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Framedragger: 1) preamble: "[...] there is a strong correlation between a language being
Framedragger: for the logs - nothing new - but was a nice short summary - http://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/221615/why-do-dynamic-languages-make-it-more-difficult-to-maintain-large-codebases/221658#221658 - regarding JS:
mircea_popescu: not worth the mention
asciilifeform: 'own terms' is a sin.
mircea_popescu: pretty much everyone who doesn't lisp still harbords some sort of hope he'll you know, contribute to republic ON HIS OWN TERMS. hence pete_dushenski 's log-line ref bombings, because hey, maybe he's a little me or something.
mircea_popescu: the problem, predictably, is that we have dedicated cs people and very loosely associated everyone-elses.
asciilifeform: gotta invent the pieces.
asciilifeform: going to mars -- is doable. but not by simply jumping vigorously.
mircea_popescu: as per usual, when i talk of something it's not "undoable", whatever it may look like.
asciilifeform: the other thing, also from mircea_popescu's toolkit, that'd make this readily work, is the meta-isp thing
mircea_popescu: ignoring machine gun is a matter of action ; pretending no machine gun is a matter of thought. might as well not understand the difference between camming and dating.
mircea_popescu: if it is you have serious problems with thought generally. the second is two things.
asciilifeform: at any rate, the 'plug embrasure' approach -- worx
asciilifeform: the distinction between 'march, men, into machine gun fire, plug embrasure with your sorry arse' and 'pretend no machine gun' is perhaps too subtle for my orc brain
mircea_popescu: that's exactly how you solve the problem of housing yourself. you declare the "alf non-housing board" impotent.
mircea_popescu: ie, declare usg impotent and act accordingly. "oh, they'll shut you down" "whatever, i'll open another".
asciilifeform: isn't this kinda how mircea_popescu proposes to solve the problem of isp compulsion by meat sovereigns ? 'pretend not problem'
mircea_popescu: the solving a problem by pretending the problem doesn't exist, in whatever flavour may the pretense come, is not solving anything.
asciilifeform: such that one would not need heavy boxes, only relays.
asciilifeform: one component that would vastly simplify the job is gossip net.
mircea_popescu: this is pure elliotism, "the lack of women willing to marry poor people is not mega-puzzle".
asciilifeform: at any rate, i'd like to see 'tmsr isp' just as much as anyone. but the lack of berserkers willing to subsist on crumbs for ~0 ev, doing largely ~uninteresting and difficult chore, solely in the name of tmsr, is not mega-puzzle.
mircea_popescu: purely arbitrary, there's no principled argument to be had here.
mircea_popescu: mine happens to be at "i'll have house and isp and other things too."
mircea_popescu: so then. your arbitrary line is at "i will have house but not isp". his line is at "i will not have house or isp".
asciilifeform: and diogenes in turn beat the shit out of g. laddel..!1111
mircea_popescu: because hey, the dick that's not up my ass this moment never existed or somesuch.
asciilifeform: 'spam isp' is an actual thing, they live, die. my (nonexpert) impression is that the business model is only barely +ev. sorta resembles (btc) mine.
mircea_popescu: it's a fascinating thing that you don't give up on housing on this (gabriel laddel does - and you don't realise he is for the reason better than you ON YOUR OWN TERMS) but do give up on computer hosting for this.
mircea_popescu: the one you keep on every day so you can carry on with the nonsense.
asciilifeform: it ignores, and gets blackholed, then you need new one
mircea_popescu: no, do me a favour and take OFF the gas mask.
mircea_popescu: "by me ignoring the matter". "fine. so ignore it for isp too."
mircea_popescu: nevermind that. HOW DOES YOUR HOUSE BOTH HOUSE YOU AND ETC.
mircea_popescu: dude... your pretense is very fascinating in theory ; but in practice you somehow manage to make an unprincipled exception which apparently is entirely mysterious to you.
asciilifeform: house isn't trying to serve 13333333337w4r3z by the petabyte, neh?
asciilifeform: it looks to me as moar of a coca plantation and narcosub shipyard than pizzeria.
asciilifeform: the part that isn't clear to me is how it can be simultaneously -- a) 'tmsr'-friendly b) not owned & operated by a meat sovereign
mircea_popescu: look, at issue is not whether you want to do it or why. at issue is that much like opening a pizzeria, there is this thing called an isp.
asciilifeform: 'cuckoldtronic' isp as suggested not long ago by mircea_popescu , with the virii, is viable.
asciilifeform: upstream 'l3', 'at&t', etc. stoolies, keep whatever log they like.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform take bitbet for isntance. "we never kept logs" "no really we did" "fuck you. too late."
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/hBFcT >> 'President-Elect Donald Trump’s advisers are considering JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon for Treasury secretary, CNBC reported, citing two people familiar with the matter. Dimon isn’t interested, one of the people told CNBC.'
asciilifeform: '"If Ms. Rodham's not in the White House, that's okay — one of those girls is going to be,” she said. “We still have millions of nasty women who aren't going away.”'
asciilifeform: (for approx. same reason that there is not , at least in modern era, open, brazen, ru warez ftp; or even north kr warez.)
asciilifeform: because as i understand subj, this circle ain't squarable.
asciilifeform: to again revisit upstack, i would like to hear what mircea_popescu pictures would be a 'tmsr isp' .
mircea_popescu: i was not impressed with anything quote so much that year.
