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Neil: And boy do I look forward to the day I can travel the world and spend bitcoin. I think it's only 2 years away.
Neil: Of course, as a speculator I believe you'd benefit by holding, but I don't begrudge you deciding what to do with your own money. Hopefully vice versa.
blackwhite: well to be honest I am not so much interested in bitcoin as a currency but more as a technology. I don't mine but purely trade my services for bitcoin. So its all good
blackwhite: i am just saying thats an argument being put out there
blackwhite: Neil oh I am
Neil: blackwhite: I don't know where to start. Maybe start thinking for yourself and stop drinking the logical fallacies?
Neil: "Yeah the reason why I ask is. If for some reason suddenly 10million bit coins go lost that basically would mean the end of the currency" uhh please explain that big underspecified jump in logic.
blackwhite: i.e. it's not impossible to imagine large sums of bitcoin dissapear
blackwhite: Yeah the reason why I ask is. If for some reason suddenly 10million bit coins go lost that basically would mean the end of the currency, but couldn't that somehow be countered by splitting each bitcoin so we deal in satoshis instead? Asking because I can't wrap my head around that problem
Neil: The last 2 weeks are the first time in a long time at least 50% of the time I open blockchain.info it shows a block over 1hr old.
Neil: <mircea_popescu> Neil since you mentioned jtd, you ever read the original mpoe prospectus ? << I have, probably twice. What's the connection?
dub: I tell you
VanCleef: i'll remember that for next time mats
VanCleef: i sat with a guy for 8 hours at starbucks once and i ran out of things to talk about about an hour
VanCleef: i think so?
cads: I want to see a cryptocurrency backed in automated service provider contracts
cads: Duffer1: I've not heard of reicoin yet (I'd merely heard of primecoin half an hour ago)
cads: same here but I have to say it's intriguing
Duffer1: ya, i must disagree with that position
cads: for a really weaksauce example, say I take the square of a number x. In the result I've also computed the square of the number -x, and this for 'free'.
cads: Duffer1: I do feel like we're arguing more from philosophical/economical principle that computation shouldn't give us two things for free - but this seems false.
cads: mircea_popescu: I concur
MisterE: not that I have ever done that to a cat
mircea_popescu: (i've not looked much into it at all)
mircea_popescu: i suppose actually my lemma may end up the equivalent of quantum indeterminacy, but for maths.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i suppose it degenerates into some sort of banal equality otherwise
cads: mircea_popescu: I feel the same here, for the opposite side
cads: mircea_popescu: I think we should be able to test the hypothesis directly against the primecoin if we try hard enough
cads: mircea_popescu: I don't feel it mathematically yet but I feel why we'd like this to hold, economically
BingoBoingo: I mean for the first set you could probably encode information much as RSA does. I don't have enough vodka on hand to speculate if that would be a good idea. Most of Elliptic curve cryptography works on spaces that can be played with in graph theory world though.
cads: BingoBoingo: right, I'm to tired to do that rigorously or even tell if why I said even makes sense.
cads: i don't see it because regardless of the supposed usefullness, the algorithm still uses 2^k energy.
mircea_popescu: i imagine after enough btc blocks, we'll actually get shakespeare's merchant of venice in the hashes, so why not
cads: I feel the value supposition must be completely independent and coincidental to the energy requirements. You could even suppose it is pure coincidence the output of the second algorithm is structured such that it's useful to the third party.
mircea_popescu: ok, let me offer what i believe is a homomorphism
cads: first example of a scientific computing cryptocurrency (and I certainly hope we'll see more useful ones as well)
mircea_popescu: im not debating whether it's interesting, it's definitely interesting. i'm just saying it;'s stupid. stupid things are usually interesting, at least as amusements
cads: the author does provide me with say 30 bits of novel information (I had not known of prime coin - the paper is interesting)
chetty: I want a time machine, send those folks back to walk streets a foot deep in horse shit
BingoBoingo: Well I'll post this again in case anyone can't scroll up http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/13/an-overview-of-betable-sports-part-2-basketball/
MisterE: and ftr I think hockey is still dominated by white barbarians
MisterE: but I've been to a hockey game and it's very cool
MisterE: I cant it sounds dumb
cads: "The Skynet hypothesis is a boogeyman intended to scare the young and the paranoid. The real threat from AI is that it will become so good at the pointless tasks that we have given it that those pointless tasks will become a black hole of resources." I am reading an article about a concept the author calls malignant computing - computing that increases itself and hurts the market in an effort to perpetuate itself. http://radar.oreilly.
MisterE: heh, I'll read
BingoBoingo: I swear I tried to do the basketball post as honestly as I could without calling it nigger golf
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Well, I've seen little actual promise from ads in either space
cads: mircea_popescu: I got it. What do you call a cryptocurrency based on protein folding?
