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mircea_popescu: can pick one of (deliver binaries, expect user
to accomodate your library needs). not both.
mircea_popescu: well, standard whatever. i don't have it,
they don't supply it, story ends neh ?
Framedragger: i know how you dislike 'shared libraries', but honestly
this is standard practice, yknow.
Framedragger: (because
there shouldnt be need for java iirc)
Framedragger: (oh
that may be for
the pack. sorry for spam.)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger pretty sure
the system is 64 bit but anyway
Framedragger: "Try downloading
the 32-bit version from
the All Versions
tab on
the Dwarf Fortress download page. "
Framedragger: "This error means
that you are using
the 64-bit edition on a 32-bit system.
mircea_popescu: so basically
they ship binaries which don't run and all
the discussion is re df.exe
Framedragger: that's mainly because
the
two brows live off of stable donations by
their dedicated community, i
think. :) but
then
the community has high expectations and are (in a wishy-washy) sense kinda-shareholders.. so yah, heh.
shinohai: What can I say,
the game likes punishing me for
taking so long
to jump on board.
diana_coman: my xp with
the (very few) df players I know is
that
they are either so dedicated
to df or so comfortable with it
that
they
totally unavailable/unwilling
to even looking at something else
Framedragger: if
there's one
thing
they have is a fucking dedicated community
diana_coman: iirc I *did* mention dwarf fortress some
time ago precisely because of some similarities; I
think mircea_popescu left a message on
their wiki/forum/whatevs but nothing/nobody materialised as a result
mircea_popescu: oddly enough, from
this losing article, seems eulora castles are intended
to work exactly like fortresses, ie, sooner or latter you'll prolly lose it.
Framedragger: main df dev gave up pure math postdoc
to focus on df full-time iirc
mircea_popescu: actually : current lead dev started life as frustrated eulora player who wrote a bot
to automate
the insanity.
ben_vulpes: players wrote
their own dwarf mgmt software because
the builtin mgmt
tools are famously inadequate
ben_vulpes: dwarf fortress is a game you play in spite of
the game's best efforts
to stop you
ben_vulpes: rather deep crafting
tree, roguelike + 4x
mircea_popescu: i
think it was just in my blindspot. apparently everyone goes
through a decade-ish of disinterest.
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: good stuff! horribru UI (in
terms of consistencies) iirc (long
time ago)
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 17:01 mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone play a lot of rogue / has friends/connections in
the rogue/nethack community ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw speaking of "i don't understand what
this does
therefore it's secure" - you know
the rogue rnz ?
BingoBoingo: This is
truly a great again
time
to be alive
mircea_popescu: lol kayne west is "white nationalist" nao ? poor jooz, so much
to want, so little
to get, so many mind pretzels
to make!
mircea_popescu: iirc first incarnation of loud imbecile with flock of followers who got publicly owned and moved
to "proof of stake" as "solution"
mircea_popescu: anyway, eulora dungeons are very likely
to look a lot like demise's (except programatically generated).
mircea_popescu: it also displays what was wrong with it - fucking rings of magic. get
teleport ring + death/fire rings, wipe it all.
mircea_popescu: (if you
teleport into solid walls you're fucked worse
than death)
Framedragger: there's dcss
https://crawl.develz.org/ which you can play using webtiles, or via standalone executable with gfx (iirc), or via
terminal / nethack-style. i haven't played a lot of it but it's nice.
mircea_popescu: but nah, demise was advanced, actual paper dollies like
the might and magic series.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there was a pretty cool dungeon crawler (demise) which i loved and always regretted
they didn't properly implement it as a roguelike with gfx.
mircea_popescu: it occurs
to me
that it's not just a good fit for eulora, but actually very wot and
tmsr-like.
mircea_popescu: at least a decade ago
they kept
track who ascended with what and when and etcetera.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone play a lot of rogue / has friends/connections in
the rogue/nethack community ?
☟︎ shinohai: It appears db4.8 doesn't really care how large
the field is
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey,
there's a reason
trilema has
to be
this fucking big.
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later
tell mod6 so after roughly 10 minutes,
trb will accept a 8192 char string as label :D
phf: also i've been mostly quite in
the past
two weeks, because i'm sick. i should be back
to
the regular schedule programming in a week or so
scriba: responsibilities of developers. virtual worlds are not insulated from
the real world
scriba: Logged on 2016-11-20: [19:36:42] <mircea_popescu> ACTION
tries
to read bartle because people keep insisting. aside from his
tiresome cabotinism (really bitch, mud1 is a major point of reference, because why, you never heard of rogue/nethack or what) he's about as sighted as a snail. 'cyberpunk
teaches designers a number of valuable lessons about
the sociology and psychology of players and
the
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 15:26 Framedragger considers how accurate his information about mp is.
the computation required is probably NP-complete, lol.
mircea_popescu: the wot is
to be based on judgement about
the past ; not on projections about
the future.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 17:09 asciilifeform: very
talkative corpse
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 15:16 asciilifeform: in my mind, you oughta unrate
those folx who
there is no reasonable expectation of seeing again.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 15:24 asciilifeform:
there is also
the elementary fact
that ratings
take up space.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i used
to hold get
togethers, we did iirc
three.
shinohai: I'd almost bet a Bitcoin
that anond from #eulora will come in with it installed on his laptop next
time he surfaces.
trinque: such elliotism,
that what was "distro" is now OS.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 14:17 mircea_popescu:
trinque dots should be stop chars
though. i meant actual solid alphanum blocks not "blackmirror.nosedive.final"
shinohai: I keep reading about
this new Ubuntu-based distro Zorin OS ... an "alternative"
to Windowze 10
trinque: I'll have
the page updates being fired via db
trigger. I just don't do
this "lets regenerate every page of
this book every
time
the page is read" anymore.
trinque: still work
to be done, but done soon.
deedbot: shinohai updated rating of
trinque from 2
to 3 << deedbot.org,
trb
shinohai: !!rate
trinque 3 deedbot.org,
trb
Framedragger: maybe i'll get
the opportunity
to organize a party in
the next 20 years. would be grand.
Framedragger considers how accurate his information about mp is.
the computation required is probably NP-complete, lol.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Let's also note
that such a
thing as "the direct
trust" of X for Y can not even be noted down in
the first place, it being entirely a subjective determination of X, and consequently wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen applies. "
mircea_popescu: "It is important
to remember
that
the score associated
to a relationship does not mark
the direct
trust of
the scorer for
the scoree, but merely
the scorer's confidence
that
the information he has about scoree is correct, accurate, relevant and complete. All four.