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mircea_popescu: yes, like 1mn and a little sold, and i have almost 1mn which is sitting in the book
artifexd: Maybe read them a few times....
artifexd: Today is not a day to skimp on reading the logs.
mircea_popescu: this is a little over ideal weight imo, will trim it over time as other venues become able to absorb moar capital
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bitcoinpete: Where there is still a people, there the state is not understood, but hated as the evil eye, and as sin against laws and customs.
bitcoinpete: Destroyers, are they who lay snares for many, and call it the state: they hang a sword and a hundred cravings over them.
bitcoinpete: It is a lie! Creators were they who created peoples, and hung a faith and a love over them: thus they served life.
bitcoinpete: A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its mouth: "I, the state, am the people."
bounce calls for a law to ban reddit, for the arts!
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it depends to a huge degree whose orders tho.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu soldiers only follow orders...isn't a requisite for higher learning self thought?
bounce: guys at MIT probably wouldn't make that many misteaks. they have a bit of an ethos of being bloody smart and figuring things out.
mircea_popescu: suppose i walk into a 3rd year computer science class at mit, and proceed to make the kids do one arithmetic problem, and then once they fuck it up make them do one hundred, by hand,
bounce: hard to tell. would depend a lot on how it's sold to the troops. I'll grant doing it without selling won't buy you anything except perhaps the troops' stuff to carry too.
mircea_popescu: would he likely be loved ? or on the contrary, despised as a total fucking moron of aggregated pointless idiocy ?
mircea_popescu: by now, the soldiers are sort-of carrying 30ish lbs of crap, and it's more like "you gotta be a suycker to carry all that".
bounce: though he apparently also had quite a bit of tent with tiles(!) for flooring with him on campaign, but anyway
mircea_popescu: that he was, himself, a soldier.
mircea_popescu: and each night, they dug out a castrum
mircea_popescu: which they carried, on foot, for about 30 miles a day, for weeks on end.
bounce: read the wikipedia page intro. got given a job to do, gave back the authority that came with it once job done.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu i see what you mean. perhaps the welfare deal could've only happened in the new world on the back of a sizeable military victory? never before, never again
bounce: breaking out of that was thus breaking with his prior identity, even his family (didn't help he was queer as a queen, but anyhow) and so on.
bounce: well, there's this book by a working-poor-to-riches guy that did it by working really hard and taking every opportunity (like calling the book "how you too can become a millionaire" when he's just explaining what opportunities came his way and how he used them, not really a manual but it's a bestselling title) who also notes it's often the poor that keep themselves and each other poor to, well, fit in with the rest. part of their identity.
mircea_popescu: the essence/substance distinction is not a matter subjective. what they think and represent has little import.
bitcoinpete: it's a directive
bitcoinpete: the order of a megacorp to buy a new car, new watch, granite countertops leads to busywork downstream
mircea_popescu: bounce no no, what i mean is quite this : the trannies in florida get the silicone to look a certain way. the african tribesmen get the cut to be a certain way. there's a meta level of distinction.
mircea_popescu: i mean this welfare nonsense is a) very recent and b) never seems to have been critically considered.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but you know... back in 1700 there seems to be a complete dearth of bohemian peasants that sat around injecting silicone in their butts to look more like women.
mircea_popescu: “Experts say people resort to illegal ‘pumping parties,’ where customers outside a hospital or clinical setting are injected with anything from Botox to industrial-grade silicone, out of convenience or because they lack insurance or access to health care and legitimate plastic surgery.”
mircea_popescu: " as we've seen, there's a market for convenience, any convenience at all" << that part.
bounce: oh no, I was on about the multisig idea underpinning a webwallet thingy
mircea_popescu: well no, i selected the "what to do about idiots". you seemed to say that well... empowering their idiocy through catering to their whims is a net positive.
bounce: what's that to do with the multisig wallet thingy bitcoinpete posted a blog about?
mircea_popescu: "Played monopoly, paid his buy-in". if there was a more marginal marginal ever...
mircea_popescu: well... he does have a 1...
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: just reading that as a matter of fact. irlloled several times in this bar
bounce: add earlier context that "the masses" happily take any stupid stuff when offered so even a marginally better idea improves the overall situation (if only marginally)
mircea_popescu: there's a market for injecting raw industrial silicon in women's buttocks.
mircea_popescu: bounce are you sure that there "being a market" is a valid approach ?
