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Naphex: is just a quick tought, idealy there would be some other mechanisms

fluffypony: why not suggest it as a BIP?

fluffypony: is there a standard for this?

BohemianHacks: Just running linux and a non-standard version of firefox makes things much safer

Naphex: but a better principle would be having a clean not infected with every crapware/spyware software possible

Naphex: as a precaution

fluffypony: "if I have to transfer my coins from CoinBase I do it 1 at a time...it might take a while, but at least you can catch it happening"

BohemianHacks: its always nice to store 37 cents in a 40 inch thick steel safe

fluffypony: but Electrum is solid for a hot wallet

fluffypony: BohemianHacks: this is for generating a Bitcoin address/private key from a passphrase

fluffypony: BohemianHacks: a simple-ish solution is Electrum; deterministic key (so you only have to scribble down 12 words and save them), and it's bip32 encrypted

BohemianHacks: I would like a single key and a cold storage wallet and then just not worry about it from there. So long as I have a safe place to store some

fluffypony: that's a good starting point :)

fluffypony: and a bunch of people bought

BohemianHacks: I have been working on a bunch of other projects and I am thinking my payments will largely be in coin

BohemianHacks: fluffypony: yeah fraud protection is a must

BohemianHacks: Naphex: that it does, which is a bit iffy as a tech company but they have some legit ideas

fluffypony: but if you want to plug some money into something and walk away and let it do its thing, mpex is a significantly safer option

fluffypony: BohemianHacks: also this is a good read - http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/

fluffypony: that sort of investment will most likely never be profitable from a BTC perspective

fluffypony: I think the biggest thing is that you have to make a distinction between a fiat-profitable company looking to raise fiat funds, but doing so in BTC for convenience

BohemianHacks: oh hey I used to have a minor rep with gribble

fluffypony: yeah mining hardware is flogging a dead horse

fluffypony: BohemianHacks: there's a voice model in here, blog post on it - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html

Naphex: gonna change it to a 12$ usd 1gb/s connection

Naphex: i think romania is a bit higher now:P

fluffypony: that makes me a sad panda

asciilifeform: generally, when making a few prototypes of something, simple tools suffice.

asciilifeform: a hot air tube is

decimation: sounds legit. so you have a hot air rework station too I presume?

decimation: so you get a little blob instead?

decimation: I used a syringe, but it got really messy

decimation: that usually implies some cleanup too, but if you have a well-made board with good mask and clean contacts you are usually okay (surface tension of liquid metal is miraculous)

decimation: supposedly it works, but it sounds a little hokey to me

asciilifeform: one day i'll actually get a hold of a greenarrays

decimation: basically you tack the qfn down and then use a really fine tipped soldering iron to "push" the solder in little grooves up under the chip

decimation: apparently it is popular to prototype the greenarrays chips on a "schmart board": http://www.schmartboard.com/

decimation: http://www.greenarraychips.com/home/documents/greg/WP002-100405-energycons.pdf Greenarrays has an app note: how to emulate a C machine on top of your asynchronous stack machines

decimation: ascii have you ever used 'qucs'? I played with it a little bit and found it to be pretty neat

decimation: there is a weird divorce in culture between EE's who build hardware and EE's who touch software

decimation: years ago I did some hand routing with orcad. It made me feel like a money trapped in a traveling salesman's trunk

decimation: benkay: don't forget that the lawyers get a big cut of the 100B

decimation: he had a blog for awhile but it appears it was taken over by scammers: https://web.archive.org/web/20120717073425/http://james-g.com/

BingoBoingo: The complexity of healthcare billing in the US adds a whole new layer of hell.

mircea_popescu: such a stupid name, too. where were all the branding experts ?

decimation: http://rwcg.wordpress.com/2014/04/23/corrective-glossary/ health care: any arrangement with a corporation in which you send money to them monthly and they sent you a brochure at the beginning, but may or may not pay you anything in return; e.g. ?With Obamacare at least I have health care?

mircea_popescu: if the us were a program, it'd be discarded as unmaintainable.

mircea_popescu: unless you can bring a bill of sale showing your eye is worth $100, you can't get $100 for your eye. and that's that.

ozbot: Eat recycled food for a happier healthier life --- (Judge Dredd movie) -watch stoned - YouTube

mircea_popescu: i actually talked it over with a couple of people over lunch. it's our considered opinion that the difference between the us and the ro health care systems can be distilled in one very simple point :

asciilifeform: in the words of a recent u.s. presidential candidate, 'don't impeach - impale.'

mircea_popescu: course, this may be a bitch for anyone trying to raise children or you know, live the life of X.