asciilifeform: it would not astonish me if after recent 'snackbar' event at their airport, it will begin to resemble baltimore's
mircea_popescu: watch those people process > 1k travellers/minute ; watch yourself get through the single file immigrations queue within ~12 minutes, as a new airbus/boeing lands every OTHER minute dumping 500 more people behind you.
mircea_popescu: go to istanbul sometime, for instance.
mircea_popescu: because coming-going to mordor.
asciilifeform: was quite same in, say, germany, last i was there
mircea_popescu: also entirely bush-usg thing. has nothing to do with anything but the insanity.
asciilifeform: (the other thing that moves very slowly in passenger ship is the queue at the 911port. but that is a more recent thing.)
asciilifeform: mainly the fault of parallax, anyone who has sat in a passenger plane will notice the ground, when visible, moves so very slowly.
asciilifeform: re the trains, i also recall reading of a similar dissatisfaction with 'modern' (sealed cabin) airplane, vs classic one
mircea_popescu: no, the result will be a bunch of billions of idiots doing stupid shit to innocent women that happen to be around
mircea_popescu: and if today we were to make slave republic, the result won't be you know, this is the island of slave republic, mthat is the island of progressive empire, that is the etc.
asciilifeform: nobody said that all appetites were compatible with reality.
mircea_popescu: do you wish the power of the internets or don't you. etc.
mircea_popescu: well... do you want it to go fast or don't you ?
mircea_popescu: this is not unlike modern tgv traveler who longs for ancient train, where landscape was distinguishable not a blur. and you could spot foxes from the carriage.
asciilifeform: modern folk do secretly long for ancient world, where the palette still had all of the colours
asciilifeform: and had to march in the gurl to prove she had not been impaled..
asciilifeform: he was put on trial for murder
mircea_popescu: which makes paul little both notable and an artist, exactly in the way of say dali ; and unlike all the other dorks and philisitnes ever involved (yours truly included)
asciilifeform: who filmed the 'impalement' scene
asciilifeform: i do recall this being a prblem with that italian dude
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt average taxpayer could distinguish samples from actual outrageous abuse. which obviously in terms of artform is a compliment ; but in practical terms it's ever so dangerous.
mircea_popescu: the typical max hardcore shot is, short woman who's a new face (unlike you know, stoya, distinctive pornstar, who everyone instantly recognizes) in garish 12 yo make-up (you know, the thick, deeply cloroed stuff they sell in gas stations in the south) saying she's 12, playing the dumb soubrette, being assfucked, fisted, spit on, drinking piss out of her own anus via intubation etc.
asciilifeform: dun think so
mircea_popescu: understand, up until that point he was periodically raided and the charges hung the jury / got dismissed. i use the 2005 govt raid / 2007 indictment to date the end of the vhs america in the practical sense - it went from larry flynt being the hero to paul little being the heel.
asciilifeform: and now that you said it, it makes sense to me, the envy is of the harem, not the usd.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik there are even today occasional trials of 'pornographers' in usa, these are normally bones thrown to 'christian' electorate.
GustaveGold: will do very soon, thank you
mircea_popescu: i also imagine the girls are still paying him visits, incredibly enough i guess he was actually well liked by the talent (unlike much more "upstanding" producers for instance)
GustaveGold: just wanted to get it live
GustaveGold: was reading the logs since a while and trilema itself
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: any idea whether 'hardcore' did his entire time ? or was let go on appeal.
mircea_popescu: and the "eh, THE COUNTRY" delusional notion one can live in the us is entirely fuelled by the 20+ years of max hardcore shooting his repugnant shit undisturbed.
mircea_popescu: as if it makes the first whit of difference that someone's offended. pssshhh
mircea_popescu: it's 10+ years in the making, and it was made out of dumb shit like this originally.
mircea_popescu: no, they just wanted max hardcore to apologize to the fuckwits. which is HOW this entire "cornell cry-in" thing got started
asciilifeform: nah, the bezzlars
asciilifeform: they wanted, i guess, the kulak's hoard.
mircea_popescu: imagine that dumb shit, "apologizing for offending the people of florida".
asciilifeform: (if memorable-name-whateverthefuck manipulation took 3 milliseconds and cost 0, it would be trivial to move warez site as often as you like)
asciilifeform: incidentally one major role of usgtronic 'dns' etc. is to make isp jurisdiction-hopping gnarlier.
mircea_popescu: trinque i had soldier isp back in the porn days (when it was "unacceptable" to the squares, but little going to jail over fucking girls in girly make-up to vomit was unthinkable).
mircea_popescu: something like that.
asciilifeform: this'd be more of a 'why does restaurant kitchen have mice, looksy, intel's fab floor doesn't' 'are you ready to pay $50,000 a gram for the potato?'
mircea_popescu: "why is there ddos ?" "did you want cheap internet or didn't you ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in a very theoretical principle, this. the mechanisms involved in the practical discussion, however, aren't nearly there. just simple cash starvation, "why is roach motel full of roaches!" "because you're paying $8 a night" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: exactly same issue with "progressive" pseudo-thought : the people they most hurt are the people who try to most help them.
asciilifeform: ergo 'sane isp' reduces to 'sane bank'
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/03/shame.html << great read on this topic, btw. grep for "and the risk of sex addiction isn't that you contact a disease, it's that you spread the disease."
asciilifeform: i.e. glued to the fiatdom(s) in which it physically runs.
asciilifeform: revisiting upstack , isp in the traditional sense, as i understand it , is 'castle'
mircea_popescu: nope, just another anodyne "social media" tard who really really thinks he can do things. and who - exact mirror of the trump situation - manages to hurt the people who credit him and no one else.