BingoBoingo: Flooding can extinguish pilot lights, gas builds up, prisoner lights a cigarette... Boom
bounce: that's a big if, though.
bitcoinpete: bounce: lol you make a good point even if they're lame
bounce: might as well mount a wallet.dat grabbing attack right away with some malvertising-planted rootkittery
bounce: not that much with only one part of a multisig. you'd have to go spear-phishing afterwards.
bitcoinpete: bounce: creating a big phat target
bounce: and, hm, assuming the in-browser problems are manageable you get a more convenient thingy than either a webwallet or a desktop client; can keep the user-hot key in, say, a webmail account somewhere without exposing yourself through the webmail account directly (unless the password is also in there)
bounce: sure. so if you produce a marginally safer thing and manage to have the crowd flock there you've improved overal security, however marginally
bitcoinpete: bounce: there was a market for gox and bfl
bitcoinpete: bounce: but that's the exact same as a normal back-up with bc/info or a desktop client
bounce: as in, safer than a straight-up webwallet and more convenient than cold storage. as we've seen, there's a market for convenience, any convenience at all
bounce: assuming they're not, for the sake of argument, it's maybe not a bad design decision to have "the user" store something useless on its own, but useful in combination with the website OR in combination with the backup key the user stuck in his safe deposit box
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: wired has been under embargo since bitgo: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/09/bitgo-multisig-a-stranger-his-friend-and-you/
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bounce saw mention of a study or other that relatively way too many rich kids got scholarships. well, they can pay for the consultancies that know how to get 'em, can't they?
BingoBoingo: bounce: It really is. Then again there is a huge difference between a poor kid from East St Louis pinning their hopes to an athletic scholarship and rich parents from DC doing the same.
bitcoinpete: bounce: spend hundreds of thousands for… a half that back. like a forum investment
BingoBoingo: I prefer TNF-A
bounce: in a way it's quite amazing people bet so heavily on "athletic scholarships"
bitcoinpete: is a "20x entrepreneur" lol
ozbot: Why Rich Lacrosse Parents Are Making Their Kids Repeat A Grade
punkman: "But this time their cyberbullying campaign may have been a blessing in disguise. "
punkman: mircea_popescu: some more then https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/542841
mircea_popescu: anyway, im making a post out of this.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr got a watch.
ozbot: Montrex Watch Project - A Truly Unique Timepiece ( watches ) by Montrex Watches » No new assistant.
BingoBoingo: Been a while since the Usagi name was invoked here.
punkman: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/550182
punkman: "This is the kind of stuff with which I have to deal due to the cyberbullying attacks on me.  The girl, Allison, who was supposed to start working here, today, was a no-call, no-show. "
ozbot: Montrex Watch Project - A Truly Unique Timepiece ( watches ) by Montrex Watches » re-branding updat
mircea_popescu: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/654887
supay: BingoBoingo: sure! I'll give it a shot! :)
BingoBoingo: supay: Write a nice guide shoot it to me. I'll give you 0.01 BTC and a 1 rating on the WoT.
bounce: clearly, you aren't a backer.
mircea_popescu: punkman https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/540696 << even better.
BingoBoingo: supay: If you wrote a guide to building Bitcoind 0.7 with the modifications to work on the right blockchain, on OpenBSD 5.5 I'd give you a plus one.
bounce: because ``Manipal, today, is a knowledge powerhouse and a brand name in higher education.''
mircea_popescu: "Manipal University is a name to reckon with not just in India, but the world over. "
bounce: that's not a given, but good to know. which university?
mircea_popescu: i just had to pour myself a triple drink because well... my brain knotted.
punkman: next message from Danny will read like this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/536830
mircea_popescu: then re-opened trading, arbitrarily, on a new symbol, with new authority
tradingloser: because i did that boring warren buffet thing where you know consistent revenue will come and you buy and hold for a long time. hopefully, multisignature is the future.
mircea_popescu: so allegedly an alleged "compliance officer" that doesn't exist made a request (that doesn't exist) to suspend the trading of a supposed company with real assets that don't exist
BingoBoingo: If you lose 88% at anything... How do you continue trying the same approaches that lost you the 88% without at least stopping to take a break?
kakobrekla: put your coins in cold storage and lurk here for half a year
mircea_popescu: <tradingloser> Well hoping for a new start. I took what looks like the remains of neobee and cryptoshitstocks over to bitcoinbourse. hoping for the best. <<< ahahah
supay: Yes of course.. Python should be a better..
moiety: benkay: just don't feel like a got anything done today and i hate days like that
benkay: moiety: who knows. just got a shredder, shredded a pile, torched it.
tradingloser: Well hoping for a new start. I took what looks like the remains of neobee and cryptoshitstocks over to bitcoinbourse. hoping for the best.
supay: with a lit match or a magnifying glass benkay ?
benkay: we set a pile of paper on fire earlier
benkay: it's a glorious day
mircea_popescu: tradingloser they're called play exchanges for a reason.
tradingloser: okay.. so i guess im in a double whammy.. i suck at trading + on a site where people always lose money..
mircea_popescu: <jurov> you know how they do it? they repeat a referendum until they get Yes << and then wonder why bitcoin doesn;t care what they think.
bounce: what? tar tvf - is "a" valid tar command