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wywialm: well, socialism sometimes vs socialism always is a difference even in principle and not only in quantity - the market is still the default in keynesianism
dexx: > they used a blow torch to try to cut open the bomb
mircea_popescu: seems a distinction without a difference.
VanCleef: maybe a couple
MisterE: What do you do when you work at a scrapyard and someone brings in an unexploded WW2 bomb?
VanCleef: ima make a lil list of the last 2 years anyway
VanCleef: might take a while heh
bounce: seems to me a bit of a mistaking the road for the horse
bounce: ``Now, whilst some might welcome the reduction in the state caused by a loss of taxation, the state is THE key economic driver of innovation, prosperity and social mobility.'' -- this widely accepted in economists' circles?
mircea_popescu: VanCleef: someone should make a list of all the fails this year << not such a bad idea. http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/ only goes june 2011-dec 2012. there's all of 2013 to cover, plus a chunk of 2014
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: but i'm not about to buy a coin off some random noob with no trust ;p <<< ajaahaha the moment we've all been waioting for. nubsy baby, maybe buy it FOR ATC ?!?!?!?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: it is always one thing to read a philosophical bit, and another to taste it on one's sorry skin << do tell ?
Neil: Something I'd wanted to know for a long time; now I can produce this easily: http://pastebin.com/7QSb6ypA
mircea_popescu: zacm: so this is disconcerting to see the lemmings on bitcointalk cheer on us gov action against mpex people. bitcoin community must be eagerly anticipating govcoin i guess << i wouldn't read too much into the derpage of a coupla tards tbh.
BingoBoingo: Pirate disappeared a quarter million BTC, TradeFortress disappeared 4000, Danny disappeared 1200. Soon we will get down to a single BTC being a newsworthy heist
BingoBoingo: Eh, it seems by his retelling he could only disappear a quarter of what inputs.io disappeared. Progress-ish
antephialtic: were a white knight to save them, all the existing shareholders would get wiped out anyways
VanCleef: someone should make a list of all the fails this year
VanCleef: but yeh i hope MP books a flight to russia soon
BingoBoingo: This is the problem that happens when Facebook is allowed to IPO and a shitty Facebook game is allow to IPO soon after
peterl: I just started a new thread for people to continue the discussion. I doubt, however, that he will answer in it.
benkay: "In several cases my changes take the form of a Turing-complete program that dynamically modifies the upstream source code in several attempts until it passes tests. I’m not kidding."
Mats_cd03: and i just noticed it embedded a link from gist
benkay: that's a rating
random_cat isn't a huge fan of lucky lab's beers
benkay: a bar
Mats_cd03: i can do that on a beach while getting rimmed by a thai prostitute
Mats_cd03: i figure if btc goes up in ten years or less i can retire to a beach in asia
stompysteve: what does he have a fake family now too lol
stompysteve: you would think someone would have maybe made like a half ass statement or something by now
VanCleef: maybe he really is in a coma
asciilifeform: yeah - but the new turd craps out a blob rsa'd to square's public key.
MisterE: A/V cables*
MisterE: or A/V/cables
nubbins`: wellllll, still a tip-two ring-sleeve jack
asciilifeform: (original 'square' reader was usable by any machine that had a 3.5mm headphone jack)
nubbins`: suppose you could make one out of an old tape recorder and a few lines of objective-c
MisterE: pretty good side by side comparison, obviously the old model is just a magnetic head
nubbins`: that really is a crypto-turd
nubbins`: MisterE yep, turn a tablet into a PoS
MisterE: just what stores with a rack of 8 readers need, another one
asciilifeform: just so people couldn't use it as a generic magstripe reader.
nubbins`: ah hey, Square gives you a free card reader when you sign up for an account
nubbins`: bullion is a nice hedge
nubbins`: MisterE: it's a real thing, imagine ;D
nubbins`: but yes, at the time he stopped, he no doubt had a massive pile of btc
nubbins`: depends, maybe a hundred bucks for a brass
kakobrekla: should make a special btc logo featured turdtwister
nubbins`: i wouldn't pay a satoshi over 15
nubbins`: joecool i've seen rubes offering upwards of 25btc, but this is a guaranteed loss.
