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mircea_popescu: very odd neh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they tested random units came out the right value ?
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: clearly, google thinks you're narcissistic :D
mircea_popescu: win.
mircea_popescu: when they're done doing that they can probably get back to riding their wooden horses or w/e nine year olds do when not monkeying the adults.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller this isn't "permissionless innovation", this is "standardization without permission".
mircea_popescu: !up shesek
mircea_popescu: pour encourager les autres.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, danielpbarron or someone, mind tweeeting that link in response to say https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/576158948950171648
mircea_popescu: if you allow "server farms" you also allow the government the power toi know which necks to squeeze, which in practice readily devolves to shrem begging for ten bucks because http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-they-dont-tell-you-when-they-bring-you-those-papers-to-sign/
mircea_popescu: this is obviously a plain requisite for any government-proof system of anything.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, "bbs where every user runs his own nntp server" is a) a better implementation of irc, which is a better implementation of bbs, which is dead tech and b) exactly where gossipd is going.
mircea_popescu: it's kinda incredible to me that the entire intellectual production of the usg crowd is limited to merely rehashing points debunked within a week or two of the "controversy".
mircea_popescu: it's like boring boring b-a boring b-a b-a boring etc.
mircea_popescu: hahaha it was just pointed out to me that if you google for pretty much anything to do with btc b-a is probably in the results, and if you click over to images there's definitely some b-a ladies in there.
mircea_popescu: !up ColinT
mircea_popescu: i recall reading here.
mircea_popescu: you don't need context, it's an image.
mircea_popescu: but here's a graduating hs class to bridge us over. http://41.media.tumblr.com/892db9f0182fd2b0fc69986349321c7c/tumblr_n7gasyXpPM1s0yaxoo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu doesn't think this objection holds much water.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait, isn't that HOW you measure resistence in the first place ?
mircea_popescu takes advantage of b-a to refresh his electronics knowledge :D
mircea_popescu: is there some way to connect a resistor in an unpowered, unshorted circuit so that i can't measure it without unmounting it ?
mircea_popescu: now that'd be measured in circuit
mircea_popescu: you got 400k or some shit
mircea_popescu: yes hon, but you didn't get 207.5 parts for a 210 part
mircea_popescu: resistors tho ?
mircea_popescu: do they even have to be removed ?
mircea_popescu: can be done easy enough and undestructively, just turn the machine off and pop its cover
mircea_popescu: well, one way to find out, of course, would be to get some new laptops/handhelds and measure their resistors.
mircea_popescu: there's a definite age gap. kids born pre 1990 are more different from kids born after than slave owners from slaves in the deep south cca 1790
mircea_popescu: maybe out of old stuff they have in garage ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ham radio folks use older gear maybe ?
mircea_popescu: 0 actually engage in hunting for bugs like this.
mircea_popescu: out of the millions of redditards generously employed to do tech support, millions are in "tech support stories" talking about how idiot customers are
mircea_popescu: jobsworth.
mircea_popescu: (mystically breaks, sent for repairs, returns fixed, breaks again, etc)
mircea_popescu: may account for all those cases of the zombie device.
mircea_popescu: you may be on to something there.
mircea_popescu: well, not regardless of what animal, but unless someone shoots a unicorn it will not be unicorn meat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if that's where it's at, danielpbarron has a point. gotta get it running, somehow.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im jus' trying to get where we're at.
mircea_popescu: so then it's more like, "can't get an os for pogo, we like to believe it can be done nevertheless" ?
mircea_popescu: so the breakdown is that you know how and he doesn't an' you're not telling him ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what's the situation here, can't get an os for pogo ?
mircea_popescu: lmao @weirdus
mircea_popescu: wait those aren't srs either ?!
mircea_popescu: lol is that srs ?
mircea_popescu: clearly the "sanctions against russia" are working.
mircea_popescu: ceramic tile factory.
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaSinPat << a fine example.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: on the positive side however : this is the closest you can get to china commercially without getting close to them in a political sense.
mircea_popescu: if china (and to some degree russia an' italy) stop propping them, argentina goes to meet cuba on its way to chad.
mircea_popescu: mnope. brazil took that over too.
mircea_popescu: they don't even make bullets.
mircea_popescu: they don't have a drydock. or a car factory. or a truck factory. or a plane factory.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile romania is exporting nuclear technology, weaponry, high tech mechanics etc.
mircea_popescu: they used to export carne vacuna, but then failed to meet their quotas and lost the contracts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand. argentina is trying to support a romania-level living standard on the basis of... soy exports.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's sorta like a howitzer.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel makes sense.
mircea_popescu: Fartse - The World's Premiere Gravity Well Degravitizer.
mircea_popescu: or was that the other cult.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, is the article of faith that jesus is coming on a great atomic dirigible from the sky to take us to the other planet and smite the unbelievers ?
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine so. and if they did, what of it.
mircea_popescu: folks even tried!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform writing a book of actual economy in moscow 1960 was equally titanical and demoralizing. or to get back to earth : a book on actual psychopathology in leningrad, bout same time.
mircea_popescu: mostly because much fewer people did the former
mircea_popescu: he was actually, in comparative terms, more of a noted expert in the field of safe cracking than in the field of physics
mircea_popescu: he broke safes his entire life tho.
mircea_popescu: the *actual* kind, i mean
mircea_popescu: for that matter, not that many economists in soviet russia.
mircea_popescu: now /that/ is very dark ages. not that many practical moralists in 1200
mircea_popescu: hegel was the same way, in the cluj universitarian library. supposedly the european expert in hegel resided there.
mircea_popescu: "the thick book nobody ever borrows", generally.
mircea_popescu: they're, contrary to what the "consumers have come to expect" like to pretend, very easy to find
mircea_popescu: feynman, etc.
mircea_popescu: i generally manage to identify the actual experts in fields.
mircea_popescu: no, i actually read knuth like i read buffett.
mircea_popescu: so he did. i recall reading it and not understanding what he meant at the time
mircea_popescu: in the manner people write fucking books. or at least did, before the great usian likbez pogrom
mircea_popescu: really, find me a piece of code written with a clear contrite consideration of "people will read this tomorrow"
mircea_popescu: this is no argument in this discussion, tho. historically there has been great profit in all sorts of dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: the bridge and engineering are co-generated
mircea_popescu: there were no bridges in "dark age"
mircea_popescu: pfff.
mircea_popescu: i don't code. principally because i can't be arsed to do a good job of it.
mircea_popescu: the idea that you ~must~ code, whether it works or not, no matter what, is scandalous.
mircea_popescu: srsly ? when, this.
mircea_popescu: this is like "originbally, the bridge standing at all was impressive"
mircea_popescu: i will appreciate nothing.
mircea_popescu: i dunno about that.
mircea_popescu: the casual perusal of openssl that earlier article triggered has crystallized this point in my head.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's many fields outside of perhaps psychology where "practitioners" have for so long acted with such intense disregard for posterity.
mircea_popescu: anyway, just to add : the people who have come before us have embedded into the very history of computing such burning, enraged contempt for us, that really damnatio is too good a fate.
mircea_popescu: lol. don't we all.
mircea_popescu: then this discussion will suffice :D
mircea_popescu: sure.