BingoBoingo: Who really wants to go to heaven if you have to live like a Saint while there?

mircea_popescu: generally, devils are a lot more fun than the pompous idiots cutting them free.

decimation: at the heart of the progressive religion is a great desire to cut loose the straps that bind the devil

decimation: in the US it is customary to make a house out of the cheapest materials available, on the smallest possible lot (to maximize the builder's profit)

mircea_popescu feels so nice and cozy in his nicely built brick housy. just like a piggy

mircea_popescu: why is grammar a lost art!

decimation: "But as the campaign has gained national popularity, its detractors have bristled at the effort, calling it a politically correct war on words that will stifle free speech and suggesting its true aim is to redefine terms to control public opinion and ? ultimately ? public policy."

pankkake: unless you have a font with a slashed zero…

asciilifeform: '1' is a phallic symbol! henceforth, only '0' is permitted.

asciilifeform: mr m & co got a few $mil from vc. i admit that i check back on these folks only in hope of being the first to see when they get sued by a 'diversity' werker for strong typing systems being sexist or whatnot.

mircea_popescu: "When people’s lives and careers are subject to litmus tests, and fired if they do not publicly renounce what may well be their sincere conviction, we have crossed a line. This is McCarthyism applied by civil actors. "

asciilifeform: at any rate, the hilariously funny bit about urbit is that mr. m wrote volumes condemning american academia, pseudo-mathematics in algorithmics, etc. - and then proceeded to crap out a widget emblematic of same.

decimation: that's a fair point

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a soviet variant, where the 'horned man', an old army officer, answers 'better to eat honey in company than - shit, by one's lonesome'

mircea_popescu: the old man is a little amused. "so what of it ? you think cunt is made of soap, to run out with use ?"

mircea_popescu: one day the rancher takes the old guy aside and points out to him that the woman is a paragon of indiscretion, with all the discretion and awkward shyness you'd expect out of a true blue american.

mircea_popescu: at this ranch in new mexico, a very old mexican man with a very young and incredibly slutty wife lived.

decimation: for a few days I entertained the idea of learning his crazy rune language

asciilifeform: decimation: i'm a believer in 'propaganda by the deed'

mircea_popescu: decimation the way it works, as far as the orthodox tradition is concerned, catholicism is a bunch of ridiculous simplifications and barbaric nonsense.

asciilifeform: what a thrill.

asciilifeform: decimation: met him at a party once.

BingoBoingo: artifexd: It's a nice thing for using MPEx as a consumer

mircea_popescu: how is "christians" a thing even. the us is mostly neoprotestants,

asciilifeform: his tale, people were always saying to him 'get a fscking handle'

decimation: The Law Of Merited Impossibility is an epistemological construct governing the paradoxical way overclass opinion makers frame the discourse about the clash between religious liberty and gay civil rights. It is best summed up by the phrase, ?It?s a complete absurdity to believe that Christians will suffer a single thing from the expansion of gay rights, and boy, do they deserve what they?re going to get.?

mircea_popescu: handle is a pretty good handle.

peterl: anybody want to speculate: will MPIF be actively traded like MPOE, or will it be a snoozer like the other stocks on mpex?

asciilifeform: eat the heart of a lion for courage, of hyena for endurance, etc.

asciilifeform: if you want a quasi-rational understanding of this crap, realize that rsa corp. actually sells

decimation: apparently most folks can't tell the difference between a bridge and a pile of raped goats anyway

decimation: I guess if bob can convince people that his goat orgy is a secure bridge, then he's good to go

asciilifeform: decimation: wanna try a real mindfuck?

mike_c: this will in no way create a black hole that takes all ur coinz.

mike_c: there is going to be a stock that tracks the fund that tracks the bitcoin economy as a whole.

peterl: mircea_popescu: mpex.co still lists S.MPIF as upcoming, shouldn't that be removed now that there is a link to F.MPIF in the "funds" section?

pankkake: yes, better. the second consists should have a s though?

mircea_popescu: mikaeldice: I could see a bitcoin casino with guest webcam models doing well << not a half bad idea.

gribble: Error: "rm" is not a valid command.

gribble: Error: "dvd" is not a valid command.

gribble: Error: "cd" is not a valid command.

gribble: Error: "dir" is not a valid command.

gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?

gribble: Error: "bash" is not a valid command.

midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: a.k.a. crypto-virology, a fairly well-studied problem that primarily (imo) affects closed-source crypto products.

kakobrekla: im not sure he knows mcd is a franchise

mikaeldice: I could see a bitcoin casino with guest webcam models doing well

mikaeldice: I wonder why he needs a whole franchise when a single site would be sufficient..