Ken`: will mtgox yubikeys ever become a collector's item?
nubbins`: percentage over face isn't a great way to price them, it's better to think in terms of absolute value over face
dexX7_: re: mpoe-pr ban ... was this an april fools joke? i don't see any sign of a ban
joecool: on those coins? they hold a nice premium
mike_c: those things are such a crapshoot. you have to trust the whole chain of people who have ever touched it.
nubbins`: but i'm not about to buy a coin off some random noob with no trust ;p
nubbins`: "I've been reconsidering my finances and I'm not sure I am in a position to hold on to this collectors item"
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i wonder if anyone would buy a casascius coin that i've touched, after what i said about them
nubbins`: heh, a guy i sold a casascius coin to has decided he really can't afford it and is wondering if i'll buy it back from him
Mats_cd03: a tsunami is coming towards your home
KRS-One: If anyone spots a tsunami lemme know.
nubbins`: ^ early draft of a poster we're working on
MisterE: so a comment is not allowed being that the world and this chanel doesn't revolve around your time zone?
MisterE: I live in a box too
asciilifeform will soon have finished 7th year in a 30 m^2 flat.
asciilifeform: it is always one thing to read a philosophical bit, and another to taste it on one's sorry skin
BingoBoingo: At least I didn't try translating the thing to a LISP first
BingoBoingo: Well, there's programing, programming well, copypasta, and then just being a dick to a REPL prompt
BingoBoingo: Well, the history of ventures without MP as a coauthor on MPEx hasn't been spectacular with X.EUR's fate undetermined as of yet. Maybe davout should be included in the asked as well.
kakobrekla: more of a FOG than COG
BingoBoingo: blurden: She did PR work for mircea_popescu on the forum. And was banned yesterday. Only real ourcomes is the forum is nao shittier and MPEx loses a recurring expense.
benkay: all that cortisol's gotta hurt after a while
benkay: she needs a break anyways
kakobrekla: do you have a handle?
kakobrekla: ;;rate turbo_ac100 1 did a firefox plugin for bitbet
turbo_ac100: second to last line there is a 'template=' part pointing to mycroft that *shouldn't* be needed since you can't use the template anyway
kakobrekla: a yea
turbo_ac100: my bad. Just a second
turbo_ac100: The "template" part should be axed. The mail address used was a meltmail.
benkay: but it sounds a little defocused.
benkay: think about it for a while
tg2: you're asking how a situation like that could have been mitigated by sucha trust organization?
benkay: almost a mil.
tg2: really a 3rd party
tg2: like a hybrid ISO and compliance board
tg2: sort of like a whoisguard but that holds the parties behind it responsible and sets up audit procedures and processes they have to follow
tg2: I think there is a need for this kind of liability secured "trust"
mike_c: we need a trusted auditing company like Arthur Anderson
HeySteve: working on a Proof of Trust coin. the Web of Trust has been an inspiration
tg2: it allows exchanges to prove to a certain degree of trust that that they are solvent without having to show their cold wallets to everybody
benkay: seems a bit premature. there's barely anyone to trust in the first place, much less people in whom one can trust instead of actually trusting your counterparty.
neilol: yeah dignork you're right. I'm thinking something like a KPMG or Deloitte would do
tg2: a hybrid bond/certification system
turbo_ac100: There is a working bitbet search plugin on mycroft now (no ref :P). The 2nd hit is the right one. For it to make sense it should be made auto-discoverable though. Like so https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Creating_OpenSearch_plugins_for_Firefox#Autodiscovery_of_search_plugins
neilol: its definitely a business
tg2: maybe not like insurance, but instead a certification
benkay: well given that 99% of 'bitcoin companies' are barely concealed scams, the thing doesn't fly unless you can point at a potential customer that's not a scam.
dexX7: and reddit rumors mentioned a "big player"
tg2: any companies, they companies would pay the insurance as a sign of faith against insolvency
dexX7: well, there are afaik a few who want to open an insurance serivce.. even this twobitsidiot