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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 30k buys jpm a senator. it buys a somali 100k rounds of 7.62x39. it buys you: a toyota. << this is not exactly correct tho. consider : i have three girls, they kinda like each other. like-like. they share an appartment, we sometimes fuck. the whole shebang costs me maybe 30k a year. prolly less.
benkay: i stand up and talk about esoteric shit for twenty minutes, go talk to these dudes, they buy me drinks all night and tell me war stories about breaking relatives out of the shah's basement gaeol
mircea_popescu: didn't i just say that above re twitter ?
benkay: i don't fucking get it
mircea_popescu: i am 12 and what is sarcasm ?
benkay: i hope you're picking up on the sarcasm around 'business model and shit'
mircea_popescu: benkay i meant culturally not economically.
benkay: i actually may have hammered into the heads of some folks that maybe the 'dev team' is a joke
benkay: hey so i did this talk on lisp tonight
mircea_popescu: i guess i ended up self-employed in a consulting capacity. again.
benkay: i thought you got out of the consulting game!
mircea_popescu: well obviously i'm not discussing that.
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if i were the only one.
mircea_popescu: ok. suppose i hire you to do this job. now you have to make 100k posts a day from supposedly 100k different handles on 1mn forums.
benkay: no no you see i am actually retarded
mircea_popescu: o i thought you had got it lol.
benkay: like i'm five
benkay: okay, i'm an idiot!
mircea_popescu: i can attack both with the same math.
mircea_popescu: i start sifting the data and spot patters
mircea_popescu: benkay perhaps ? it is i confess one of the foremost riddles in my head.
mircea_popescu: so i have no idea what gives in there.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: i already suspect major news comment sections to be riddled with fake anti-bitcoin sentiments << this is probably true just on the general instinct of the beast, meaning that on some level welfare-dependent scum writing the stuff is aware bitcoin will kill it and wants to survive.
mircea_popescu: basically twitter is what i always wanted as a kid in school : a chance to spy on the losers conversations.
mircea_popescu: i fucking love the bs bios they coime up with
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yzbhg/bitstamps_bank_refused_to_open_me_a_bank_account/ i'd like to highlight davout's peformance here instead
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's even that to be honest, it's more like a quest to belong.
mircea_popescu: well i'm not arguing more people writing is a bad thing.
Apocalyptic: I'm not arguing that :)
mircea_popescu: "This meeting triggered a chain reaction of events in which the solicited investors rebuffed Karpeles and his colleagues" vs "Feb 23 12:23:59 <mircea_popescu>may be that they've found a sucker, but that story'll end if i find him too."
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, i wasn't aware of the "Mandalah Consulting" part
mircea_popescu: i mean either epoxy or seals, can these both work in any sense ?
mircea_popescu: and diametric too i guess : does that make any sense ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: fwiw I don't believe USG is capable of any meaningful banning of bitcoin << that'd depend on the definition of meaningful,
ozbot: Twitter / CharlieShrem: Can I bet on myself? "Charlie ...
the20year1: I was involved in a decently sized digital currency long before bitcoin, and the IRS just told them to issue 1099c to everyone who participated, the barter clause has been around for 50+ years
the20year1: IRS i imagine will/can treat bitcoin just like transactions or barter
ThickAsThieves: i suspect the word bitcoin in your taxes will put you on some list
ThickAsThieves: ^ i'm not sure about that
decimation: As to asciilifeform's point about outbidding the fiat printers, I think that's quite possible in an environment where bitcoin is melting up
decimation: I agree with TAT, I think the USG is too weak to actually ban bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: i do not expect the US to ban it at all
ThickAsThieves: I believe merchant adoption is just a malformed precursor to the 100% Pure Bitcoin Closed Loop Movement
diametric: I kind of want it to be that, because thats just hilarious
Diablo-D3: I thought it was 1m min
twizt: i thought it was 100k
ThickAsThieves: i just have real difficulty imagining the USG's ability and story of how it may ban crypto
duduqa: but I ask myself if it might take generations to happen
duduqa: I am a deep believer of bitcoin/crypto's ultimate success
ThickAsThieves: i guess thats just whats on record
ThickAsThieves: i know you dont like them, but i'd love to donate to your campaign
asciilifeform: i'll repeat what i've said in the past:
ThickAsThieves: i already suspect major news comment sections to be riddled with fake anti-bitcoin sentiments
diametric: duduqa: i think you'd be surprised the number of people that pirate content.
