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joecool: goal to be open? yeah ok, they said absolutely nothing about the other half, didn't ship it with a flasher
fluffypony: thestringpuller: "how can an app be real without a GUI?????" - Windows user
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/22/energy_economics_coal/ << tis a suprisingly abundant planet, this.
bitcoinpete: a very expensive lottery
davidlatapie: davout: this is really a shame that b-c closes. The only exchange to be fully compliant with EU regulations and be completely located in the Eurozone :(
davout: that would constitute a yes
Apocalyptic: the point is the bet outcome is controlled by a single individual
Apocalyptic: isn't this a badbet ?
fluffypony: takes a bit of getting used to
BingoBoingo: Yeah, some bear dude. I don't think it was the scam enabling moderator one. All I know is later they fucked themself by buying a bunch of block erupters.
BingoBoingo: jurov: Yeah, there was someone on Bitcointalk buying batches and paying without issue so I unloaded them that way instead of waiting for a market.
BingoBoingo: In other news after a month of ineffective bullshit Trimethoprim/sulfamethoxazole as me pretty much healed up.
benkay: wywialm: haven't seen you in a while - how many months of logs are you reading?
wywialm: ThickAsThieves: if you plan to consider something connected with money when designing (economic) systems, you may want to have a look at "Theory of monetary institutions" by Lawrence White
princessnell: <ThickAsThieves> what i'm working on, includes a suggestion that there are multiple types of economies, each with roles/strengths << going from here, the types and properties are determined by the gene/culture interaction of the group that acts upon it
ThickAsThieves: and thus some definitions of properties of economies, with some epectation of each property's effect on a design
princessnell: basically: the endogeneity becomes a lot more managable when viewed from an evolutionary lense
princessnell: the properties of a unique economy are inextricable from the social behaviors of the humans who influence and are influenced by it
danielpbarron: lol what's a good alternative
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danielpbarron: not sure how to dump the errors into a file
assbot: In which Peter Singer investigates a basement flood - Existential Comics
princessnell: (thermoeconomists extend this point more literally, but i think it's better as a mental model)
princessnell: it's a bit hard for me to separate
ThickAsThieves: a game of life kind of thing with economies as organisms or whatever
ThickAsThieves: what i'm working on, includes a suggestion that there are multiple types of economies, each with roles/strengths
danielpbarron: do we need a contract or do you trust me?
danielpbarron: yikes, a bit steep for me; i was gonna offer 0.1
ThickAsThieves: well, I see weaknesses in that it contains itself within each of its requires elements, and that there is aguably a lack of distinction between the punishment gazette and the forum
thestringpuller: fluffypony: yea I think that story is a good textbook example of "true love" or what have you
fluffypony: thestringpuller: btw, watched that clip with the wife, was a little teary at the end :)
danielpbarron: what would be a decent bounty to offer for someone to figure out how to compile ssss-0.5 on openbsd 5.5?
ThickAsThieves: it probably all boils down to something super simple, like a basic physics concept
ThickAsThieves: this began a common thread through other observations about bitcoin and systems
asciilifeform: buy nothing that wasn't penned by mr. a personally
asciilifeform: people buy something with 'triz' in the title, and get... a turd
ThickAsThieves: i line a repeated a few times at the bitcoin conference: "You can't remove trust from transactions, you can only design it to be where you prefer it"
jurov: extract more absolute observations << a fool's errand
princessnell: I'm writing about that right now so I'm a bit anchored :)
princessnell: ThickAsThieves I'd think human psychology would factor into those questions as well. Thinking Fast and Slow would be a good start.
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: RE: Not representing mining in any broad way. << You did operate assets that correlated to hashpower, so I just kinda figured you were a "mining something" you know?
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: the english translation is a bit clunky but still eminently worth it.
pankkake: I don't think creating a new coin is an honest attitude
asciilifeform: and the number of people capable of writing a true from-scratch (vs. cribbed) alt is probably single-digit.
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin does at least have a system for adapting
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting for a hypothetical altchain that is neither a joke, nor retarded
asciilifeform: (a year and a half ago, when i wrote about it, it may have been)
ThickAsThieves: having a large proportion of the money isnt a problem per se
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: let's say they all get sold tonight. at this point, this may not be a 'death'
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: please try to think of a scenario where a weakness (in the usual sense) turns up, but does not kill classic btc and its alts simultaneously.
