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kakobrekla: i havent played in years :\
asciilifeform: as a matter of fact i do.
asciilifeform: (i once took a great interest in the subject of head-mounted displays)
asciilifeform: there were, if i recall, others.
mircea_popescu: all i see is a n1 at 2k/1k
asciilifeform: this is only 2x the density of the 'nexus 10' widget i read djvus with.
mircea_popescu: omg i don't suck how can you say that!1
CheckDavid: But I love him
cazalla: diametric: I think the dislike might come from feeling inferior due to the conversations here
cazalla: I'm your average person, can't keep up with some of the conversation here, need to go and google words for definitions and so forth but I'm here (got started in Bitcoin nov 2012) so I would expect others who are average to start turning up as I have
diametric: there is a surprisingly amount of people that really dislike mircea_popescu. I've encountered a few that proclaim he's a scammer, but when questioned on what scam specifically they fail to give details.
cazalla: diametric: learning curve i would think
mircea_popescu: i sure hope so.
cazalla: given it takes a year to go through the /r/bitcoin and bitcointalk wringer, i am thinking most end up here after some time and not straight off thet bat
cazalla: I'm fairly new and my being here, I would expect more soon diametric
diametric: lots of new people stopping by lately i see
mircea_popescu: i dunno, must be some meanwhile forgotten joke ?
hdbuck: i saw your first post on the btcforum was: "I'm pretty convinced we will see 1mn$ / BTC at some future point" havent changed your mind so far? ^^
hdbuck: i figured you had a pretty good idea tho cuz i'm clueless :)
hdbuck: mircea_popescu, could you please enlighten me regarding what is actually going to happen in bitcoinland? i mean, all that junk going on with the BTCFoundation, the heists, the banks, the whole damn world? what to expect if not some shitstorm lies and persecutions?
mircea_popescu: <mpoe-pr> you're aware that there's this bitcoin forum that i work on every day. and on this forum, there are sub-forums. and one of these is off-topic.
cazalla: I would probably get along great with radan lol
kakobrekla: i know.
kakobrekla: yeah, i better stop using initials for my email signature
hdbuck: lol yeah, i just digged up MK essays and got caught between fires
hdbuck: i really cant tell so far
benkay: i should fix that.
mircea_popescu: you don't read the forum much i take it.
benkay: i was under the impression that 2% was an outrageous return in btc.
mircea_popescu: i'll end up making 3% over a year and people will be o noes, such low return
mircea_popescu: i can't sell enough us, as far as i'm concerned.
mircea_popescu: i'd take two years there
benkay: i've been looking for fb puts on the same scale.
benkay: "i have a pwan! pwint MOAR!"
benkay: i start to understand the furor over QE ca 2007
mircea_popescu: i thought i was the only cool one.
Namworld: Damn, I decoded what was pasted and i got a large image with just a few pixel high line of actual picture.
Mats_cd03: i see
mircea_popescu: here, i'll summarize it for you :
asciilifeform: but ianafi (i am not a fire inspector)...
asciilifeform: this is quite like the one i saw.
benkay: so all of GLBSE is worthwhile i guess.
ninjashogun: benkay - I think you miss the point. Valuation literally, bydefinition, is value.
asciilifeform: i saw a much simpler (cable-driven) version of this being used right here on my street.
dub: I know someone that implemented IPoW(et)S(tring) at university
ninjashogun: It's the difference between "How can I help you get from a $500K nominal valuation - your last round - to $10M" and "Wait, you're not taking a salary? Why don't you just go on welfare?" -- this channel above :)
mircea_popescu: i wonder if real rats ever tried to mate with them
asciilifeform: (i know of no real life 'gas modem' but folks have proposed using gas, water, even sewer pipes for 'last mile' ip so be careful what you wish for)
asciilifeform: i had a dream as a kid where me modem (old at&t 'paragon' fished from a skip) was a gas modem, and i forgot to turn off the gas
Mats_cd03: i can't speak for anyone else
Mats_cd03: i think youve spent too much time drinking the silicon valley koolaid
ninjashogun: Mats_cd03, honestly I clearly have given this channel way too much access to what I'm doing already. There's a reason stealth mode startups operate in that way.
ninjashogun: Mats_cd03, I humbly disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion.
