233900+ entries in 0.142s
danielpbarron: no, run walk wouldn't do it. have
to get a random number from 0
to pi and
then randomly add pi
to it based on a given chance
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's kinda lulzy
the barrett dude never showed up, seeing how we're actually doing all he aimed
to do a lot better w/o really
trying. but hey, such is
the power of
the inept.
☟︎ Framedragger: slippery slope into simulating anatomy! (is
this bad? mno) :D
mircea_popescu: (this is not currently feasible in eulora ; but you could have a fixed ratio by
togling walk/run each step)
mircea_popescu: and yes, alt-client for emacs etc has long been desired. if you make it happen
there's eulora riches for you.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger certainly going
towards player-run
towns etc.
Framedragger: you know, sometimes i'm
tempted
to write up some kind of graphics-less (otherwise it's not feasible) civ-style simulator with proper economics, including contracts, liquidity etc etc. maybe eulora is
the place
to explore all
that hm :)
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform : actual usecase for FUCKGOATS in eulroa play : because
the current mining software uses random
to position
the miner,
the quality of
the rng generator decides how likely you actually step outside of
the coords you are. ie, if your rng is biased, you're more likely
to go outside.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Framedragger it already
tests
the limits of common understanding, with good stuff like pricing, industry models, etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 20:37 asciilifeform: re: analogue rng, let's say you have a rat in a cage, want
to use him for rng. you give him a
toggle
to press, connect it between 'out' and 'ground', with a pull-up
to 'power' (10Kohm or more).
Framedragger: (which is doable and
there are libraries for it, it's just slow of course)
Framedragger: maybe one day eulora will
test
the limits of common software when
the exploration or quality determination during crafting or whatever requires infinite precision real numbers :p
mircea_popescu: course
the error here is enough
to drift
the miner one full step in 1bn explore attempts, which is far outside what anyone ever managed
to do in one run.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 20:29 Framedragger: actually,
that last "5" should be a 6 because
the digit
that follows is a 9
Framedragger: (if you
then draw path of person with enough datapoints (sufficient amount of choose-new-angle events), you'd get an arc/circle.)
Framedragger: in math
terms, probably
that when selecting new angle angle,
there is a statistical bias
towards one side from
the current angle? so
that if it were a person, one of
the legs would be shorter, and
the person would be inclined
towards one side when walking somewhere.
Framedragger: (just
to be clear,
there were
two digits wrong (3.14159265_3_5), and
the last one (it should go up by one due
to proceeding digit). as phf said, math.h has
that constant defined, but eh:)
phf: yeah, knuth's literate programming style prefers own defines
to
things like
that, when a define is a property of code, rather
than artifact of environment
Framedragger: danielpbarron: and since you have
three occurrences of it in 3.1415926545 may as well make it into an actual constant var maybe? /trivial-grammer-nazi-notes
Framedragger: actually,
that last "5" should be a 6 because
the digit
that follows is a 9
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "das man",
that average animal of
two goats and
three rabbits. but still,
two words etc.
phf: i can switch it
to familiar format, but i only vaguely remember what
the numbers actually mean. something about where
the chunk is, and how many lines were dropped. etc.
phf: it's
the equivalent of diff's @@ -0,0 +1,437 @@. i just dump whatever's being stored in patch's fields, without any special formatting
trinque: yeah,
this "they" is an unfeature
Framedragger: (in .lt it's
translated as "they" which is prolly not very good)
trinque has a seething hatred of
the mind
that holds
the hive as
the bedrock of reality, can cause a strong reaction.
Framedragger: (exists, i
think, in "being and
time"? but i've only read excerpts, longish ago)
trinque catching up, deeding detached sigs is not
that hard
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 13:25 mircea_popescu:
this didn't seem worth
the evaluation so i passed it) a "pyramid of science" pecking order may well be involved, in
the sense
that "oh, we learned null sets in kindergarten" and phf's english, while formally fine, does not actually serve him well enough
to convey
this difference i don't suspect. g) what's "das man" ? h) how did ph
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 13:25 mircea_popescu: id
they said nothing or
this ? c)
the principle "if you're going
to say i'm a dog explain why!" is sound, but
this is sadly not always possible. an eminent example of a class of cases when
this isn't possible is when someone says something in direct and seeming wilful contradiction of logic. d) statements about you by others are statements about
the world-you object as perceived by
them not about
the i-you subject as perceive
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 13:25 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1584804 << dawg,
this in-general commentary style is very confusing
to me. parser fails pluriously and compiler identifies
the following problems which for your convenience have been packed separately : a)
the whole "[lowered into] pederasty" concept is used improperly. given alf's incessant usage
this is understandable, but mind
that alf
tends
to very finely abuse
terms at
the very edge of m
trinque:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1584817 << could very well be
that
the habits of speech in RU and
TX are so different as
to cause severe friction. same effect happens between
TX and just about anywhere in US,
too. wasn't confused about what "lowered into pederasty" meant
though.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: (also recommended reading - mr dantzig's work. now
that was one hell of a homework doer.)
mircea_popescu: (well, could, in
this implementation doesn't bother
to
though)
mircea_popescu: problem is "keep sample locations
tethered
to
this origin"
mircea_popescu: hehe. anyway. drunkwalk it's extremely beautiful/elegant solution
to very serious class of problems, as exemplified in
this minign
thing. i'm having a ball with it.
mircea_popescu: now question for
the mathematicians in attendance : obviously we know
that if you want
to "keep bot mining
tethered
to
this point"
the approach is
to implement drunk walk.
this however will result in a gradient intensity of steps, decreasing from
the origin. now - how do we shape
the intensity distribution so
that eg
the maximal intensity is in a circle around
the origin, while maintaining
the desirable properties of
the drun
Framedragger: asciilifeform: for my education, so
the way
to make yoke
test work is
that
the 'master' part outputs its clock via
the reset pin? (this is prolly what mircea_popescu meant but it's new
territory for me).
phf: welcome
to dataflow country
mircea_popescu: "you mean
the rng
tool can't even keep fucking
time ?" "aha"
mircea_popescu: dude wtf new process is
this,
they just bake 5mn and
then filter out
the working resonators out of a collodial suspension ?
mircea_popescu: but in
truth
there's
two kinds of kids in
the kindergarten,
those who go around writing
their name on all
the cubes and
those who go around pointing at all
the
things and saying "mine!"
mod6: yeah,
that could probably be a decent feature
there. i do recall phf
talking about it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there's something fundamentally visceral about
the written page you're entirely inadherent
to, as seen here and in
the case of clearsigns etc. pass by reference is not
the same as pass by value!
mircea_popescu: which i
think he intends
to do on his own once he's happy with
the whole
tower ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 seems more like you want phf's bot
to have an irc submission interface ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i
think he means you didn't put your name on it
phf: asciilifeform: i'm sad your schematic is missing
the annotation. how will we know in
thousand years
time
that it was indeed penned by
the blessed leibowitz