asciilifeform: meanwhile, diana_coman , lobbes , i'ma have to regrind the latest patch, it is defective (and not simply on acct of the double quotes thing) , apparently in 'a' of diff had wrong copy of MANIFEST .

asciilifeform: diana_coman: happens to asciilifeform regularly, in this swampy penal colony.

asciilifeform waits for word from the front.

asciilifeform back.

asciilifeform going towards tea, brb.

asciilifeform: aite.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: now, find that door. and if phone rings while yer fighting the guards, you can pick up.

asciilifeform: megabux -- in, bullshit -- out. this is actionable even in zimbabwe.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems to me that we're being elementarily defrauded, and that the very next thing to do will be to get whatever passes for attourney in that shithole.

asciilifeform: what kinda africa is this?!

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: so, you show up there with a copy of the fucking signed contract, and 0 doors will open?!

asciilifeform: or wat, we're paying $maxint, and this doesn't come with a fucking door to bang on?!

asciilifeform: find where. and go there. holyfuq.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dun tell me you dun even know where?!

asciilifeform: and how about the actually in-command bipeds ? they are in brazil or where ? why can't get to'em in person ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how come it has to be via phone ? i was in that thing, there was a glass box with bipeds in it

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo they have an office in there, don't they ? why are you stuck waiting for email replies ? go there

asciilifeform: ( why was diana_coman's 'we' able to digest the whole thing in <10min, and our 'we' takes 4days and still aint digested ? )

asciilifeform: cuz that 'we' dun seem to be worth a dime

asciilifeform: 'We are working on that with the ISP.' << who's 'the isp' ? antel ? can we cut out the layer of 'we' who 'are working with isp' ?!

asciilifeform waves to BingoBoingo

asciilifeform: atm it seems that not 1 single box is reachable.

asciilifeform: * not, say

asciilifeform: diana_coman: if BingoBoingo is in the cage nao, bazaring w/ latech, as was proclaimed ( and not, saw, cowering in a hole ) i expect today we'll get something resembling an answer.

asciilifeform: exactly as latech would have if it were run by people and not monkeys

asciilifeform: diana_coman: right

asciilifeform: unsurprising tho, ddostron likely switched to the remaining working ips, and the latech derps added them also to blackhole.

asciilifeform: grr

asciilifeform: apparently whole orchestra dead in water? BingoBoingo are you alive in there ? wtf ?

asciilifeform: ditto qntra

asciilifeform: diana_coman: hrm last i was at console, ossasepia was reachable. but nao indeed not!!!

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941253 << this, however, mistake. does not 'feel better'. asciilifeform in fact maintains a list of various where mp told him 'yer incorrigible idjit and hands grow from arse', it is quite long.

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941254 << asciilifeform also not wwwist, but had to pick up e.g. the logotron, because no one else stood up. this is what happens when dire shortage of manpower.

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941252 << asciilifeform is not the manager , even if has been forced to pick up the grenade , BingoBoingo is still in that chair. and as mp aptly observes, asciilifeform is approx same grade of manager as he is violinist.

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941240 << this is entirely good q.

asciilifeform: i'm persuaded that the latech dummkopfs ~also~ have nfi what is pcap.

asciilifeform: and holyfuq, just 8 ?!!! and the fucking orcs put ~destination~ in blackhole, and not the 8 sources?!!!

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941224 << can i persuade diana_coman to share that pcap ? dulap ended up unplugged just before i could set up tcpdump on it .

asciilifeform wakes up, tests, dulap still lost in space .

asciilifeform goes to horizontal again, must bbl

asciilifeform: this is tru

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plz equip diana_coman w/ wahtever spare ips available.

asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo . re the rest , mp_en_viaje has it 100% , atm we dun even know wtf this was

asciilifeform: ( when dulap last was up, meant )

asciilifeform was in the midst of setting up a (dulap-side, hence would say nuffin re ~total mass~, but at least sumthing re ~type~) probe , but did not live long enuff to finish.

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1941098 << yes !!

asciilifeform: atm asciilifeform is without capability of deploying or even properly testing logotron patches.

asciilifeform: if diana_coman or lobbes get to this 1st, i will later sign & mirror the patch .

