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gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 29 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> A good deal of Uncharted is written in LISP.
nubbins`: round up some teenagers and a machete and you've got yourself a movie
BingoBoingo: Saw interesting creature on the road today. Alligator snapping turtle of roughly a meter in shell circumfrence.
mircea_popescu: which is a seinfeld reference.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: I have to imagine some of your neighbors are probably stockpiling BTC to fund a reconquest of Rhodesia
BingoBoingo: benkay: Are they supposing I want to fuck a hurricaine?
princessnell: or: proof that god is a vengeful woman
princessnell: a microaggression with macro consequences
fluffypony: benkay: I have a fax to email number
benkay: do any of you have a fax number at which i could receive some faxes maybe but probably not?
fluffypony: "You made a thread here and what did you expect ? people would congradulate you for doing everything wrong ? keep reading your "how to make a web wallet book" you pathetic tool."
kakobrekla: a.
fluffypony: "Reached by phone Monday afternoon, Slaughter was unaware of Kander's news release but said it must have been part of a settlement his lawyers were working on with the office. He said he also expects to have to pay a fine."
asciilifeform: Naphex: that's what i did last time i had an entirely unconstrained design (a lab automation system, controlling robot & various scientific instruments attached to it)
fluffypony: Twitter's having a field day: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpJXGeiIMAAP7If.jpg
Naphex: asciilifeform: what would be your default language for writing a multi-threaded backend, with lots of sockets and nio?
asciilifeform: fluffypony: one hint, in the past, was that apple clearly indicated a desire to see 'gcc' die in a fire
asciilifeform: from apple's point of view - it isn't quite enough to have an effective vendor lock-in through obj. c and the mac api - it is necessary to breed programmers who can't even -think- on a competing platform.
fluffypony: Apple is releasing a new programming language
thestringpuller: A good deal of Uncharted is written in LISP.
asciilifeform: i did get a number of people playing with fpga (the closest thing to 'freedom' in this context, that i know of) who perhaps wouldn't have otherwise.
asciilifeform: (summary of some of the obstacles in the way of any serious attempt to ditch legacy crud while remaining even a little bit commercially viable)
asciilifeform: IMAP, X, ... A huge amount of work, but if you don’t honor the standards
asciilifeform: 'To be a viable computer system, one must honor a huge list of
asciilifeform: only recently we ended up with x86 boxes fast enough to disregard the performance hit from high-level languages on a cpu without hardware type-tagging
asciilifeform: diametric: this is sort of why i bring up my long-term research only when asked about it. and at other times, work with whatever materials are available in the jungle i inhabit, in a way that mostly makes sense to people.
jurov: i have quite a few friends that got into programming in their teens and have done impressive demos
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin suddenly opened the gate. It is a poisonous offering. You are grossly unequipped to interact straight with the refuse of Western society. Accepting investors with fortunes under a million dollars or whatever the limit was placed for US citizens may make sense. Accepting investors with fortunes under any arbitrary value and simultaneously wits under any arbitrary threshold is not a sound business plan but a str
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mircea_popescu: nubbins`: they see it as "bitcoin isn't ready for apple" << they're right, too. i don't have a mpoe-pr large enough to swat all the fucktarded us consumers thinking they'r eentitled to shit because their govt paid me taxes or something
mike_c: those were actually off by a factor of 10, but they all were so it doesn't really matter.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: pankkake: ipo USD/share: $0.33, 2po: $0.345, current: $0.227 << o wow srsly ? for some reason i had it in my head they started at a 25cents
asciilifeform: jurov: olpc was a microshaft brainwashing project (admitted as much! hence why it shipped with an x86 turd instead of a cheaper risc cpu)
asciilifeform: kickstarter works - when it works - for 'i want to make a bicycle drive shaft from hastalloy.' and other well-defined engineering problems.
asciilifeform: re: kickstarter: lol. suggested experiment: open a kickstart, with the headline 'pay my living expense for 20 years. in the end, you might get a useful gizmo if i live that long.'
benkay: jurov: my plan is to give 'em emacs on a barebones bsd machine with an irc connection to chat with me
asciilifeform: jurov: can you change a trabant into a toyota?
asciilifeform: situation was entirely analogous to the current one re: computing - in that the inferior technical solution would have been embraced readily by equipment makers, for whom the waste is a bonanza
asciilifeform: this was a very narrow escape.
asciilifeform: the distinction between source and object code is an evil thing, rather like leaded gasoline - ought to have gone away a generation ago.
asciilifeform: even on a very minimal machine, with a few kb of memory, it is possible to use a language like Forth - which preserves the semantics of the code, and has genuine repl.
asciilifeform: people who design baroque contraptions (ml, haskell, ocaml, go - tradition) for 'smarter compiler' - that ends up grinding the original semantics of a program into incomprehensible soup - as if god came and said to mortals to use pdp-11 forever - are solving the wrong problem.
asciilifeform: it is important to understand what a proper repl consists of. i.e. a bash loop that repeatedly calls a compiler is not a genuine repl.
diametric: and go does have a repl
asciilifeform: 'go' is funded by the same bozos who spend $billion on a company making GUI thermostats.
asciilifeform: benkay: and this reply to a reader asking about urbit (author of urbit was labouring under the same ill-conceived notions that produced haskell) - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390
asciilifeform: benkay: not a fan. see v. sedach's explanation: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=401
Naphex: if you're wondering how is that possbile, it ran a browser in full screen on the front-end
Naphex: but just for lulz, i once saw a embeddec computer for public transportation, written in php :)
mike_c: i will certainly give it a try.
