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mircea_popescu: punkman incidentally, why not make yourself a career out of this ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety localbitcoins had some technology-enthusiastic policemen pull some "sting operations", which were kinda lulzy in their braindead stupidity but probably spelled out actual financial and emotional pain for the unfortunate parties to get involved in the bureaucracy's quest to justify its continued existence. i imagine it's gone as a result.
mircea_popescu: punkman are you like on a special list or something ? where do you find all this stuff ?
chetty: is that forum page a guy talking to himself? sure sounds like it
truffles: "This man is clearly a bit unhinged. He has no sense of objective reality" hehe
mircea_popescu: it's a bizarre collection, that forum.
truffles: its prob a mindfield of them though
keonne: superfluous 'a' in the second paragraph after 'inept'
truffles: called a mod a pussy or something
bounce: actually, more like the other way around: management fundamentally deals with people so scientific method has a hard time with it, but moreover too many in management don't even try
moiety hopes that wasnt a ragequit
moiety: mmhmm especially if you made a big move recently
keonne: and i doubt there are a lot of keonnes around
moiety: keonne: you dont like boats a lot by any chance do you? perhaps wrong keonne, sorry if so
jurov: You will be much happier person if you just sit on your dick for a year before fucking.
Apocalyptic: a good movie btw
BingoBoingo: keonne: You will be a much happier person if you just lurk for a year before "investing"
punkman: something like they had a USD goal, they converted to BTC, got 0.0075
keonne: I have a feeling its gonna drop, i dont know where they came up with this 0.0075 price from, their asses it seems
keonne: Please tell me thas a joke...
BingoBoingo: Why the fuck is everyone named Christian such a fucking Cho-Mo
BingoBoingo: random_cat: Greed is good, greed is a useful angle of analysis, but but what is greed compared to Putang?
truffles: i thought btc crowd was a lil smarter than gen pop..
chetty: a catalog of classic scams ..who is helped most the scammers or the scammees
truffles: well if im in a crowd my 1st thoughts are "do i have any cash on hand, oh no worries"
bocobit: a nail left exposed gets hammered down
truffles: still special (not in a retard way)
truffles: whomever has that job must be a loser heh
bocobit: I feel this pressure everytime I am in a large crowd
truffles: as a rebel without a cause id go anarchy way
truffles: one need not look further than a forum or chatroom to see that power corrupts
mircea_popescu: it's usually given as a textbook example of anti-intelectualism in the us.
bocobit: there are a lot of parallels with all the new start ups in bitcoin world
truffles: sounds like something a lesser man writes :D
mircea_popescu: maybe it can be financed through a forum ipo
decimation: what would such a mission be expected to yeild? knowledge?
truffles: if i were a con sure
bocobit: would you sign up knowing its a one way trip?
truffles: nepotism is a great trade
mircea_popescu: i personally think a grown man should possess a working knowledge of both fields, at least enough to make him conversant in either.
mircea_popescu: in a sense, if one finds himself bored in the laser lab and looking at the stars, one should switch from solid state to large body physics
mircea_popescu: not a matter of "worthy" see ?
mircea_popescu: yes, this is true. but they are not managers, they're not the sort of people who play the resource allocation game. thus they have no business handling money as a % of total supply.
mircea_popescu: what other effects would you expect, except for rents being in the 20mn a month range ?
mircea_popescu: suppose tomorrow the agreement was that no engineer working in sv is paid under 350mn dollars a year.
decimation: that's apparently a special feature of his "exchange"
MisterE: for being socially aware and having great control over our environment we are a pretty rotten bunch of animals
MisterE: truffles: I would just request a flame thrower
truffles: id sign up to fight in a zombie apocalypse situation for sure
asciilifeform: there are intangibles. quite a few people would - pay - to fight in a war.
MisterE: unless they can work for a private contractor
truffles: one of u painted vets as having a rosy time of it, not the reality for most afaik
MisterE: one trumped up conflict between now and passing of a budget and that is all out the window
asciilifeform: decimation: add a zero or two.
decimation: assuming you lack a competent technician, it would probably be $1000's
asciilifeform: what do you suppose it would cost to build your pc by hand, in a quantity of five?
asciilifeform: everyone loves the $500 hammer. but how many people who laugh at the hammer have ever built a one-off prototype of anything?
