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Mallstromm: of course I don't have coins of Gox. Only a retard or a poor clueless noob would have at this time
Mallstromm: cazalla: do i look like a fucking retard?
azi`: not that i'd know
jurov: yes i know. just wondered something happened in last 2 hours
azi`: http://i.imgur.com/rPTRxiG.png
azi`: i.e disabled trading
Neil: I guess you can't say much when you fled Japan over the weekend.
KRS-One: http://i.imgur.com/0sjXzpT.gif
Monarch03: I am in #bitcoin-assets-trades for tradefeed, but i dont want to see trades of different stocks, only NEOBEE
mjr_: i mean...
Monarch03: guys, can I somehow filter messages from @assbot only for HAVELOCK NEOBEE trades? I dont want to see anything else on bitcoin-assets-trades
mjr_: i mean of a billion dollars
mjr_: i mean, i never thought their shortfall would be a 3/4 of a billion bitcoins though
mjr_: but i don't know anything about it
mjr_: we were reaching out to them, with some people who i won't name
mjr_: i mean 100,000 verified accounts is worth something
mjr_: i was involved with a few people trying to make that happen
mjr_: <evidence of you being wrong> well...i guess thats true <switch to subject x++>
cerelenius: i come in here once awhile to troll mircea
mjr_: what i meant was "i'm not worried about mircea"
cerelenius: im not concerned with mircea, as i said hes clever
mjr_: we can hopefully bring you up to speed with enough links i guess
cerelenius: i mean thats what its there for
cerelenius: like i said mircea is to clever to actually bust out
cerelenius: no i wasnt here
mjr_: while i look for the ignore command
mjr_: i just can't deal with the stupidity any longer
mjr_: sorry i am going to ignore cerelenius now
mjr_: i saw it
mjr_: i've done it
mjr_: i could show you a place that will do it right now
mjr_: i have the right BUT NOT THE OBLIGATION
mjr_: tell me how i can't
mjr_: i do it everyday
mjr_: and the exchange rate changed i could "take a loss"
mjr_: if i bought servers from china
cerelenius: dignork: i agree the payment network(blockchain) is excellent
cerelenius: i twont be bitcoin lol
mjr_: i think you are mixing up a numeraire with something else
dignork: i didn't settlem coffe shop did
dignork: cerelenius, you with your settlement, i got btc and payed it for a coffe
mjr_: i don't care what they do after i paid for the product i purcahsed
cerelenius: and i broke down who is settling in btc
mjr_: i can "map" the number of bitcoins onto any number of things
mjr_: things i may want to buy
dignork: cerelenius i used btc to move small amount of cash between two coutries
mjr_: i get an apple
mjr_: i send bitcoin
mjr_: if i wanted an apple
cerelenius: i already explained bitcoin has 2 sources of demand 1) speculative and 2) settlement, break down what settlement means and you get mostly black market activities and maybe 5% of little bits and pieces
mjr_: i have no clue if he understand that
mjr_: its supposed to represent a certain portion of actual things in the real world which i may want
dignork: cerelenius so if i pay wages in BTC it will implode? elaborate
mjr_: i could buy 210,000 worth of doge coin
mjr_: if i want some of the stuff, i trade some of the stuff i have
mjr_: i may want some of it
mjr_: i used it to hammer nails
mjr_: i saw a hammer that thought it was a screwdriver
cerelenius: mjr: no i dont think that, the system does hence its FLAW
mjr_: you seem to think, and correct me if i'm wrong, that money serves a purpose outside of me buying things with it
cerelenius: mjr one thing i know is youll be poor and stupid forever
mjr_: that is what you don't get...if i took away 90% of the wealth of the entire world...the system wouldn't have changed at all
mjr_: i dno't care
mjr_: i have heard of 0 countries being removed from the planet because they went broke
mjr_: like if i print more, but still have the same basket of goods, at a certain point, i can buy more
cerelenius: jurov yes i know i said that already.
mjr_: if i print a trillion
mjr_: i think that must be it
mjr_: its like i can still buy a hamburger for a nickel
mjr_: i mean
cerelenius: i told you i can throw trillions of dollars around and nothing happens
mjr_: no, i think that the market sets their value
mjr_: to the extent i want dollars, i will allow people to pay me in dollars
jurov: i never had any
jurov: cerelenius how did i benefit from dollars?
mjr_: i am not seeing the difference
mjr_: or i guess to put it in simple terms "to the extent to which someone wants a currency, based on how much of it there is, that will define its value"
Vexual: you're not trolling, i wrote the book. you have personality disorder
cerelenius: i explained to you what gives dollars a bid
mjr_: you do realize i could cease accepting dollars tomorrow right?
chetty: I am curious, why come here and argue cerelenius, whats in it for you?
mjr_: which is why i think they say US on them
cerelenius: dignork: the same way bitcoin will because of what i outlined earlier in the chat. a tiny tiny % of holders will be filthy rich while everyone else is filthy poor
mjr_: if i want to sell my car
mjr_: he paid for our coffees using fiat if i remember correctly
mjr_: and i've seen him do it
mjr_: i will sell my products for the amount of currency i want
mjr_: i do as well
chetty: I settle with btc, and I am not a criminal either
cerelenius: dignork what did i say?
dignork: cerelenius i'm not a "cybercriminal" and for some transactions I settle for btc, problem?
cerelenius: dignork: im talking about nobody settles for anything other then fiat at the moment in btc, OTHER then those groups i outlined
Apocalyptic: cerelenius, i lol'd
mjr_: i don't care
mjr_: and get the product i wanted
mjr_: i pay with the currency i chose
mjr_: i again, don't care
mjr_: what did i get?
mjr_: what did i pay with?
mjr_: i could give two shits what happens between me paying bitcoin and getting the product i want