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fluffypony: benkay: I thought it was a ponzi scheme?
benkay: bitcoin's a scam
fluffypony: yeah just took a nose dive down
truffles: he'll have a great time let him go
danielpbarron: or you're a terrorist
danielpbarron: well i've seen plenty of individuals storing data in other ways, like using the last 4 or 5 decimal places of a balance to encode data
dexX7: you don't need to hold everything in memory, but there is a database with all unspent outputs. more outputs = delayed lookup
kanzure: the counterparty reference implementation requires a full bitcoin node with -txindex enabled
benkay: so you can't possibly be telling me that a full node needs to hold the whole bc in memory to do its job
kanzure: to be even more pedantic, counterparty isn't a colored coin implementation
danielpbarron: well, I'm not 100% behind the DEX; I understand the arguments against it, and it's not the end of my world if the devs figure out a way to stop it
danielpbarron: s.dice was a scam?
thestringpuller: s.dice was teh closest thing to a scam no mpex...
thestringpuller: i feel a decentralized exchange would be littered with scams
danielpbarron: i'm on the side of counterparty if I had to choose, i think the decentralized exchange is a great idea
benkay: start with a counterparty txn. is this thing in flight or has it confirmed?
benkay: let's tell a little story and try to work through this
danielpbarron: i might be explaining some technical details incorrectly; i'm not a dev
benkay: so take a counterparty transaction
benkay: when do they need that? when validating a new block?
danielpbarron: hard drive space is only an issue to those trying to take a principled stand on not storing content to which they personally object
jurov: i don't mind a terabyte per month,too but 10TB or more... um
benkay: blockchain's a nightmare anyways
danielpbarron: OP_RETURN is a place to store extra data in a transaction
pankkake: storage is a cost, and no one's rewarded for storing
danielpbarron: what? which dev is also a miner?
danielpbarron: they sorta do, or at least, they do when they are also a dev
benkay: "powerful"'s a good start.
danielpbarron: what's the most influential group of bitcoiners? the devs, the miners, or whatever you call the individuals who own a lot of BTC
danielpbarron: pankkake: sorta, I backed my asset with a currency from a video game
pLambert: BitVPS is a hosting company
danielpbarron: pLambert: is this a mining company?
danielpbarron: ty, fluffypony; I've got the market cap up to a record breaking 0.52 XCP
danielpbarron: Mats_cd03: I don't mind it costing a lot, but it's insulting to say that using aliminum costs 2 BTC more than using plastic
Mats_cd03: 3btc is just a ridiculous cost imo
pLambert: has BitVPS buyout been discussed here yet? A big FU to all the shareholders
danielpbarron: "give us BTC today and maybe we'll ship you a product next year"
danielpbarron: yeah it makes me suspicious when everyone is hyping it up and it's still on pre-order; sounds a lot like BFL
danielpbarron: otherwise, I don't think I can trust that little thing to make a secure enough seed
danielpbarron: from what I understand, a lot of the cardano research is getting the right hardware RNG; is trezor up to the same standard?
gribble: You rated user rg on Wed Feb 26 10:45:04 2014, with a rating of -2, and supplied these additional notes: tried to stiff me on payment for some design work.
danielpbarron: "yes. a launch. we have a coin, a website, a twitter, facebook, g+ profile, a windows wallet, no real concept and of course no innovation. everything you need for a great coin. this coin has muy potentialones."
danielpbarron: a stupid altcoin, but i think the OP is trolling
danielpbarron: "please learn to read. this coin is about raising awareness for rap music and rap victims. it's not about promoting rap. why would anyone do this? you're a sick person."
nubbins`: wait a minute, i know why i'm so bleary
nubbins`: sounds like a win-win-win
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: inexplainably is, inexplicably, not a word
thestringpuller: from trilema: MPEx webservers will have to keep a copy of the database. This is practically unavoidable (I think) because of two things : you.d like to be able to issue account statements for customers when they want, rather than when you get around to itviii and you.d like to pipe trade data into other services (like twitter, assbot on #bitcoin-assets etc).
mircea_popescu: yes, but those aren't the people that never woke up with a timer in their life.
mircea_popescu: MisterE guy is definitely lying. had he made that reddit post BEFORE having tried to steal the data rather than as a coverup afterthought, all'd hgave been well.
truffles: so ure a morning person eh
mircea_popescu: keonne: #bitcoin-assets is like a second job << first job for most people here.