duduqa: asciilifeform: I can easily imagine agents infiltrated in facebook groups to refrain people
asciilifeform: i believe this is called 'controlled buy' by u.s. polizei
ThickAsThieves: put it on my grave i guess
ThickAsThieves: i'm not waiting for anything but my wife to take me seriously
ThickAsThieves: i know it would be the last straw for me
ThickAsThieves: furthermore, i believe hostility towards such innovation truly will lead to exodus
duduqa: asciilifeform: I never played poker, so I was not aware of the tremendous resources usg spent fighting against it
duduqa: asciilifeform: the question i ask is "would the adoption from small places such as cyprus, or Honduras ZEDEs, or African regions be enough to bring such wealth and power to overcome bitcoin's adversaries?"
duduqa: asciilifeform: I see them everyday, and it drives me pretty depressed
ThickAsThieves: i don't believe it is agile enough to anything meaningful quickly enough to matter
duduqa: as disruptive to politics/government/central banks as bitcoin can be, I expect it to be treated and regarded as pedophilia in a short time
ThickAsThieves: fwiw I don't believe USG is capable of any meaningful banning of bitcoin
duduqa: asciilifeform: I can also imagine a scenario in which such firewall happens to take place in the EU, China, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Russia, UAE, South America etc
duduqa: kakobrekla: I will carefully read, thank you
asciilifeform: duduqa: i can easily see a 'great firewall of usa' scenario
diametric: oh no. I just discovered archive.org's 42 gig mame collection.
duduqa: asciilifeform: sorry, I couldn't understand
duduqa: asciilifeform: I think so
cazalla: nfi, i'm a dimwit and just lurk
duduqa: basically what would be your expectations of the consequences of a formal US government (declaraton of) ban of bitcoin. Even as noob as I was, I do not fear stuff as ~bitcoin will die~
duduqa: may I ask a few questions?
duduqa: first of all, I'd like to excuse myself for some dumb stuff I might say...I have no tech nor economics formal background, interested in austrian economics as a hobbist
Bugpowder: I now have all of the pieces to the #mtgox puzzle. Mt. Gox acted alone and in desperation. Comprehensive post after I lawyer up.
mircea_popescu: i can't really comfortably read serbian fast enough to watch a movie
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've used the same us standard layout since the 80s.
kakobrekla: if you say write ass you speak and read as it is written, i say serbian
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, i'd say it's a good predictor of sovereignity really.
asciilifeform: now that you sounded it out, i'm pretty sure i heard it as a kid somewhere.
asciilifeform: (where this expression came from, i never knew)
kakobrekla: i have seen them with my own eyes and ears.
mircea_popescu: Цыганский год ahahaha ok that i've heard.
mircea_popescu: i never heard of it
asciilifeform: they actually have this pyramid-shaped oddity there, i'm told
mircea_popescu: when i said they're redoing bitcoinica i meant it.
Bugpowder: Is Mark actually using the I forgot the password defense?
ThickAsThieves: shit i forgot to get Bitcoin in there
mircea_popescu: i had 18 things on!
mircea_popescu: was less than the shit i wore.
ThickAsThieves: i saw hehe
mircea_popescu: o i was getting free fashion advice from some musical talent on twitter earlier
ThickAsThieves: i'm cool with either
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i did, on something awful. they had a series of aneurisms,
mircea_popescu: i mean... it's like a truck right ?
ThickAsThieves: i hope they have troll spray
mircea_popescu: i thought occupy was that.
ThickAsThieves: i like how bitcoin might be the first thing since Bill Clinton to get people under 35 to care about politics again