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the20year1: i imagine they're like all sorts of real world IPOs, milk the capital till it's dry, move on
Duffer1: i'm pretty sure they got thousands
benkay: i'm going for a slice of pizza
ThickAsThieves: i believe!
Duffer1: i know lol that's why i'm surprised havelock hasn't fallen all over itself to list them
Vexual: i'm shocked asic hasn't told em off yet
ThickAsThieves: <Duffer1> i'm shocked kenilworth still hasn't been listed, it's been a month <<< they probly cant afford the listing fees
the20year1: I'm not sure how the calculate it, since we had shares from bitfunder that migrated
the20year1: I don't know why Duffer1. They said they were listing at HL, and it took me from Jan 9th to Feb 7th to get listed.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what the strong financials those'd be. undisclosed as is customary ?
Duffer1: i'm shocked kenilworth still hasn't been listed, it's been a month
the20year1: i'm the first rentalstarter on bitcoin in 2013
moiety: i remember that benkay, ridiculous
herbijudlestoids: i just got word
B007: yeah I should probably do that
moiety: might make them blue, i have dye
moiety: i wonder if my muffins will turn out green, hope so
moiety: i love the NZ accent, i wonder if they all sound so cheeky
B007: I have a $50,000.00 USD sell limit; anybody wanna sell?
Namworld: I only have passport and health card available here.
Namworld: Yet again I can't do stuff not related to driving because they only take driver's license as a form of ID.
B007: wait where can i buy for 390
herbijudlestoids: benkay: i thought there was an issue that broke it, but apparently its been fixed, so i assume so
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/oX8YkXt.png
MisterE: I think that counts the ones that have failed too
ThickAsThieves: reddit is asleep i guess
ThickAsThieves: oh i forgot to check how reddit is doing
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids as far as i recall the original reports of the sr 2.0 failure placed the loss at 5k btc
MisterE: yea I never wanted to trade at Gox ever
MisterE: I still cant find any difinitive news about it
ThickAsThieves: i dont envy the goxer right now?
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: i get the feeling it wasnt fractional until the US Gov took several millions of their monies :P
ThickAsThieves: i mean people are panicking, thinking they are actually selling at a loss so they can buy cheaper
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids i thought they were 5k btc yest.
herbijudlestoids: i thought gox was a long only market
ThickAsThieves: it's gonna break 200 i bet
the20year1: I understand
herbijudlestoids: otherwise i can keep the price low indefinitely
ThickAsThieves: as soon as i saw your orders i knew you'd fail
random_cat: i knew i'd seen the basket answer before, but it got lost somewhere in the grey matter
mircea_popescu: MisterE in this case it makes me giddy too, i've a boatload of puts.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: its been a while, but i guess so
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids i guess it must be cloudy :)
herbijudlestoids: usually when you type mircea_popescu i feel like there is a ray of insight and knowledge which i can catch and appreciate. not so much today.
herbijudlestoids: i dun really see how its related at all.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i was not specifically, with the amount of capital input, trying to turn a profit. no. i figured that was clear but apparently not. the goal, specifically, was to entice an "ecosystem" as you put it, into existence, from which a profit can actually be derived.
mircea_popescu: jimjenkin depends what your criteria are, but i dunno why it would generally matter.
herbijudlestoids: i already said from the beginning that its highly unlikely for any business to succeed if undercapitalised and in this case i am undercapitalised for "daytrading ATC on openex"
herbijudlestoids: i couldnt decipher what the potential was on questioning
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: the purpose of my activity, like i explained to you (now 3 times) was to have a go at something i was skeptical would work, specifically because you seemed to think there was some potential in trying the idea out
herbijudlestoids: am i really speaking gibberish here?