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it was on asciilifeform's chalkboard, but in the cacophony of disconnectism etc neglected it .

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it has to come back out.

asciilifeform: turns out it's 100% broken

asciilifeform: the 'shlex' thing.

asciilifeform: will have to revert it by removing the double-quote support and making from scratch, asciilifeform tried, like complete chump, to use a built-in py knob for it

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1941077 << looks like this bug i ~introduced~ in 'sept_fixes', not fixed

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1941071 << loox like.

asciilifeform goes to lie down for a spell, is feeling ill, brb.

asciilifeform: at this pt i'ma take whatever advice mp_en_viaje offers , re how to work these.

asciilifeform: a

asciilifeform currently forming impression that mp_en_viaje dun even wants to wait for latech call, or e.g. these , and that time to evacuate ?

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: he's the renamed d00d. iirc was originally this, aha

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i aint actually disagreeing in re 'must sell'. but pointing out that also must have ~what~ to sell.

asciilifeform: ( hence why asciilifeform set to work to build a 15 unit 2nd rk plant )

asciilifeform: the rk was the 1 product where demand outstripped supply consistently.

asciilifeform: which was being built ( on asciilifeform's desk , needs still the ssds ) but now nowhere for it to live.

asciilifeform: there were ( BingoBoingo may have exact # ) several people queued for rk.

asciilifeform: and having ~what~ to sell

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i dun have any experience selling phantoms

asciilifeform: can't sell boxen that aint there.

asciilifeform: again what sales process, when naught to sell.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: dun fughet where bv ended up delivering a crate for the cost of 3

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: nao, fast-fwd, mp_en_viaje in effect owns piz (there's ~no piz if mp_en_viaje & co not subscribed, working pipe or not ) .

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it was 50/50 tbf / asciilifeform .

asciilifeform: mod6 (at first as an act of tbf, but then bought back personally) + asciilifeform , bought, 50/50

asciilifeform: correct

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: recall how asciilifeform ended up with the job to start with ?

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i haven't the capital to take it out, or a where-to.

asciilifeform: he's peddling stock 'dells' with mandatory ipmi.

asciilifeform: it takes a year to get handful of boxes built and carried in. because in uy. (where, again will remind, asciilifeform had no part in putting it)

asciilifeform: right but elementarily did not have the capital or the manpower to start with other than 1 rack and handful of irons.

asciilifeform: which here

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there, also , and where mp: 'we'll have 25 locations, 25 racks' etc

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: my current take, is that any adventure in republican isp, regardless where located , is a walk between scylla and charybdis .

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: this. and ftr i still think it would have been mistake. just a different mistake.

asciilifeform digging

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: oddly enuff, this scheme is ~exactly asciilifeform's orig. alternative when objected in '17 to mp_en_viaje's 'we need whole isp, with whole cage'

asciilifeform: and when a disk needs swap ? he flies ?

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i know you don't liek to read castles, but this thread b/w asciilifeform and diana_coman's heathen isp man is pertinent.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the more 'exotic' iron is the fact that all of the iron lives in a cabinet operated by BingoBoingo , and not touched by unknown apes.

asciilifeform: there's several people on rk who have FG.

asciilifeform: i think moar than 40

asciilifeform: ~none. but mp_en_viaje asked.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: we made 2 parties of 100 , net 200 . 1st party sold immediately to dpb. 2nd sold to a variety of people, leaving the 36 that went to piz and a half dozen emergency spares kept in asciilifeform's desk.

asciilifeform: ( re FG )

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: shall i post'em ? i dun think was ever fully laid in public

asciilifeform: and yes, republicans are there because republic. if republic wants isp, will have to devise how, out of what.

asciilifeform: likewise , mp_en_viaje's smg specifically landed there because wanted FG colo'd (in fact before asciilifeform had anyffin to do with the proj)

asciilifeform: diana_coman , for instance.

asciilifeform: the rk people are specifically there because they do not want 'rando vps'.

asciilifeform: what to sell if iron is packed ?