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snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:00:59 asciilifeform: there aint one.

bvt: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926429 << well, if you're willing to use heathen libs, there are at least 2 pgsql bindings libs, but dunno about the quality (most likely with gnat.socket inside, yes).

bvt: hello. asciilifeform: i like the new logger, esp the multi-chan support

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:09:42 spyked: speaking of which, asciilifeform, could you bring snsabot in #spyked? wouldn't hurt to have it listening there.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926704 << i'ma put it in on next reset. loox like i'll have to adjust the www template tho, it's run, lol, outta horiz. space! in the chan bar.

asciilifeform: and hm seems to be stalled entirely just nao

asciilifeform: i get 5 dropped conns to erry successful load..

asciilifeform: btw re ddos -- mircea_popescu i think yer site also is being dos'd

asciilifeform finally eaten (1st pass!) of this spinebreaker log!

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 08:34:09 phf: there's no need to znc, the entire archive of logs is available here: http://btcbase.org/log-raw/ with 2016-03.txt being the last kako file. the only outlier is tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt which is the dump mircea_popescu gave me of the prehistoric logs, which i have a custom reader for.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926775 << while would still like znc-eating & similar to close gaps, must note that phf's bot has the closest to 100% time coverage of afaik any. so defo will make use of.

asciilifeform: phf: alternatively , genesis the thing and i'ma maintain it. i might be the only daily user, and would be entirely fair for asciilifeform to carry the work of maintaining the thing.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 08:34:17 phf: btcbase will continue running the way it has been so far, and i will continue putting vpatches into patches at least until there's a replacement

asciilifeform: em. that way could fill it up with recents (e.g. diana_coman's v sigs; asciilifeform's last 'm' patch/sig) w/out hassling phf

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926776 << i can't speak for erryone, but, in case wasn't clear, asciilifeform spends HOUR+ (and sometimes several h) erry single day of the week reading coad at btcbase/patches ! it is quite essential tool , fully 20-30% boost of brain to asciilifeform . that being said, would be imho a++ if you found how to make it eat patches/sigs through a www-based hopper, like jurov's earlier it

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 08:34:02 phf: asciilifeform: i'll genesis you the logger in the next two weeks. i'd rather you not waste time on it though. the design predates castles, so making it multichannel might be excessive amount of work. it's idiosyncratic, a product of the conversations from four years ago. your current approach seems a lot more solid.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926774 << wb, phf ! i ftr am glad to see you back, and will defo read yer proggy (and crib from, to make modernized / rationally-designed logotron sans voodoo, when time permits)

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:52:12 spyked: my sense so far is that they (initially?) designed it to be a beast similar to Apache, rather than running behind it. it does multi-threading so it should be able to handle high loads pretty well. so if, say, I snipped the multi-threading bits out, I'd perhaps cut the code in half.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926736 << threading seems like a luxury until you discover that some operation is in fact blocking in whatever case, or when you find that you want to meaningfully recover from crash, etc

asciilifeform: punch yer card deck, throw in hopper, pray.

asciilifeform: python is very firmly an artifact of the 'batch processing' era.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 11:07:11 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926571 << will show correct link when the bot is next reset.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:39:17 spyked: ah. yeah, not sure there's such a thing. as asciilifeform pointed out, cl seems to handle string'isms better... and as mircea_popescu pointed out, cl doing tcpisms is not much different from python

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926731 << not quite. if snsabot were a cl proggy, i would not need to restart it and lose connection to do knob turn.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926724 << all laffs aside, he had the seriously better proggy (and with 3y+ of massage, too)

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:19:59 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i noticed it too, takes a coupla secs for a longer page.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926723 << for some 'heavy' log days i get up to 5s load

asciilifeform: pc is quite literally analogous to the 1880s portrait of mains current, where in nyc erry mansion, factory, has shed with steam engine chugging away (when the stoker remembers to stoken, and when the leather drive belt not rotted yet..)

asciilifeform: the 'pc micro revolution' popularized an imho extremely braindamaged concept of what is 'comp lang'. specifically, where folx think that the front syntax is somehow logically glued to the internal mechanics ( whereas is merely happenstance, pc provides such broken bedrock abstractions that forces erry new lang author to write compiler 'from 0' as if year were 1959, but this is merely happenstance, rather than logical inevitability )

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:13:06 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926690 << i suspect there may be fundamental reasons for which there simply can't be such a thing as "a tmsr lang"

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926712 << it is entirely possible to have sane ~back end~ on which you, e.g., write in a lisp-flavoured skin when mangling trees, and a fortran-flavoured skin when want to run in constant space/time with fine control of flow; the bolix people -- had. in fact, arguably all machines have (presently piss-poor) incarnation of this concept, it is... the machine arch itself.

asciilifeform: i defo saw impressive storm of packets when was testing the bot locally.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:50:29 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926684 << definitely ; hand cranked, too -- hit mp_en_viaje's last ip when i logged on this one. well, coupla minutes later, anyway.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926695 << could easily be fleanode per se; they even advertise 'all new connections will be portscanned! for yer own good!'