Mats_cd03: but consulting firms are cool, i guess...
ninjashogun: Mats_cd03, I worked for a startup that was acquired, as one of just two employees. Yes, I know how typical funded startups operate.
ninjashogun: decimation, as I mentioned before we are at the pre-financing stage - the startup is not raising money right now. I know a lot of stories of people who built great things with burn rates near $0. Airbnb is now closing a round at $10B. They sold cereal to launch.
asciilifeform: i, personally, have nothing against paupers who live in $100, or even $10 ditches, and cannot finance anything
Mats_cd03: whenever i see tumblr my brain tells me "boobies"
benkay: i think there's a good reason society's locked you up in a 100/mo shithole, sir.
ninjashogun: benkay, and I understand the Risk Compensation argument deeply and with nuance.
ninjashogun: benkay, I do grasp it.
Apocalyptic: ninjashogun, I hope i don't use any products resulting of your experience
benkay: ninjashogun: all trolls say "I'm not a troll".
ninjashogun: For what it's worth, I'm not a troll and do have some experience with product design trade-offs.
ninjashogun: Apocalyptic, I am trying to understand the architectural trade-offs in the Cardano, and, specifically, why the private key MUST be stored in the plain with no mitigation against loss. (Except key revocation, if the user is aware of it). Why it has to be "fail-dangerous" and not "fail-90% dangeorus"
Apocalyptic: dafuq am I reading
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I did learn from it, yes. Clearly Risk Compensation is not a law :) :) It is possible to mitigate fallout in some ways without automatically getting an exact compensation.
asciilifeform: ninjashogun: i am sad to say that you appear to have learned nothing from our conversation.
asciilifeform: likewise, if i applied some magical seal (assume one exists) the buyer is unable to dissect his unit without losing it
ninjashogun: benkay, I understand this.
ninjashogun: I don't think it's possible to make a true tamper evident device.
ninjashogun: I personally don't like tamper evident seals at all.
ninjashogun: Oh, this is what I understood from asciilifeform
asciilifeform: in my earlier conversation with ninjashogun, i tried to explain the concept of only solving technical problems that can be solved -well-.
benkay: i'm trying to drag the lunacy out into the open, asciilifeform.
decimation: nevertheless, I fail to see how this is the ammo manufacturer's problem
ninjashogun: decimation, i.e. if it has been in adversary's hands, the result is obviously 0% integrity. What else is the result? I identified a couple of results to asciilifeform (including threat verctor back to PC should it be replaced without the Owner's knowledge)
ninjashogun: I also agree.
asciilifeform: decimation: correct. i'm glad somebody gets this
asciilifeform: that is approximately what i said, yes.
ninjashogun: decimation, so this relates to an architectural discussion I had with asciilifeform on it. Specifically, a very GOOD reason not to include ANY second factor, not even the most trivial one (such as not writing your name and bitcoin address on the Cardano) is because any second factor will INCREASE the risky behavior in its users.
ninjashogun: yes, I know this :)
ninjashogun: by deep check I mean you can get to know them deeply, even run medical tests, as well as trust their behavior on a deep level, as you do with your brothers and sisters for example.
ninjashogun: (I mean, for example, in theory you can do a deep check on all of your partners and KNOW they have no STD's and also don't sleep with anyone else othre than you. Condom use lets you have some protection in cases where this isn't done.)
ninjashogun: But I don't think the Risk Compensation argument is effective against condom use.
ninjashogun: I thought about some of the architectural things you point out re cardano. As a practical question, how do we determine the limits of risk compensation arguments?
asciilifeform: always neglected is the question of wtf means 'earned.' i.e. the fellow who faithfully sits through traffic and warms a chair for 8hr/day moving paper from one pile to another, in the popular imagination, 'earns' something.
mircea_popescu: decimation but i suspect pg's point stands from a time before that.
mircea_popescu: i'd say my business tended to me worth 48 loaves and change.
mircea_popescu: and i spend an hour and make forty-nine and a half loaves
mircea_popescu: if you want bread, and i want bread, and you spend an hour and make a loaf
benkay: mistresses i get, mircea_popescu but the business? does it not take ongoing tweaking and leadership?
mircea_popescu: i've had it up to here with in-their-mind slick fucks trying to turn bitcoin into some sort of corporate sales management device.
jurov: to them bitcoin looks like another conspiration, i spose
jurov: i see surprisingly large part of intellingent people (in sense they can get easily over-average salary) trapped in conspirational mindset
jurov: i'm just telling you why i think non-cruft fails to be attracted to bitcoin
jurov: but ibm had no part-time position for me, so i said fuck you. i'll try freelancing
mircea_popescu: how shall i put this in better terms.
mircea_popescu: but in the sense of accident "i'd have been to busy to hear of bitcoin" or in the sense of stupidity ?
jurov: what i heard ibm job is much cozier than getting worried for several months if that coinbr contraption is actually gonna fed you someday