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: what i said to you from the very beginning was that there is no profit to turn, except in the potential for MM, which i am underfunded for, but i would give a crack anyway
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i just explained it? nature does not build systems which drift from equilibrium. obama is literally riding a complex system in escape velocity. the implication is that what i tried to do is ...incorrect...because its obama-esque and not nature-esque...im saying thats so far from what i was trying to accomplish, that i dont understand the connection
Apocalyptic: damn i missed the new trilema
mike_c: herb, i wasn't trying to rile you up. i was just commenting on you saying you didn't care because you lost $9. my point was that's the best kind of loss to learn from if you can.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: in no sense am i trying to build a complex system, just provide the seedbed for liquidity in ATCBTC on openex, in the hopes of enticing others to do similar
herbijudlestoids: i tried it anyway, to keep an open mind because maybe i am missing some concept... but i dont think i am.
pankkake: Duffer1: I don't know if it will attract anyone. http://bitbet.us/bet/633/bfl-will-ship-before-activemining/ is almost dead
herbijudlestoids: this all started because mircea_popescu asked if i would be his "ATC daytrader on openex" because i mentioned having put on a small cascade of limit sells last night...and i said i didnt think there was anything to the market except the potential for MM
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: yall seem convinced that you have taught me some kind of lesson...or that im learning it...or whatever...all i can see is approx what i said would happen if undercapitalised, happened. i dont really take any exception to it happening, but to the idea that there was some kind of inherent lesson, or some point, whatever... i dont see it
herbijudlestoids: haha fuck mike_c if its so aggravating, you can just put me on ignore, right? like i dont want to draw sighs from anyone
herbijudlestoids: i will just have to get another $9 :P
BingoBoingo: Now I just have to see if my withdrawal of most of herbijudlestoids's BTC makes it from Openex to https://blockchain.info/address/1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm not at all convinced. I just want to trick herbijudlestoids into gifting me more coins.
herbijudlestoids: i am, sure, 0.00000001 ATC
herbijudlestoids: i can keep the idiots far away
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: im starting to feel like i perceive value at 110 :)
BingoBoingo: At least I hope idiocy works that way
BingoBoingo: But I think Dogers like high last trades
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm no
BingoBoingo: I made two profits.
mircea_popescu: yes well you gotta cut me some slack here, i deal with nude bands of amazons on a biweekly basis
herbijudlestoids: i find your definitions to be strange
Duffer1: i've never seen that color of star trek shirt
mircea_popescu: and now i want the world to see
kakobrekla: perhaps i cut my dick off with that btc
kakobrekla: perhaps we were short, perhaps i was high
KRS-One: http://i.imgur.com/7knHvEF.jpg
kakobrekla: > I'm not sure why I ordered 8 rather than 9 upgrades, perhaps it was all we could afford at the time.
herbijudlestoids: so if i make a profit, but i cant make another profit, it counts as getting creamed?
herbijudlestoids: i mean, now that i have no BTC in the account, i cant make the market...thats all
mircea_popescu: holy shit i know that chick.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i sold some BTC for some ATC? at above the diff implied price?
mircea_popescu: traditionally "i had a plan, gotta discontinue cause out of capital" is creamed.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i have not been creamed in any market since may 6 2010 :)
herbijudlestoids: well, it was my assumption that BingoBoingo wouldnt wanna see the last trade as ~100 but i guess i was wrong
BingoBoingo: When he put in asks I also found them palatable.
herbijudlestoids: i dun have enough BTC to keep the shenanigans goin
herbijudlestoids: nah i put some bids in, try and create some interest, bingo wanted the bids instead of pass the parcel...now nothin
mircea_popescu: i thought you were both discussing other people's other trades
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: unless i'm missing something, trade only happens when buyer and seller agree on a price. when goods change hands regardless, we usually use another word for it.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't much traded. I simply saw herbijudlestoids buying and selling at prices I like.
mircea_popescu: i think it took about 19 months for a 5 btc aggregated trade
mircea_popescu: mike_c i thought 1mn
mircea_popescu: i think it all adds up to 2-3 over its lifetime
mircea_popescu: yeah but iirc i bought like 500k otc,
herbijudlestoids: i count the cumulative volume as 0.18
herbijudlestoids: and if im not capitalised correctly then the best i can do is the best i can do
kakobrekla: i dont know what is happening. so ill leave.
herbijudlestoids: i am not capitalised correctly to make bids