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:49:48 spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926462 <-- it does that indeed, as per http://coad.thetarpit.org/feedbot/feedbot/c-feedbot.lisp.html#L8 ; heck I'll set it to 2sec if that guarantees it won't fail; but yeah, fleanode provides no actual guarantees.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926693 << mine seems to be working happily with 0.1s transmit delay. but indeed fleanode provides no guarantees, tomorrow they could just as easily decide that snsabot sending 4 shots in 0.5s is 'flood'.

asciilifeform: i strongly suspect that 'logtron in ada' would inescapably contain the proverbial 'buggy 80% reimplementation of common lisp'(tm)

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:00:54 asciilifeform: would have to write pg end also !

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:45:56 spyked: also, I guess there's also the fact that despite all its problems, there's a pile of CL code (e.g. hunchentoot, cl-irc) that works... very similarly to how wordpress does the job, despite its size and other warts. maybe Ada could also find similar pieces of code for Ada, but tbh I haven't looked... yet?

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926692 << principal weakness (and strength! interestingly) of ada is the total lack of support for questionable legacy kludges .

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:01:43 mp_en_viaje: 2) i never made money, i always made power. the money was coincidental. i never made all the money there was to make or could. nor did i ever give much of a shit, i'm utterly not constructive, a world of nothing but mp will burn down.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926667 << 'Мы на горе всем буржуям Мировой пожар раздуем!'(tm)(r)(a. blok) . sometimes exactly what is needed, is flamethrower. can't speak for others, but this is what asciilifeform orig found appealing about mircea_popescu . there's no shortage of what needs burnin'

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:59:56 mp_en_viaje: 1) i am an utterly TERRIBLE font of advice re business. i made oddles of money in SUCH improbable, unlikely venues and circumstances -- admittedly, regularly, multiply, repeadedly, but SO FUCKING UNLIKELY -- i dare not presume what works for me works in any meaningful sense.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926664 << there is however pasteur's infamous 'luck favours the prepared'.

feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/09a-maramures.html << The Tar Pit -- Maramure

asciilifeform will eat remaining log (heavy!) after tea; brb

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:54:14 trinque: we're struggling up into the money machine, and it has its costs.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926651 << i wish trinque and ben_vulpes to have moar luck than i, with this scheme ( asciilifeform went ~twice~, both times lost shirt. )

asciilifeform: (i.e. whatever one might plug 'battery gpg' into, could trivially extract privkey via timing side channel)

asciilifeform: diana_coman: whole story of how asciilifeform ended up with peh , if you recall, at one pt asciilifeform wanted to bake a battery-powered 'gpg replacement'. then went and saw what gpg actually consisted of, and found that not only koch liquishit, but broken on ~algo~ level

diana_coman: well, looking forward to see it and time it

asciilifeform: but, naturally can expect that will run considerably slower than on pc. (my current estimate, factor of 30 or so, on the extant chips)

diana_coman: I still need to run tests and timings re "fast" but as a principle, it's not the first requirement (rsa is not for speed anyway)

asciilifeform: diana_coman: peh-on-batteries is defo part of the planned sequence. (last ch! in fact.)

asciilifeform: diana_coman: one painful way in which ic fab differs from softwarisms is that failure is ~very~ expensive. buggy proggy you can throw away, you lost a day or however long it took to write. buggy ic is a coupla 100k (usabux) in the hole.

diana_coman: asciilifeform: the main issue is that I'd much rather run peh not-on-pc, pretty much

snsabot: Logged on 2018-11-30 20:41:34 asciilifeform: last yr ( and before ) i talked to a coupla ic fabs, in various countries. they all not only run winshit but demand that you use their 'standard cells', which available (surprise?) under nda

asciilifeform: the former would cost like FG; the latter... erry year or so i go an' dig, so far to end up empty-handed

asciilifeform: diana_coman: depending on meaning of 'peh iron', could be quite inexpensive ( e.g. to plant it on commonplace battery-powered item, e.g. pic32mz, is entirely possib. ). but possibly this is not what diana_coman was thinking of, but instead the full orchestra where e.g. 4096b multiplier for fast rsa ?

