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mircea_popescu: cazalla that's been dead for a while.
fluffypony: and then they announce a new SSL cert, wtf
cazalla: sat there, fuck i need a coffee
bounce: a Science Derpist
fluffypony: akstunt600: also we need a Derp Scientist
bounce: "higher than a bargaining businessman would-be buyer would bid", then.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: do they use a jury for financial stuff as well??? geeze...:/
bounce: oh to start a company and requiring all titles to have "derp" in them somewhere.
akstunt600: I dug that up to a while a go and was liek WTF
mircea_popescu: there's a reason why noobs never succeed with these.
mircea_popescu: bounce you need to either pay upfront more than the judge evaluates the assets could conceivably fetch, or else execute a credible plan to deliver. and since this is examined by jurists rather than business people (and let alone forum fucktards) the estimates tend to be quite conservative.
fluffypony: from now on I'm going to tell people I"m a former child actor-turned technology entrepreneur
jurov: The investor group, which includes Brock Pierce, a former child actor-turned technology entrepreneur,
jurov: i want to see a bank that'll dare to manage New Gox's acct
mircea_popescu: they never actually had a lump of money they didn't owe someone.
fluffypony: they should have done it as a coin
mircea_popescu: this is something you can maybe carry on for a while, but if you're trying to it's a damned good idea not to annoy me as a side dish.
mircea_popescu: then they ran at a loss for all of 2012, piling more and more angel round money into a hole.
mircea_popescu: he proceeded to buy some failed polish exchange, which was over its history a loss,
akstunt600: what did you expect they were a magic the gathering trading site
mircea_popescu: 1. it was created by jeb mccaleb, the douche that recently fucked up kraken, and some other derps, on a shoestring.
mircea_popescu: people don't quite grasp how bad a business mtgox was on a cashflow basis.
fluffypony: and if someone can give me a scalp massage
benkay: davout mircea_popescu x.eur has delivery performed by delivery of cash to a bitcoin-central account, right?
fluffypony: what boggles my mind is that they (mtgox) were liquid enough to pay someone to rewrite everything in a less-crap way, and to permanently employ a bunch of CISSPs (at the very least)
akstunt600: he is too much of a pussy for all that
bounce next develops a calculus of (whatever the term is for the state of being ignored)
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, that is a good policy.
MGK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile PM me if youre interested in a MS65 1BTC coin
benkay: how does a stat get signed then?
benkay: do they then have a copy of the mpex keys as well? for the signing of stats etc?
benkay: hey mircea_popescu i think i'm misreading your mpex tech stuff article - web servers have a copy of the db to fulfill stat requests?
gribble: Error: "canned" is not a valid command.
fluffypony: 14 years is a long time ago
gribble: Error: "derpage" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "manul" is not a valid command.
MGK: sorry Im doing a few things
mike_c: what? it's a kitten with a laser. no biggie.
gribble: Error: "monorailcat" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "nailgun" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "railgun" is not a valid command.
MGK: Anyone interested in a graded MS65 1BTC casasius coin? Asking 1.5btc.
bounce: borland turbo C also had a similar "basm" thingy, so no need to fsck around with hexstrings. tp was just the thing we used because it was easy to use. indeed, easier than tc.
asciilifeform: a fun diversion, for those innocent of such matters:
mircea_popescu: before "antivirus" was a thing
dignork: bounce, there was a debug.exe just to write .COM, i think it was still supplied in winXP
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you want the compiler to asm for you, vs. having to drop in a hex string and function ptr to it, compiler has to understand inline asm.
bounce: and can relatively simply be put on a 360k floppy; just drop the bgi stuff from the std lib collection. compiler, stdlib, 3rd party editor. off you go. that just doesn't work so well with C.
mircea_popescu: you can just put it in a pointer and... execute it.
bounce: borland turbo pascal was a great step-up to asm because it was easy to get going with --also nicely light-weight compared to C!-- and made inline asm ridiculously easy.
fluffypony: dignork: before that list I used a Peter Norton programming guide that had an interrupt table
dignork: ew, I remember writing TSR programs in TP+asm, it was a horrible junk
asciilifeform: fluffypony: me. i still consult 'swag' for algos, once in a blue moon.
robwhiz22: sorry, I received a phone call and was disconnected without noticing.
jurov: what problem? 386 can run a nifty logic game with interpreter
mircea_popescu: actually it was a while until they had the first optimizing compiler working
joecool: finally a new block
daybyter: fluffypony: I started a rewrite of that game in javascript to use it for coin gaming.