ThickAsThieves: doesnt nvidia have a suitable card yet?
ThickAsThieves: <+asciilifeform> ThickAsThieves: if ECDSA pops, afaik all known coins go with it /// lotsa ways to kill a coin
pankkake: yeah, it is both a stupid intention, and an impossible goal
pankkake: address VERSION. because satoshi is a genius, he thought about future problems already
BingoBoingo: Apparently having a blog helps
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I was just reading about that today (in the context of "Bitcoin will die because quantum computer!!!111") - general idea is that a hard fork to something different if quantum computing was imminent would solve that
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Yeah, maybe a couple weeks ago at the latest.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: in this specific case I don't know if you can call it an altcoin; it shares no common code with Bitcoin and has a completely different protocol / way of storing the blockchain / etc.
fluffypony: benkay: that's moot, I'm already heavily invested in BTC (the equivalent of "learn Common Lisp" by analogy), finding Monero interesting and possibly worthwhile does not change my position on BTC but is, rather, a direct result of the knowledge already accumulated
benkay: that differs from the rest of the crop by one or a couple features is
benkay: A "new" languagewait hang on asciilifeform i'm thinking about
ThickAsThieves: and last I heard that was a losing proposition too
jurov: <thestringpuller> is there a legit ltc/btc exchange? << x-bt.com but there's no volume :(
ThickAsThieves: unless you wanna run a AM franchise at least
ThickAsThieves: also, it's a pretty powerless board
ThickAsThieves: yes, i was on AM board, but that's falling a bit out of the context I was mentioned in
ThickAsThieves: <+thestringpuller> ThickAsThieves was a great mining representative but he exited the mining space. /// I dont think I ever represented mining in any broad way. Never sold or represented any hardware or tech.
Apocalyptic: thestringpuller> is there a legit ltc/btc exchange? // x-bt.com
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fluffypony: had a discussion with gmaxwell a few days ago about ring signatures, and he agrees that it could be done in a kludgy way in BTC, but it's an unlikely thing to happen, so Monero will possibly carve out a nice niche among the darknet markets crowd
fluffypony: everything else I will dabble in, but I'm in and out within a month or two at the most
thestringpuller: fluffypony: do you have a long term supply of LTC or are you exiting?
fluffypony: BTC is the highest by volume by a wide margin
fluffypony: that's a list by volume
thestringpuller: looks like it may be easier to just buy a shit ton of LTC cash and then liquidate it into btc
thestringpuller: is there a legit ltc/btc exchange?
fluffypony: they spend a fortune on their credit card when BTC is spiking
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves was a great mining representative but he exited the mining space.
danielpbarron: obviously it's not all a scam, but everything i see talked about seems to be a scam
Apocalyptic: (those I know who have a WoT that is)
thestringpuller: it seems every miner that comes into btc-assets turns into a scammer
thestringpuller: yea. there really should be a better miner consortium tho
thestringpuller: like a pallet of bills
thestringpuller: what if you needed a large sum?
fluffypony: thestringpuller: nah couldn't be bothered to buy an ASIC that's going to turn into a paperweight in 8 months
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: cool - I'm busy putting together an integration guide for exchanges, after spending a few hours fighting with the RPC API (still plenty raw) so will send that on to you when done
Apocalyptic: ty fluffypony, will have a look at it
fluffypony: they have a tendency to go away randomly
fluffypony: and sell on a pump
fluffypony: I'll hold for a bit
fluffypony: all the rigs are off atm, got a few EC2 instances mining Monero but will switch them off in a few days
fluffypony: thestringpuller: only as a side-effect
fluffypony: we have a Darth Vader bear from it
thestringpuller: a few weeks ago when she was mad at me
thestringpuller: I built a bear for my girlfriend there
fluffypony: did you go to Build a Bear?
thestringpuller: but everyone needs a hug sometime
fluffypony: thestringpuller: yes, lulls you into a false sense of security
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: Monero, but as its not forked from Bitcoin its a bit of a bitch to integrate
fluffypony: moiety: "A good way to handle idiots on call centers is btw to just hang up and call again, repeat until you have someone on the line that actually acts like a human." - because what I love most of all is sitting on hold for another 23 minutes.