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benkay: <mircea_popescu> so you get mpex-audited float every time yoyu pay a dividend. << wait but as in the case of mpif, a malicious broker could issue more shares and not pay to that float, as mpex doesn't enforce that divs be paid to the whole float which you say is a feature but my tiny brain still percieves as a bug
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay: afaik there's no way to evaluate the float on mpex. you just gotta trust mircea_popescu. << no, this is why the dividend payments work the way they do. mpex will a) not let you pay fewer shares than there are and b) issue you a signed receipt which includes that number. << contract also spells it out.
asciilifeform: benkay: it was a sort of product now mostly extinct - pay, get complete source (naturally for in-house use only)
decimation: I stopped to watch at Farragut Square park, which is full of bums. The bums all gathered on the street to watch the procession. First, came 50 or so so policemen riding on Harleys. Next, a sad mob of a few hundred youths protesting the "prision state"
decimation: True story: once I was walking along a street in Washington, DC during some dumbass WTO protest or something
assbot: Putin's rockin' & rollin' on a Harley Trike - YouTube
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: and you two as well as anyone interested is invited to a full debate of this matter, to take place starting 8pm today << buddha, i'll be there. that is, here.
fluffypony: it's a 3PO
pankkake: that's a bit of an exaggeration
pankkake: this was hinted a few times as a replacement of conscription
pankkake: sadly it's mostly a belief those things exist
pankkake: it's a trap
bitcoinpete: the modern definition of freedom, that of economic security and material well being, is a very specific form of slavery
bitcoinpete: but if it's relative, which it is, then the usa sucks a boatload but is still freer than plenty o' places
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: eh not sure the us system is quite that dark a shade of gray
assbot: Modern Forms of Slavery Generate $150 Billion a Year in Profits for Exploiters - Real Time Economics - WSJ
bitcoinpete: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/05/19/modern-forms-of-slavery-generate-150-billion-a-year-in-profits-for-exploiters/
Mats_cd03: theres a product for everything
punkman: tourist idiots like to rent them around here, then they end up in a ditch with broken legs
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems to me like the pill against this is to drive an ordinary auto, rather than a peculiar tractor where you still get ejected into oncoming traffic at the slightest bump...
pankkake: I wonder if I'll ever squeeze in a block
mircea_popescu: ok and with that im caught up with the 23rd. omfg you people talk A LOT
mircea_popescu: gravy train coming to an end, in a decade nobody will even remember who bezos was.
mircea_popescu: o look at that, amazon being a little bitch.
asciilifeform: looked it up, they seem to cost about the same as a nice toyota
mircea_popescu: but perhaps... it's cheaper than a car and doesn't need your foot on the ground like a bike ?
asciilifeform: resembles a tractor more than anything else
asciilifeform: takes up a full lane, yet still the same crunchy death if you wreck it
asciilifeform: as i understand, all the down-sides of a normal auto and motorcycle in one package.
asciilifeform: of such a machine
mircea_popescu: "It has just been announced now that UTA, the union of bus drivers, will convoke a full strike for ALL buses(colectivos y micros , which means city and long distance buses) for this Wednesday, 28 May starting at 0000 in ALL OF ARGENTINA!."
asciilifeform: (fellow used to live in the house, unable to sell, ended up renting it out, quite possibly at a loss)
mircea_popescu: and if not it, a nice round bottom anyway.
mircea_popescu: and you two as well as anyone interested is invited to a full debate of this matter, to take place statring 8pm today, my time. which is roughly in nine hours. then maybe we can get to the bottom of it
mircea_popescu: princessnell: not exactly keep living, but maximize probability of the highest possible degree of genetic transmission. but you get my drift. << iget your drift, i just don't perceive any substance to it. can you prove your purpose is more to convey your own genetic material than to convey the genetic material of the e coli you're very comfortably keeping at a pleasant temperature deep inside, and strive to keep well
asciilifeform: most likely, nothing. just read a flow sensor somewhere.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the soviet tale didn't end there. i come back, trench is filled, sewer - same state. call bureaucrats, they promise to test. wake up, there's a note, claiming that 'tested, works, if still having problem, your problem.' i pick up phone, turns out the fellow testing had no idea there was pipe work at all. it was done by contractors, see, and the city 'had no idea.'
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't run a server on ubuntu, but if making a system for an ex windows person prolly still best choiuce,
mircea_popescu: gotta try around a little. as is typical of open source, diff things work for diff jobs.
asciilifeform: the result is pounded flat using a gigantic machine that sends shock waves everywhere
mircea_popescu: artifexd: I was thinking about Ubuntu but apparently they suck for reasons that are unclear to me. <<< dependency hell and a bad case of code rot.
asciilifeform: they also have this weird custom, where a trench of an active pipe project is filled in with asphalt every time, even if work is not done - because driving is sacred. must be drivable over.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: password is used in two places unfortunately two very important places << that was a pretty shitty password.
mircea_popescu: so you get mpex-audited float every time yoyu pay a dividend.
mircea_popescu: benkay: afaik there's no way to evaluate the float on mpex. you just gotta trust mircea_popescu. << no, this is why the dividend payments work the way they do. mpex will a) not let you pay fewer shares than there are and b) issue you a signed receipt which includes that number.
mircea_popescu: hl et all or else do half a bitcoin's trade out of 500 idjits.
