with lots of post to make
a clean thread. Yet again, if you don't look up the guy's history even if the thread is clean...
Namworld: Not like banning them would prevent them from coming back under
a new identity.
kakobrekla: interestingly there seems to be two groups of people. first think asseters took ze drugs, the second group thinks they them selfs are on something. perhaps this tells
a thing.
mircea_popescu: Namworld yeah except if you ban people that tell you to get fucked after you deleted
a half dozen posts they made ostensibly because "you have to minimise the visibility of moderation" but really because you just as well didn't want their content visible
Namworld: They provide
a medium to communicate, they don't protect people from themselves/scammers.
mod6: lilo` was
a freenode admin back in the day.
mircea_popescu: answer :
a mobster and acting boss of the bonanno crime family.
Namworld: I can see why they'd say they only ban people derailing conversations/insulting without proofs. And just put
a little scammer tag only once it's proven it's
a scam.
ThickAsThieves: <moiety> ThickAsThieves: if you really want banned, simply go in anything and personally insult people offtopic. /// seems
a step too far for me, i'll just not visit anymore unless to view
a reference from this chan, or the like
mircea_popescu: prolly can clear 10 dollars
a day on average, for 8 hour's work, which is just about the worldwide net average salary.
Namworld: Some might not be poor. Like
a kid, just for the thrill. Scam
a little amount.
Namworld: Scamming 10 bucks here, 50 there, making new accounts and
a few posts and small trades.
Namworld: I'm sure it's
a job for many on the forums/otc.
Namworld: It's completly not worth it to sue them, plus people won't do it just for the principle because the person is probably poor and in bad need of money. So why send
a message by suing for something so small? (On top of it being close to impossible, re other jurisdiction combined with low amount)
bounce: asleep at the wheel then trying to pull
a sgt. hardass, wasn't too impressive from what little I saw of it.
moiety: mircea_popescu: i just caught up properly. is mpoe-pr ok? I hope so. it's pretty rough going dealing with shit for
a long time and it then it ending unfairly.
kakobrekla: > In fact, this opportunity gives Seedcoin
a substantial position in the most reputable, popular and advanced derivative trading platform for Bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: largest search engine, first ever to use
a search box! derpoogle.co!
mircea_popescu: benkay i suppose it depends
a lot on where you live etc
benkay: know how much you want to buy, have it in
a moneypak.
benkay: otc is not really
a pain in the ass.
mircea_popescu: which are water for the locals, on the basis of the practicality that w/o water your le is
a day.
mike_c: there is
a practicality here. i can actually buy bitcoin with coinbase (with no $$ balance). there are extremely limited other ways for me to do that.
mircea_popescu: Coinbase IS EXACTLY
a random website made in
a basement. So is AirBnB. So is everying else YC backed. Get over yourselves, lay down the pipe, you're
a laughingstock for
a reason.
mircea_popescu: "The last "isn't some random website made in
a basement" case was NeoBee. There were bunch of others before that, exactly similar.
benkay: "The steal-all-your-money rate of bitcoin businesses is running right around 100%, and you're going to lecture people that "they can only ever lose
a small portion of all stored user funds"? Really?"
mircea_popescu: "Coinbase isn't some random website made in
a basement. It's
a well funded, YC backed, known-founder company that complies with relevant banking law. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that they hold
a partial reserve or have any ill intention whatsoever."
mike_c: can he say broken windows
a few more times? he doesn't sound dumb enough yet.
kakobrekla: if you want
a subpage, you can use nest it
kakobrekla: if you want to create
a new page on top of the dir, just visit the url you wanna create
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves also there is
a playground page to play around with
VanCleef: herp has got
a bit of
a hardon for u
mircea_popescu: btctalk post had some good ideas/sturcture but not really
a full and complete "why wot" thing
ThickAsThieves:
a buncha
a links is only arguably better than 'go read the log'
bounce: and what's that old fashioned thing with dashes? these days you are supposed to sprinkle apostrophes across your prose just in case you missed
a spot, but no dashes
ThickAsThieves: anyone know
a good article explaining WHY the WoT is good, something to convince
a noob
bounce: no no no it was clearly rapturous applause before
a thunderous crowd
mike_c: i mean, either demo-ed before
a rapturous audience
ThickAsThieves: "Bear in mind that we’re almost
a full year away and things may well change.
A definitive schedule will be published late March 2014."
mike_c: first: bug in the snsa report :D "demo-ed before
a rapturous applause"
Mats_cd03: mp has
a powerful effect on people
ThickAsThieves: i still think having the shares "listed" isnt
a good path
benkay: as designed, sure, not really
a good idea to set people up to do
a runner.
benkay: well this is
a design of exchange thing
mike_c: they are contracted to maintain
a % of ownership
benkay: mircea_popescu: list all shares on mpex. divs can only be paid to full float. remove
a source of pebkac errors.
mike_c: what's
a wiki with no manuls?
kakobrekla: moiety at this point,
a lot of flash, i think.
kakobrekla: perhaps wait
a few more hrs with that advice.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you're new here. why not read the logs for
a while and ask q after ?
mike_c: yeah.. it is not really accurate to call it
a nz0 given how many assets it has :)
mircea_popescu: mike_c half tempted to move bitbet on
a nz0 basis tbh.