jurov: if there was a cool DOS game built on lisp
Diablo-D3: but yeah, qbasic had a scortched earth clone
Diablo-D3: quickbasic uses a more powerful version of that editor
asciilifeform: phun phact. msdos 'edit' is actually 'qbasic', with the basic ineptly commented out - in such a way that the code is still buried in the binary. ☟︎
bounce: did get a forth from somebody, but without a good book it was hard to get started with it
[\]: I still remember seeing a=a+1 for the first time
bounce: back when, no ubiquitous 'net, not even a modem, and no connections to extoll the virtues of lisp
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's not pulling a bitcoinica, that's pulling a washingtonica.
asciilifeform: there's a unique species of crackpot - the kind with actual power
asciilifeform: (ran off with taxpayer-funded 'macsyma' and hired some people to write a gui)
asciilifeform: it is worth noting that herr w. created his flagship product by 'pulling a bitcoinica'
mircea_popescu: "This brings me to the core of what I dislike about Wolfram's book. It is going to set the field back by years. On the one hand, scientists in other fields are going to think we're all crackpots like him. On the other hand, we're going to be deluged, again, with people who fall for this kind of nonsense. I expect to have to waste a lot of time in the next few years de-programming students who'll have read A New Kind of
fluffypony: asciilifeform: the seed is a digital breathalyser...works best when you're drunk;)
robwhiz22: jurov, is there a write-up somewhere?
mircea_popescu: he's like Julia A. Moore but forscience.
gribble: Wilbur Glenn Voliva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilbur_Glenn_Voliva>; Wilbur Glenn Voliva visits New Orleans, Louisiana in 1912 ...: <http://louisdl.louislibraries.org/cdm/ref/collection/LWP/id/7330>; $5,000 for Proving the Earth is a Globe | Modern Mechanix: <http://blog.modernmechanix.com/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/>
asciilifeform: as if an rng were a nuke, or any other rarity
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, are you working on an RNG project? Do you have a link?
bounce: no, he is a dog. this is the internets.
jurov: or a pig... there's actually a book about that
bounce: 966 lines. looks like a bit of a waste.
mircea_popescu: the guy does declare he's trained as a phys, so i guess rank cluelessness about math may be excused
mircea_popescu: "My teacher, more patient than I would be with adolescent arrogance, gently informed me that it was a standard technique, in any book on linear algebra, called "reduction to Jordan normal form", after the man who discovered it in the 1800s. "
mircea_popescu: must be cool to run a search engine that consists of promoting your friends.
mircea_popescu: also, google does not return the wayback machine for a "web history" query.
ozbot: Stephen Wolfram, A New Kind of Science
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I've just clicked 'forward all' and reforwarded you my proposal and follow-up email. Please check the mail and I would very much appreciate a response. I feel I've given adequate time for your consideration.
asciilifeform: but that was a while ago.
gribble: Stephen Wolfram, A New Kind of Science: <http://www.cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/reviews/wolfram/>; Ten Years of Monster Raving Egomania and Utter Batshit Insanity: <http://vserver1.cscs.lsa.umich.edu/~crshalizi/weblog/915.html>; Collection of Reviews of Wolfram's A New Kind of Science, Etc...: <http://www.math.usf.edu/~eclark/ANKOS_reviews.html>
asciilifeform: bounce: well there was (still is...) a wealthy american crackpot who claimed cellular automata as his invention, suing anyone who publicly disagreed
bounce: re reinventing the wheel, wasn't there a medico recently that got a paper published essentially reinventing calculus (and naming it after himself, naturally)?
mircea_popescu: coined by a blogger, in this post : http://www.jeg.ro/dupa-monitoru-gri-stam-noi-anonimitatea/
bounce: robwhiz22: the best way for you to stop running around in circles is stop running around in circles. drop the text in a pastebin and share. you have permission to do this already.
asciilifeform: 'The "Elusive Joe" (Russian: Неуловимый Джо) has become an ironic nickname in Russia for various difficult-to-find persons (not necessarily unimportant ones). It is suggested that the nickname and the joke originated from a 1923 satirical novel An Elusive Enemy. American Novel by Mikhail Kozyrev (ru:Козырев, Михаил Яковлевич) which contained a funny song about a Joe who was e
bounce: anyhow, I'll gladly concede this since my interest is in a different point.
bounce: but the cake is a lie.
mircea_popescu: the top of a cake and the top of an oil tank aren't similar on grounds of topness.
mircea_popescu: this does not make much of a similarity.
fluffypony: for eg. Cape Town now has a higher murder rate than Johannesburg
fluffypony: we're a small part of the population (relatively), and a lot of the murders are gang related
bounce: the student club had a rule that you couldn't actually lie. ie answers must be truthful. but you could refuse to answer on grounds of the question being too direct. add in some rules that made buying the entire bar population beers both very easy to do and hard to figure out for the barman... well, it's a student club, whaddaya expect?