mircea_popescu: benkay: I was thinking of starting a general shorting fund - sell shares that mimic shares in every way (pay same divs, buyback at vwap after X months). sell the shares at a discount to make them more appealing than real shares << mpex did this early on, but it was a political move to crush the idiots that thought they can make a glbse club. i doubt it'll be financially productive, you'll either fake volume a la btct
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: there honestly aren't enough hours in a day to document "all the scams" << he may well have a pooint.
asciilifeform: usa is a very peculiar animal
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, suggestion : move to istanbul for the week. free airfare if hyou got the miles, like 100 a night for downtown hotel
asciilifeform: more hilariously, when first discovered the problem, tried to decamp to a hotel. 9 hotels, all booked.
mircea_popescu: a special truck arives, there\'s like nine men in my house, all fighting with the bathroom
mircea_popescu: after a coupla hours the entire bathroom is taken apart, everyone's talking lively in phones
mircea_popescu: he tries some basic maneuvers of a slightly more elevated hardcoreness
mircea_popescu: someone should make a youtube app whereby the person inserts the metallic dongle up their butt
asciilifeform: soviet states of a.
mircea_popescu: or is he giving the informant a 50%+.1 sort of deal ?
mircea_popescu: pfoah so random comment on trilema brought to fore an article that's like... exceptional. http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce-s-nesuferiti-tehnicienii/ i gotta have this translated. any romanian speakers (preferably not native) looking for a job ?
mircea_popescu: this part is not negotiable, i don't give a shit how special anyone thinks anyone is. each and every last one sec comissioner, president or prime minister, everyone must, no matter what, getr in wot and so on.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: like the PoW is the defining factor << the pow is a defining factor, what you on about ?
BingoBoingo: A lot of the seasonal gulls are starting to find their way here up the Mississippi.
chetty: pigeons in Turkey do that a lot
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: why don't they call it a PoCathon << ahaha you're one step off getting your own nbc show. "the bowl is round, the mug is round, why not call it roundtine"
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: Vacathon! << that's when you go on a cow tipping spree all over the world.
chetty: BingoBoingo, nothing wrong with cards, I used em for a very long time, still do for some stuff
mircea_popescu: moiety: I have been on 0 business trips. I used to work in a hospital lol << start saving for argentina next year ? :D
mircea_popescu: i came across a test scrap today and realized that i spelled the word "redeem" wrong on every single one <<< aaa-hahahaha. YOU NEED AN EDITOR!!1
mircea_popescu: (for the interested public :argentina has a bit of an inflation problem, officially peso is 8.58 to the dollar, most anyone will take 9, generally you get about 11 from specialised exchangers. which are of course illegal, so there's five billion of them screaming in the streets - something the argentines don't do for anything else)
mircea_popescu: (and they make a point of writing o nthe door they take dollars at 11.5
mircea_popescu: chetty, btw, take you out for a steak ? we're meeting lospantalones at noonish
mircea_popescu: btw, wouldn't you be affraid of a woman that keeps making supercute dough things it then BITES THE HEADS OFF ?
chetty: mircea_popescu, I am sure we will soon be at the meal in a pill stage, chewing is probably bad for you
fluffypony: btw mircea_popescu did you read about the OpenRigs customer that is apparently a secret agent or have you not got to that part in the logs yet?
davout: "farts at a bean soup convention" <<< hahaha
mircea_popescu: AS IF this wasn't fucking predictable as farts at a bean soup convention
mircea_popescu: may we please have a blow by blow of how the blow blows, mr frenchfry!
fluffypony: ;;rate assbot 1 the A in assbot stands for AMAZING
pankkake: ;;rate fluffypony 1 who wouldn't trust a pony
fluffypony: ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 dons a dapper suit whilst dishing out devilish advice and Bitcoins
davout: pankkake: come have coffee, get a rating
pankkake: I don't really have a reason to get good ratings
fluffypony: "has OCD and is a clown. do not do business"
mircea_popescu: pankkake, i've noticed there's a hard wall where people who are trustworthy and well known but who don't do anything major are about 1.x on average, even if over 100 raqtings
BigBitz: do they /actually/ trust each other or do they just want a +v ? :)
BigBitz: It's more akin to spamming than a reflection of trust, really.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: doesn't have a purpose or an intent or a role. it simply is << ever play the '80s game 'M.U.L.E.' ? << no i haven't. for my shame and to my detriment, it turns out!
mircea_popescu: this is absurd, calling a woman on the phone is jerky ? that's the anti-jerky.
mircea_popescu: you can give her a call.
fluffypony needs a whisky and it's only 1:35pm
davout: kakobrekla: bc was a fake all along, having never provably started it can therefore not provably stop operating, and its volume has always been imaginary, therefore it can't drop, therefore bet resolves as 'No'
Apocalyptic: doesn't contradict the fact he has a point imo
kakobrekla: <jurov> and since the domain itself will be redirected to paymium where you can log in with your old creds // you have a point < he does not. someone can hax bcentral, steal the logins, redirect it to some x site using the stolen logins. would fit description.
Apocalyptic: <jurov> and since the domain itself will be redirected to paymium where you can log in with your old creds // you have a point
punkman: I don't see why a simple name change is a problem
fluffypony: davout: so now that bitcoin-central is going to cease to exist in its current form, does that mean the bet is a yes?
benkay: i do a lot of illegal things.
mircea_popescu: gotta have a brain first :D
Mats_cd03: this is your chance to coin a phrase
benkay: how would one draw a distinction between, say Ethereum, Bitcoin and Monero?
dub: sounds a bit like lopher? :)