BingoBoingo: benkay: It what way can I really turn the dial though
ozbot: Eiffel 65 - I'm Blue - YouTube
benkay: i heard tell of...
BingoBoingo: My hope is I do this one fundraiser. Someone gets a year or decade of advertising, and the balance keeps the site alive for literally, rather than merely figuratively... forever.
kakobrekla: hm, perhaps i get you some adaptive css instead?
BingoBoingo: I wonder if kakobrekla might want to help keep my blog alive for bit4x advertising and an oil painting?
BingoBoingo: B007: You wanted a book on subjective decision making, I offered te same
BingoBoingo: B007: I'd suggest Kritik der Urteilskraft
B007: if you donate I will luv you forever http://www.binaryspawn.com/donate/
BingoBoingo: Oh, benkay I would have pegged you as being from the Republic of Oregon
joecool: benkay: i'd like to think florida is too
BingoBoingo: B007: It was a lie in the sense that the program admitted 3x more students than the market would bear and the students who got hired all sucked a meaner dick than I would
benkay: some family is flying babydoll and i out for her sister's birthday. this includes a Hajj to Disneyland, apparently.
benkay: anyways you guys i get to experience America this weekend!
BingoBoingo: benkay: You understand. I want something ever so slightly more friendly for machine readers than human readers, and I only want rounded surfaced on my dick in sum bitch's mouth
B007: or I guess for you was
benkay: droplets, eh? i imagine i'll go flat flat text with bare links next.
BingoBoingo: B007: I am a trained librarian who does freelance work because I was fed a lie... Well a lot of lies
BingoBoingo: I prefer minimal styling though.
BingoBoingo: I might get a softer linen background
BingoBoingo: joecool: I am skeptical that I can find sponsors atm in the 2-8 BTC range, but... the blog made slasdot twice in 2014
BingoBoingo: If one of the other bloggers want to be the Patron I would be amenable to Slashdot coaching.
BingoBoingo: I'm amenable to parting with both the painting of Kim Jung Il's heart attack on a train and a portion of my sidebar together.
BingoBoingo: First I need to come up with a fundraising plan for blog
BingoBoingo: I plan on falling behind in about 20 hours again
BingoBoingo: Honestly I think China is selling designs to SU now
joecool: mircea_popescu: i would guess it doesn't really matter what, but there will be a lot of whatever what is
BingoBoingo: I dunno that the raphs suck
joecool: got worried when i saw the link and thought it was about me
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation as far as i recall the theory behind carbon dating and especialyl the "constant decay" part has been under fire for decades.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i never actually run gambling. but i'm vaguely aware it's a living, so
mircea_popescu: i never heard of a promoter that had it easy.
mircea_popescu: the way i'm thinking, if you pick a sport you like and you actually know enough about to make a line, you can then make that line, and promote it like any bookie
BingoBoingo: Most male vetrans I've seen drunk enough to spill the dark secrets spill that they didn't kill people. A majority of the women who admit to being in firefights admit to shooting to kill people because they really don't want to carry goat boy to term if the base is over run
lnovy: I don't share that view... homicides are not always coldblooded killing...
BingoBoingo: IRL, I've got lots of antidotes, but nothing I can feed a stats machine
mircea_popescu: and that's old 1970s data. by now... i'd be surprised if one kid out of ten ever becomes a useful soldier.
BingoBoingo: I assume the women who would use it would be untrainable
lnovy: I'll just leave it here... http://youtu.be/D1XPS-j-O24
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: hehe, I still think people aren't all assholes ;)
mircea_popescu: Azelphur: yea, that's why I think an alarm would be better, that at least gets the attention of people around you << so they can join in ?
BingoBoingo: I find amazing that in spite of a decade and a half of shitfits related to "extremist groups" whose membership never exceeds the hundreds, actual instability still comes from nation-states whose membership numbers in the millions to the hundreds of millions
mircea_popescu: i guess they don't teach that in self-affirmative-shiteater classes for womenz in tech and other important things huh.
mircea_popescu: dexx jesus the butthurt with that woman is phenomenal. what happened to "i've been a stupid cunt and all it took you folks was five minutes to make it obvious. you're awesome thank you so much for taking the time!"
benkay: so - poor people are flocking to social media and bringing their poor habits with them i gather.
benkay: davout i need more cello :(
benkay`: i don't even wat
MisterE: I should get over there
BingoBoingo: I imagine it is like a reverse Berkshire
MisterE: I bet those jobs are monimum wage too
MisterE: http://i.imgur.com/XnCdLF9.jpg?1
benkay`: i suppose that's discreet, if you're the gestapo.