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gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
TomServo: signed with a weak key, last I saw.
ThickAsThieves: lol, you have to actually tick a box on the opt out page https://www.att.com/ecpnioptout/InitiateCPNIForm.action
benkay: (someone start a cell company!)
ThickAsThieves: but basically att not being in the wor, makes them a scammer
mircea_popescu: already good software is gpg based as a matter of course. so what if microsoft doesn't want to sign ?
ThickAsThieves: yeah, i think it's only a temporary problem
mircea_popescu: so now trust is created that's not wot-based. so in a sense old people are attacking the wot through being... stupid.
mircea_popescu: the problem here is that people interact with an entity calling itself at&t and using a non-gribble method of authing.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves lol i didn't click. i guess he's a slow reader.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony a naming system can be secure, memorable and global
mircea_popescu: (and the fact good names aren't being squatted to fuck amazes me, and it is a testament to the fundamental economic ineptitude of geeks)
ThickAsThieves: the chronicles didnt require a king to auth
ThickAsThieves: this seems to be a problem to me
mircea_popescu: the wot already has a massive zooke triangle problem
ThickAsThieves: she looks like she just had a nice fart
mircea_popescu: like a chronicle ?
mircea_popescu: i'm making urmom a better gazelle than the wot ever was, bish.
fluffypony: "I rated you a 2 on urmom gazelle"
mircea_popescu: the trouble is that wot is a horrible name, as it's not OF TRUST in the obvious sense, but in the other one. and it'd seem to discuss the actual web, rather than its notation.
mircea_popescu: tbh i was tempted to outright call it a wot.
ThickAsThieves: whether you want to twist a positive rating into being a punishment seems to me, another thing
ThickAsThieves: no definition of punishment i know would include a positive rating
ThickAsThieves: so maybe i reword to, any organized effort could benefit from a properly implemented economy
mircea_popescu: anyway, a "gazette" is this ancient term of "where all the matters of record are published"
mircea_popescu: so i put a note on a guy's "officer notesd" place that hey, you took all our x runes wtf
ThickAsThieves: for isn't a positive note possible? and useful?
mircea_popescu: i CREATED IT because we have an open guild bank where anyone can take out a stack, but you're not supposed to take out the WHOLE stack of things you can use 1-2 of
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if this could be applied to mmporg guilds, maybe your Rift guild is missing a punishment gazette
mircea_popescu: there's been a trend to economize welfare, and that just muddies up everything
ThickAsThieves: "It is important to bear in mind however that Bitcoin is merely a tool, that what we’re truly interested in is creating - for the first time in perhaps as long as two centuries - an actual, working economy"
ThickAsThieves: so, it's basic first use would be as a test
mircea_popescu: and generally, it's a knife. it allows to cleave reality and the problems of reality into easier to manage bits.
mircea_popescu: a corporation is like a personified feud. it can even lay dormant.
mircea_popescu: a more absolute gift of power could scarcely be devised. "even in hell, they with this staff wield power" sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the best thing you could possibly be doing with your time, not last on the list because even should it put you in prison, it will probably make you a ruler there, too.
mircea_popescu: and from unrelated news : "Nothing makes you more powerful inside the joint than a strong grounding in currency arbitrage."
mircea_popescu: then it's a fair contest.
mircea_popescu: fairness is not a guarantee of equal resuts, even if you promise equal effort.
mircea_popescu: a fair contest is a contest which does not distinguish between participants.
mircea_popescu: such as finite timespan, and a need to eat.
ThickAsThieves: maybe rephrased, would it be preferred to require currency in a barter
ThickAsThieves: well i did start by acknowledging it was not a MoE
mircea_popescu: what you prefer viewing things as tho is not a point of astronomy
mircea_popescu: so if it doesn't satisfy #2, it's not a medium of exchange
davout: a medium of exchange is just another economic good, one that is particularly liquid though
ThickAsThieves: thinking out loud, if something is not a medium of exchange,
ThickAsThieves: just when i was gonna take a break from reading
ozbot: A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/
davout: ;;rate mike_c 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also btcalpha <3
mircea_popescu: o look, coinbrazil has a mexico.
davout: ;;rate ThomasV 3 electrum, met IRL a few times
davout: ;;rate mike_c 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL
davout: ;;rate kakobrekla 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also Bit4x
davout: might as well do a little update round
Blazedout419: you guys know gribble has a chan that echos all ratings right?
