asciilifeform: cooking with gas!

asciilifeform: tharwego.

asciilifeform: ^^

asciilifeform: (and, for the record, when i suggested to ben_vulpes that he did not need to live fire, it was because it was a removal of ifdefs that were switched off, which, if done correctly, would yield a bitwise-identical binary.)

asciilifeform: so we have serious business here, and all the belts and suspenders - actually matter.

asciilifeform: the enemy's entire modus operandi is to always have 'honest mistake' alibi

asciilifeform: which you cant really tell if it was a good << hence the original discussion of why 'the sapper errs once'

asciilifeform: !s shitgnomes

asciilifeform is happy that folks grasp exactly what he suggested on day1

asciilifeform: aha ^

asciilifeform: ^^^^^^

asciilifeform: !s dijkstra

asciilifeform: forkers - can build own turdatrons.

asciilifeform: anyway, as far as i understand, the whole point of having actual arses in the driver's chair (ben_vulpes? mod6?) here is to merge patches and maintain the 'True chain'

asciilifeform: 'those who will not xxx are doomed to reinvent xxxx...'

asciilifeform invited anyone who can turn up a live copy, to link

asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: down side of collecting links - they die. aha

asciilifeform: aha hence hashchain.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: correct.

asciilifeform feels useful for a sec

asciilifeform: define as hash(hash... 'by the neck until dead'

asciilifeform: or....

asciilifeform fondly remembers donating his first real multi-cpu rig's cycles to mersenne search

asciilifeform: (deterministic in P!)

asciilifeform: jurov: actually we have a deterministic primality test! with massive constant factor, but anyway.

asciilifeform: (massive pdf turd)

asciilifeform: obligatory l33t w4r3z: https://notendur.hi.is/pgg/Handbook%20of%20Applied%20Cryptography.pdf

asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu might say

asciilifeform: out of such confusion, is everything born

asciilifeform: loll

asciilifeform: as i said, let's grunt out what happens if composite.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: unless one or both are equal to it

asciilifeform: for prime p and q

asciilifeform: although - how on earth can pxq be a multiple of 65537 !?

asciilifeform: the broom - fires once. yes.

asciilifeform: work it out

asciilifeform: ahaha.

asciilifeform: hence the obligatory whinge about new silicon

asciilifeform: easy with bitshifts

asciilifeform: yes, that is why used.

asciilifeform: but does need to be prime.

asciilifeform: it doesn't need to be.

asciilifeform: afaik 65537 is largest known fermat prime.

asciilifeform: iirc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fermat primes.

asciilifeform: (trivial example - 2^4 - 1 == 15.)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fixed count on bits << easy as a fart. start with the bits, then shuffle with rng transpositions.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is helpfully reminded that not all mersenne numbers are mersenne primes!

asciilifeform: ehe

asciilifeform: cardano, what other

asciilifeform: the 32k in me micro, that space

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: space.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that one's for when you built a Si fab

asciilifeform: http://www.di.ens.fr/~pnguyen/pub_BoJoNg00.htm << for more advanced student

asciilifeform: http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/1448/definition-of-textbook-rsa << for schoolchildren

asciilifeform: random padding lol

asciilifeform sincerely hopes no one is surprised

asciilifeform: cardano-1 doesn't encipher...

asciilifeform: but with pure-rsa, enciphering on a generic pc will be a suicidal act.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: (need lotsa padding)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: though it will further imperil folks who are enciphering on hardware without proper rng.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu probably recalls our convo re: pure-rsa. we'll have it.

asciilifeform: ehehe

asciilifeform: don't misunderstand, i like the 'fixed fields' idea, but am also aware that shitgnome excretions in a hundred places in commonplace toolchains will silently screw with it.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform likes to examine turds with naked eyes

asciilifeform: because if not, why even bother with ascii, use gpg binary format

asciilifeform: idea is mutilation-resistance

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: only in so far as their crud has made its way into www browsers, etc

asciilifeform: but what of all those poor sods stuck on antideluvian ms-dos abominations

asciilifeform: me - no

asciilifeform: often gets auto-substituted in place of proper ones

asciilifeform: winblow cr, lf line ending

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when idiot www crud or os (anywhere in the chain) starts gnawing at your line endings, or adding line noise, you blow the fixed frame

asciilifeform: most folks never try 'gnawing through the leather straps,' but once you do - you learn how thick they are.

asciilifeform: see the 'broken glass' discussion earlier, also.

asciilifeform: which will frame-shift as the contents get procrusted by the idiot code

asciilifeform: this wouldn't be a problem except if you have fixed fields

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's not the issue. just about everyone is putting ascii through some raper that mutilates unprintables (www browsers, toy operating systems, etc)

asciilifeform: aye, but then why fixed byte strings

asciilifeform: also eol char variation derpery

asciilifeform: fixed - bad, not everyone has same key length

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same idea

asciilifeform: bunchafolks have old keys (incl. yours truly)

asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/PGQhLqnL << example

asciilifeform: applicable, in that scheme, to the remainder after the ------END...

asciilifeform: one possible method - toss the sig in the head of the file

asciilifeform: if i knew - we'd have it.

asciilifeform: till we have a gpg that clearsigns without escape char mutilation - we got this.

asciilifeform: 'doctor, it hurts!'

asciilifeform: don't drop the stack.

asciilifeform configurable with loopback approach << regards the whole orchestra as eminently obvious to anyone who thinks hard, and that all this can be done by the folks here without breaking a sweat

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the primary reason i suggested zapping the toy os ports

asciilifeform: chess not drink.

asciilifeform: no prizes for which organ

asciilifeform: (ru film about derpy f-student kid who goes to the past to zap historical notables so he won't have to study them)

asciilifeform: obligatory time machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR56uNg2XQs&feature=youtu.be&t=2m43s