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:48:05 mp_en_viaje: kinda why he wanted mips : could bake mips-peh-asic on the cheap atm.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926645 << if were actually 'cheap', already would have baked. possibly i did not explain the subj properly. mips is 'cheap' in terms of ~time~ , it is a classic and very compact design with existing compiler support. but to bake physical asic (on practical scale, rather than 'here's 5 dies that maybe-work for 5k ea. and we hope you know how to solder gold wire under microscope' -- re

asciilifeform: was just about to answr

diana_coman: asciilifeform: my q (if perhaps different from trinque's) is what would it take to have peh-iron?

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:47:42 trinque: asciilifeform: what would it take to bake some peh?

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:35:10 mp_en_viaje: and if you care, i suspect the quietness of your blog is what's giving people creeps.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926616 << asciilifeform for one would defo enjoy to read trinque's adventures in petro biz or where it is that he's adventuring

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:32:00 trinque: incidentally I have records of every IRC message deedbot has ever seen.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926606 << wb trinque ! and yes, potentially useful, the moar the merrier, to fill whatever gaps in archive

diana_coman: asciilifeform: yes, the dynamic ip seems to be the headache there indeed

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:23:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926527 << also jhvh1 and a111 please. and i guess candilust & tb0t eventually, though not yet. oh and "nsabot" is actually "snsabot" for some reason, i guess let's stick to it.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-18 21:34:14 asciilifeform: reluctant to move www to piz, it's a fairly high traffic item, possibly adds up to half a trilema's (complete with regular ddosism)

snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-19 16:57:44 asciilifeform: peeks at the nfs forum crapola; nao with 'nya-nya' from peanut gallery, bonus.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:23:02 diana_coman: I wish though I could actually access your blog from machine-other-than-toilet

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926581 << i'ma guess the dynamic ip thing is the headache there. i'ma be moving the www soon, tho. as soon as i figure out to where...

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:21:27 mp_en_viaje: (idea is, you !!v a buncha times and safely decrypt, then store the otps use as needed. this was discussed years ago, it's good cuz it don't expose the keys on bot's iron)

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926578 << this sounds workable

snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 19h 31m

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926571 << will show correct link when the bot is next reset.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:06:11 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, speaking of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926225 : hanbot is taking teenaged / twentysomething females meeting the pizdi bill ; i presume asciilifeform is taking highly intelligent, shy & introverted males age-irrespective, math grad student prototype while diana_coman is taking inquisitive teenagers age irrespective and BingoBoingo latam... fema

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926567 << in practice asciilifeform will work with anyone who has hands growing from the right organ; but the folx mircea_popescu described are more likely to end up in #a, i suspect indeed

asciilifeform: incidentally this is yet another weakness of pythonism. the utf8 support is a voodoo incantation and does whothefuckknows what.

asciilifeform: hrm anybody else see that spurious 0x01 ?

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 22:24:24 asciilifeform: expects that before long, we'll find out that the pythonisms can't in fact be reliably reproduced, because 'ecosystem updated' or whateverthefuck rots

PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926544 << what I was pointing at ^, bot did not read. Is there a reason btcbase and nosuchlabs logs do not cut the day at the same point?

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:32:19 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926566 << "After pressing you will need to run npm install from the project directory in order to pull down just under 100mb of depshits in order for this to work." top keks. left you a comment, too.

billymg: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926726 << thanks for looking, i'm about to leave town for a few days but will try to respond on my blog over the weekend

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 00:44:50 thimbronion: BingoBoingo: I can't decrypt the invoice - it is encrypted to a key I don't have.

lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.

BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell trinque http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pizarro/2019-08-09#1000025

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:32:00 trinque: incidentally I have records of every IRC message deedbot has ever seen.

lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926606 << idk about you, but I have some amusing logs of messages to auctionbot.

a111: Logged on 2019-08-09 01:43 asciilifeform expects that before long, we'll find out that the pythonisms can't in fact be reliably reproduced, because 'ecosystem updated' or whateverthefuck rots

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-09#1926545 << python has the advantage that development happens on python 3, so python 2 has become "depcricated" (aka stable) ☝︎

lobbes: But I'll still make a vpatch after this znc-eating work once I'm done. Should not take long anyways, so why not

lobbes: In my case, the cost of the iron getting popped and my bots losing their private keys did not seem high (really, I'd just make a new bot key and sign it from mine). Still, as I said, probably not ideal, especially when spyked already has the proper otp solution published.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:28:31 trinque: lobbes: what bot's key did you have in mind?

lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926600 << not in my mind; already on my iron. Like I said, it isn't an ideal system (there is a thread somewhere already on this), but both of my bots have their respective (dundundun) private keys sitting on the iron. I issue a command and the bots go and do the decrypting.

lobbes: phf: the znc eater, if I am corrent in understanding, is for backfilling the other castle logs (#a, #o, #e, etc.)

lobbes: ah it is good to wake up to logs again