mircea_popescu: cazalla the life of the p t barnum promoter of roadside attractions is a precarious one.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: wrt not taking it seriously - not sure about other countries, but we have a new (2009) act here that says that a director will be liable for losses suffered by the company as a result of the director having taken or failed to act against certain unauthorised or unlawful actions and situations
mircea_popescu: mike_c: for instance, mp has a bunch of coins. they are not supply because they are not for sale. << they are supply even if they are not for sale. review Wickard v. Filburn :D
mircea_popescu: jborkl: We know how many btc there will be next year << he has it, btc supply is extremely well know. the function that stabilises the dishing out of btc over time has been EXTREMELY efficient so far, in spite of massive hashpower changes. i would say btc supply side is the best known of any material in history. including gold, which used to hold that distinction (which was a key to its monetization)
bounce: no definite answer, but a few possibilities: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/10/pgp_email_leak_mystery_snowden_greenwald/
mircea_popescu: or on the other extreme patrick harnetts and other herps figuring "oh, it's jsut a small little thing, i'm much bigger than it so should be ok"
mircea_popescu: pigeons in a meta-sense, everyone that fucked up so far has been fucked by the same thing : failure to take btc seriously enough. be it the derps that still don't have any, harping about how it's just a fad and quoting tired beanie babies examples,
dexX7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92279.0 "not a scam but failed business"
truffles: not surprised he's not a reputable guy
truffles: "Coinabul has been ripping people off for a while." shit no wonder he can drop 1k a game
truffles: so then i in #bitcoin i was like "why are u such a bitch" i think im banned there too
fluffypony: dub: it would be - its a scammer scamming the scamhunters :-P
MisterE: If you didn't already need a reason to DROP Dropbox: http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/09/condoleezza-rice-joins-dropboxs-board/
keonne: 18:44:21 asciilifeform: there was a great soviet cartoon about a kid who hates history class and then gets a time machine
MisterE: oh, either way someone loses a trailer...
MisterE: indeed and back when I was a kid there was so much coke
keonne: most of Florida is trailer city, bad move really considering there is a yearly fucking hurricane season, geniuses
MisterE: oh, I was young then just lucky timing. But later I worked as a paramedic in the west for 3-years
keonne: that place is a pit
keonne: You seem like a smart guy, so i am assuming you left asap
keonne: mircea_popescu: <mike_c> yes, it's not like france where they just take your whole paycheck and give you a few dollars a week for coffee and cigarettes. << zing lmao. what you say nao pankkake ? huh ? huh ?
MisterE: got a GED
MisterE: keonne: I went to HS in Miami also lived in Tampa and the keys for a while
keonne: #bitcoin-assets is like a second job
fluffypony: I took a picture, will upload it in a bit
fluffypony: a lot of people think that mIRC *is* IRC
[\]: it wasn't a fucking invite
[\]: I wanted to introduce him to a bunch of new friends
fluffypony: it's just a gift to them for fun that they may or may not be able to use one day
fluffypony: there's a 2 factor authentication thing
cazalla: but how do you know they don't keep a copy of the private key?
MisterE: I promptly got a PM asking me what this high tech investment analysis was
MisterE: I once made a retarded comment about "double inverted helix head & shoulders formation at the 3rd Fibonacci band formed" in trollbox
MisterE: troll the btce trollbox for a while :)
MisterE: maybe once a day
MisterE: I dont usually trade multiple times in a day
benkay: market consists of a few people trading over tin can telephones
benkay: but voof. buffers? in my face? all the time? surely this is not a good use of my brain.
benkay: been talking a lot lately about bsd
mikaeldice: I think Ubuntu 14.04 will be the first if you don't want to pull a bleeding edge build for it
mikaeldice: My lenovo yoga has a 3200x1800 display on 13", which most Linux distros look ridiculous on currently.. Good news is that a lot of the work is already done, just waiting to be included in distro repositories
nubbins`: ah, then you get a pass
nubbins`: that's not the same as buying a linux laptop
Duffer1: i can buy a laptop and install linux over whatever it comes with
cazalla: he also ran a conference where last year he said the winklevoss twins were book, months pass and it was the winklevoss twins are a maybe, then it's deleted from the website and the headliner was jeffrey tucker instead lol
cazalla: yeah, seems there is a disproportionate amount of bitcoin scammers from here
nubbins`: i gotta say, i liked australia a lot more as a kid
benkay: there's a certain symmetry to this one: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22ny8h/agricultural_bank_of_china_freezes_bitcoin/cgoohv9