MisterE: this is only a proposed budget
decimation: "The Pentagon is also mounting a new attempt to cut travel costs. Specifically, that effort will reduce per diem rates for troops on extended travel. It will also eliminate reimbursements for laundry services, bottled water and other ?incidental? expenses. Officials could not immediately provide details of the new per diem rates."
MisterE: can barely stop QE without blood all over the floor it's a shaky house of cards
truffles: sure u can have a pure heart going in
asciilifeform: he's essentially a more physically-fit version of the palo alto programmer
asciilifeform: not sure in what sense a fellow who gets to not only do work which he doesn't necessarily feel like doing, but also get sent off as cannon fodder - can be thought of as 'rich'
decimation: with the possibility of converting to a well-paid contract position upon 20 years of "service"
decimation: 27 year old with a wife gets $2800 tax-free per month
decimation: in my experience the rich around the DC area are mostly military http://usmilitary.about.com/od/2013BHA/a/13bahwdepofDC.htm
kanzure: they actually make out ok depending on whether or not they dump it all into a corvette
kanzure: is that a threat
truffles: not that id sign up for a job of u know e.g. killing ppl
asciilifeform: likewise, one man's 300k may buy a palace (in costa rica), another's - a converted garage in palo alto
asciilifeform: poorer than a beggar, in some cases
asciilifeform: in the sense that if you have to live in a particular place, or worse, become a certain kind of person, to earn it, you are in fact very poor
asciilifeform: 'I wouldn't be willing to develop in javascript for $300k' << this goes back to the original point i was trying to make, when i mentioned hunting for flat (i generally don't discuss crap like this without a good reason) -
decimation: that's why I'm a zero I guess
decimation: note, that this isn't exactly a 40 year career plan
decimation: but I don't think that is a large population
decimation: I think it's true that a "web of trust" of competent individuals act as hired guns to do jobs for govt/corps
asciilifeform: a much smaller set actually provides $maxint of value
asciilifeform: i've yet to see a living case of this that wasn't in the 'pay 250 to live in range of the 300' territory.
kanzure: now excuse me i must go cry over a shitty xml parser http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/p2pfoundation/dumpspot/pullparser.py
kanzure: not-highly-unique but really as soon as you know more than a handful of things, you're already likely something that doesn't exist somewhee else in aggregate
kanzure: where their open source projects, blogs, conference talks/videos, whatever, serves as a way of directing traffic to them
kanzure: knowing even just a little bit of programming puts you beyond the hope of most job sites
kanzure: alas, on one of my recent gigs i somehow ended up traveling for a week every few months.. it was trickery. :(
decimation: my "experience" is quite full of people who are apparently quite intelligent and are unable to demand such a rate
asciilifeform: kanzure: if you're the kind of hero who can demand 300k without ever having to physically meet a client, attend a whatever board, deliver physical samples in person, etc - more power to you
asciilifeform: hard to think of a better 'iq test'
kanzure: haha you are a zero?
asciilifeform: engineers, typically, sit in 'gravity wells' - because so long as you are bound to some geographic location, even a very large one, the folks with the shears come out ☟︎
asciilifeform: except in the wonderful case described earlier, where a chumper pays $250k to live near 300k job
kanzure: i was not a "vp"
asciilifeform: 300k is, afaik, always a case of 'wrote'
asciilifeform: 300k vice president of widgets inc. is not a member of the same profession as his engineer.
decimation: okay, let's pretend that 15 year veterans are all making $300k - when a reasonable home is $1 mil, they are still pretty poor
decimation: no, he's effectively a wage slave
asciilifeform: incidentally, we are close to a useful definition of 'rich' - fellow is 'rich' if he can tell the man with the shears to go to hell, and make it stick.
kanzure: so anyone with an ounce of experience is making.. a lot more. :)
asciilifeform: 100k won't buy you a garret to starve in, there.
moiety: a lot of people seem to have turned their attention to canada thesedays
asciilifeform: like a gravitational 'well'