Naphex: but picturing a 8-man dev team working on a project in lisp
benkay: i wrote a function last night that runs a job, every now and again
mike_c: i'm starting to think it might be that cool. it's on my list to learn when i have a spare minute.. so who knows when.
pankkake: many frameworks are more of a hassle to use than nothing, for sure
benkay: is it a satoshi? is it a btc? WHO KNOWS
pankkake: lol, I always have a bad feeling of "own frameworks"
benkay: jvm issues are unless i miss my read (which is possible and do correct me plz) along the lines of 'don't let people have access to your box and don't run java as a consumer'
benkay: <Mats_cd03> benkay: http://www.lispcast.com/clojure-web-security // i read that quite a while ago. a few kinda boil down to 'don't be retarded'.
pankkake: or as a way to reduce the hipster population
fluffypony: yay WWDC time, I'm hoping for a Macbook Pro Retina that is the size of a Macbook Air and has 20 hour battery life
nubbins`: here's a man in accra, paying cab fare with btc
assbot: I knew I couldn't build a cat - Everything2.com
asciilifeform: nubbins`: obligatory: http://everything2.com/title/I+knew+I+couldn%2527t+build+a+cat
nubbins`: had a consultation with the vet, chose a nice model
nubbins`: so pascale had this dream last night where she decided that she'd like to get a large dick sewn onto our female cat
gribble: Error: '#bitcoin-assets' is not a valid price input.
moiety: fluffypony: lol yup. i'm a bit scared. it's a lot bigger than i remember it.
pankkake: because it's clear it was never a btc investment
jurov shots a knowing glance to Naphex
mike_c: a straight republishing of someone else's work. that's one way to improve their site.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> imagine paying seventy thousand dollars to sit with a man for an hour << i can see that. what i can';t see is... bernanke ? srsly ?
fluffypony: "Mystery solved: this is a MtGox address. You sent 300 to it one year ago
pankkake: "Mystery solved: this is a MtGox address. You sent 300 to it one year ago
nubbins`: imagine paying seventy thousand dollars to sit with a man for an hour
assbot: A Lunch Date with Ben Bernanke for $70,500 | Bornrich
nubbins`: i'll probably do up the screens in the next day or so, and keep 'em around for a week or two
nubbins`: so i found a copy of the first canadian pressing of bob dylan's first album
nubbins`: even the strength of a man is no match for the mighty moose!
xmj: does anyone in the SEPA zone want to accept fiat and ship me a shirt to estonia?
nubbins`: 6! let me get you a shipping discount
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety hey would you like a shirt ?
mircea_popescu: 4 bitcents a shirt?
nubbins`: a bargain at twice the price
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: best description of a vulnerable mess with cool features you ever heard, too. this is because i both used to be into chicks with bunches of piercings, and also write code
fluffypony: she: "why doesn't someone just make a post and say that nobody must sell Bitcoin under $700, and then it will go up over $700?"
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla, http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ << doi the graphs stop like a week ago ?
fluffypony: speaking of "community", I had a charming conversation with my wife yesterday during the 4000 BTC dump
mircea_popescu: you can spot a us citizen a mile away by the way their brain stinks.
mircea_popescu: "I almost listed something on Cryptostocks, but think I will wait and reassess before I do. What we need as a community is to not accept these low standards of service. "
mircea_popescu: this being the advantage of having multiple minds involved, for the public, and this is what a liberal profession is : you get to make calls.
mircea_popescu: jurov:<mircea_popescu> [00:33:27] jurov, i see you +0.3 btc or so. << so i should value fmpif position at current offering sell price? << i've used the 30day average. seems reasonable valuation for a held security, but it's not mandatory, you can value whichever way you think reasonable.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: so essentially it's like a chick with a bunch of piercings << dude that\s tje best description of clojure i ever heard, and you don't even code.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation well, the DC part of argentina's "washington dc" is roughly the size of france. it's a huge country. as such, it's upper germania, illyricum, syria, v
mircea_popescu: but it allows cheap diagnosis of the means available for a critical process.
benkay: i guess i've just had really shitty experiences in picking up a lot of orm/database tangles
benkay: saved me a lot of work recently with simple stuff that works-as-expected like lazily moving the cursor through huge tables integrated with list comprehension in python
kakobrekla: johnnyguru had a nice test of this
asciilifeform: for that you need a soviet-style massive 1:1 transformer
kakobrekla: or if it drops a bit