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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc we had a spec for sane log
that went along
the lines of separations like discussed
ben_vulpes: anyways,
that episode pointed me in
the direction of external log mgmt
ben_vulpes: failed
to land a patch, was summarily executed by handlers
ben_vulpes: well dump svlogd in
the bin of 'pointless abstractions
that make life under
the
tyranny of linux mildly less painful and retarded'
then
shinohai: I have just logged
timestamps on mine with `|xargs -IX printf "$(date -u)\t%s\n" X `
mircea_popescu: apparently a sane semantic model for fucking unix is still a bridge
too far.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well i put a redirect in
there
mircea_popescu: my point is not
that i could or couldn't fix it as much as it is i shouldn't have
to. i also don't change diapers for
the people i go out
to dinner with, notwithstanding i ~could~.
ben_vulpes: can be configured for log rotation,
timestamps in myriad formats, udp packets on certain parse events
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i know you already gave up on
the
thing, but i use svlogd
to hammer poorly-logging proggies into sanity
mircea_popescu: which
they disavow and so pretend it never happened so it's "free" ie unexplaiend income
mircea_popescu: and
the meagre 20 bux
they get now and again for sucking my dick
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 17:08 asciilifeform: ( and iirc
trb still has no
times in logz )
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 17:08 mircea_popescu: who. who keeps making logfiles with no notion of
time ? how is
this supposed
to work ?
mircea_popescu: as much as it sucks
to be one of
the progresstards in
the us, imagine how very much worse all
the random ngo-niggers and assorted aspirational retards from
the rest of
the world have it.
mircea_popescu: apparently
there exists a german alive
today sufficiently boneheaded
to imagine anyone is willing
to use a german company for any purpose.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't be arsed
to spent
time on it
tbh. either it works out of box or doesn't work at all is
the extent of my patience.
mircea_popescu: the exercise of
today being a fine point in case -
they can't even be used
to play games,
though
they may marginalloy fit it, we'd be all in bed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and yet i never had
this inept sort of bs problem on nvidia cards.
mircea_popescu: course
the fact
that radeon had a stellar reputation for being an unworking buggy pos
throughout
the 90s didn't help
mircea_popescu: with
the result being much more obfuscation
than in
the case of nvidia
mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure it's due
to
the "driver" for radeon mobility 7500 being a dubious pos which is pretty much sabotaged deliberately.
mircea_popescu: for some reason i had it in my head you had ironed out (or maybe just fought and were defeated ?) blank screen idiocy on
thinkpad.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i;m not dedicated enough
to getting old games
to run on
that
thinkpad
to chase
this further. i'll just use a different box.
mircea_popescu: sadly heroes suffers from
the same problems of poker, can't play more
than 2.
mircea_popescu: like we used
to do in lieu of highschool, however many people sign up,
then
they're randomly paired and play small maps,
then
the winners randomly paired play mediums,
then etc.
mircea_popescu: we should probably have a heroes 2
tournament
this winter.
mircea_popescu: i wiped
the logs,
turned
the program on, it killed my gfx, i logged into
tty2, stopped x, restarted x,
this was
the only log present.
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's pretty obvious someone magicnumbered something because i have
the distinct impression gfx works fine just offscreen.
mircea_popescu: ie, not documented in
the sense of documented ("here's how
the fridge works") but documented in
the sense of functional usage for illiterates ("here's how
the fridge door opens and what happens most
times when it does")
mircea_popescu: as much as his pcengine link is.
the "how
to run geth" level.
mircea_popescu: more and more it becomes evident
that whenever something's documented by
the open sores folk, it's always for a reason ; and
the reason is always ^
mircea_popescu: for
the record,
the repugnant pos
trashes
the box so
thoroughly i have
to log into
tty and stop/start x
mircea_popescu: "how do you use
this ?" "first, delete it" "oh i see."
mircea_popescu: chiefly because i can't conceive of a mapping between
the pile of
trash and a log file.
mircea_popescu: who. who keeps making logfiles with no notion of
time ? how is
this supposed
to work ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: oh holy shit Xorg.log has no
timestamps for
the lines. how
the fuck is anyone supposed
to make sense of
this crap.
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: they literally ran a bunch of sed, /holocaust/global warming/ /jews/racists/ whatever, same exact structure down
to
the
t.
mircea_popescu:
the history of bestnesses. Make it say
the old King and Queen are liars and villains but
the Marquess is a
truth-teller and a champion who has released
the world from sorrow forever. Make it say she is
the only one who can fix Fairyland and make it great."
mircea_popescu: look at it : "I shall
tell you what
the lion roared. It roared: you will make a new future in your stupid bowl, and it will say all
the
things we want it
to say and none of
the
things we do not!
The new future will say
that everything good in Fairyland is down
to us and everything
that goes sideways is down
to our enemies. It will say
that we are
the best people, with
the best plans, and
the best words, and
the best rulers in
mircea_popescu: anyway, it is somewhat refreshing
to see
the delusional dorks (self-identified as "liberals" or "progressives" or w/e) simpyl lift wholesale
the aggregate production of
the neonazis since
the 50s, change a few pronouns and bestseller-publish on
their oh-so-important notebooks.
mircea_popescu: then
they pen bizarre
tales about how "but how could we lose, mr unsanitary green"
mircea_popescu: zombies don't
tend
to notice what parts
they lose on
the way.
mircea_popescu: permanently disinterested me in entertaining
the imbeciles.