davout: ;;rate asciilifeform 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, very knowledgeable about engineering and beagles
Blazedout419: [11:24am] <+gribble> Rating change | Old rating 3 | New rating: davout > 3 > jurov | this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR
Blazedout419: [11:24am] <+gribble> Rating change | Old rating 3 | New rating: davout > 3 > jurov | this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR
davout: ;;rate jurov 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR
davout: ;;rate jurov 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR
davout: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL
gribble: "Trading Sardines" - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28627.0>; Natural Gas In 2013: It's Now A Trading Sardine - Seeking Alpha: <http://seekingalpha.com/article/1091461-natural-gas-in-2013-its-now-a-trading-sardine>; "Sardines" are to Trade, not Eat | Gold Eagle: <http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/sardines-are-trade-not-eat>
ThickAsThieves: jurov:<davout> ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR <<< lol I'm not aware TAT took over coinbr :D /// Surprise!
ThickAsThieves: https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/04/22/thai-tea-firm-ichitan-injects-a-buzz-into-thailands-stock-market/?mod=WSJBlog
ThickAsThieves: might as well make a whole crest out of it
mircea_popescu: either that or a gaping asshole
ThickAsThieves: maybe #b-a logo could be a sword of Damocles with a halo at the bottom
jborkl: Ok, I read the website facts for Maidsafe and I feel dumb now. And if they are going to make a really bad pun they need a logo to go with it that makes you laugh
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: TONS, take a trip to South Africa and stop by, I'll provide the alcohol
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: very big q indeed. is being a "motion artist" like someone who takes jogs outside?
bitcoinpete: just had one of the guys in our meet-up group ask about maidsafe too. of course, a day after i blogged about it. just like he asked about bitgo a day after i blogged about that. noticing a pattern here
fluffypony sends bitcoinpete a coke
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: sure gimme a sec
mircea_popescu: Your search - @bitcoinpete @maidsafe @MSCProtocol any points you make get lost in what feels like a ... - did not match any documents.
fluffypony: what a whiney little girl
mircea_popescu: it's like maid to order. a pun.
fluffypony: "@bitcoinpete @maidsafe @MSCProtocol any points you make get lost in what feels like a trashy review of a summer movie. Be more constructive."
jborkl: I am going to sell my Mercedes and Bentley <-- what a asshole
mircea_popescu: they can get away with the pretense that they raise a lot of money.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i think i saw a pic. kinda bald fellow.
jborkl: Jesus christ, what a fucking retard
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: every time I see a video with him linked to on /r/bitcoin it just seems like a link to a TED talk, and I can't be bothered to watch TED talks
fluffypony: am I the only person who hasn't seen him speak / heard him interviewed / watched him in a video?
bitcoinpete: afaik andreas is fuckin broke and just scrapes by as a conference gypsy
fluffypony: in other words, operators may start off with good intentions, but when they suddenly realise they're sitting on a large pot of gold, are they still trustworthy?
fluffypony: so I pointed out that lending a buddy 200k Dogecoin today is worth a whopping $120, but Dogecoin's market cap is tiny ($44 mil as opposed to $6.2 bil), and would he trust his buddy to not run with those coins if they were worth $17 000?
fluffypony: I think it goes back to a discussion I had with someone the other day - he was espousing the values of the Dogecoin community, and how nice everyone is, and they don't have "scams like Bitcoin has"
ThickAsThieves: so, it would go that you might be better off investing in owning a dice site privately, than being a public investor via shares or a shared pot
ThickAsThieves: it's a service
ThickAsThieves: that's not a problem necessarily
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: so then what about a hot-wallet, lost roll amounts are sent to a cold-wallet, and the cold wallet is multi-sig, with a board of investors holding keys and the site operator holding keys. payouts happen once every 24 hours instead of immediately.
davout throws a branch of celery to ThickAsThieves to calm his anger
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: surely the solution should be that all rolls are on a single address, no change addresses?
Apocalyptic: or you end up with a thing that is neither one nor the other
chairman_meow: heh. so is there a solution to this?
fluffypony: lol, theymos getting called out on /r/bitcoin now - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23o0hs/an_rbitcoin_moderator_seems_to_be_a_wellknown/
asciilifeform: waiting for a bright fellow to make next step.
asciilifeform: why does your flat need both a toilet and kitchen sink?