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ThickAsThieves: no it's pdf from a friend that knows a guy at Moodys
mircea_popescu: right but i mean of whom or what or in general, who needs to be hit over the head with the observation that the bitcoin space has had a gaap for years and they're being ignorant.
ThickAsThieves: it has a "Rate this Research" button on the bottom, so i'm guessing itll be on their website somewhere
bitcoinpete: a "bitcoiner" i know from calgary is in paris atm and headed to the house of bitcoin
rithm: there's a WU on every block
rithm: "countries" sounds like a lot
rithm: it's a monopoly
mircea_popescu: and a market of "hackers" let's say, ie, the sons and daughters of said iliterate peasants. who will just move to bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: truth is bitcoin is exactly going to kill them. western union has a market made out of illiterate peasants and assimilated non-persons, which is not really worth serving per se,
ThickAsThieves: 'How much of a threat is something like Bitcoin?' "We settle and pay out in 121 currencies ... once bitcoin is regulated ... why wouldn't we use bitcoin ... if it's regulated as a currency" ~ Western Union CEO
rithm: as part of a lrger operation
rithm: basically you could operate a pool of anonymous miners that constantly roll-over and get shipped to customers
rithm: if you can tell them to fuck off, and trendon can lie to them and destroy evidence, and erik can keep all his bitcoins and fay a minor usd fine.....
rithm: which sounds like a terribll terribly punitive slap on the wrist
mircea_popescu: mthreat all this "we gotta say something and we have no idea what to say so here's a collection of copypasted material with filler" shit...
mircea_popescu: quite the vibrant little community we got here. there's even a manul in a treehouse!
mircea_popescu: This blog is the inalienable property of the greatest mind the universe ever had, and is ever going to have. Its contents are licensed under a Creative Commons License.
mircea_popescu: but you're right, the only current business of pseudo-bitcoin businesses a la coinbase, bitpay etc is that they're benefiting from a legal inefficiency, where exchanges that admit it are being fucked actively, whereas exchangesd that pretend to be paymernt processors aren't fucked quite as bad quite as yet.
mircea_popescu: or about 10 btc. while a block is worth about 5k-10 satoshi
mircea_popescu: "A more formalized version of this should be linked/appended to every single IPO offering on the forums as a cautionary tale. "
Namworld: A date with signatures shows when it was acknowledged to be changed. Such that none can claim a specific change occured prior to that date.
mircea_popescu: Namworld if you want i can sign it for you. then whoever wants to say you changed it will also have to say i signed a new version.
mircea_popescu: and also it's a fine example of what'd go into the bitcoin-assets registrar of deeds.
Namworld: That and we don't provide a default client seed, we use the blockchain transaction ID of the last deposit.
mircea_popescu: Namworld a ok nm then, it's quite strong
Namworld: Yes, there's a list with months of secrets' hashes provided upfront.
mircea_popescu: Namworld a you also predisclose the hash ?
mircea_popescu: it's a conundrum
mircea_popescu: the absolutely ideal system, imo, would be a server that used the same secret for ALL PLAYERS and reset it (for all players) at any player's request. but this poses problems for anon players.
Namworld: There's a single server seed for all users for the day... with its hash predisclosed. It would be pretty much impossible to reasonably find another seed that matches the hash...
mircea_popescu: 1.2 btc bet comes in. server looks at results, A wins, B loses. server picks its hash as B and reconstructs the merkle tree
mircea_popescu: ie, either "A" or "B" would give the 0.1 and 0.2 bets same results.
mircea_popescu: server seed is "A". 0.1 btc comes in, is calculated. wins or loses.
mircea_popescu: let me show you a model.
Namworld: They could steal a few thousands extra BTC on large bets which might not seem too odd until it's too late.
Namworld: It doesn't help much if the system is targetting accounts with large balance and stops cheating after a small sample/when the large balance isn't making large bets.
mircea_popescu: i still say you should make a blog.
mircea_popescu: client's last deposit tx is good, and a lot of space in there in the block in case it's needed.
penguirker: New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/25/bitcoin-is-not-a-payment-network/
mircea_popescu: Namworld "No, you wouldn't be able to notice that the website, across all players, has a much higher house edge than 1% which is unlikely. It's easy to fill with fake "lucky" account to compensate " << you could notice it over your own experience.
mircea_popescu: a museum of gambling site
mircea_popescu: punkman i never got bacarrat, but you know what might be a good idea ?
Namworld: At least there's a large, targeted audience there.
Namworld: Yes, it should indeed be a requirement to have such an external tool for current venues.
mircea_popescu: Namworld stop being stubborn. if you put up text like that you need a blog. how's someone going to comment on it for instance ? how's someone coming in 1 year know what was already commented ?
mircea_popescu: 1. Client changes the seed after each new server seed, before every bet. He doesn't know server seed, so seed he provides should give a random number. (Painfully tedious, few actually do it, but for those who do, provably fair.) << prolly a bot that does this would be useful.
punkman: I want to make a nice provably fair baccarat game. Get all those chinese bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: Namworld you need a blog
Namworld: So I'll probably do a public campaign concerning all venues.
pankkake: I have another post coming :D I've deciced against a third by inserting it in the second
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/%3Eexchanges%3C/a%3E,%20%3Ca%20href=
mircea_popescu: you blew a link tho
mircea_popescu: mike_c : add a webirc link to #wol in the page ?
mircea_popescu: remember that guy a year or so ago threatening to kill kako's plushie toys
pankkake: "For the record, a boatload of neckbeards doesn't pay for one single financier. This because tech people actually are humanly inferior to money people. They're less of a person."
pankkake: assetters would simply declare that light is a scam
rithm: like i can take a few pics and select a theme and boom slideshow
mircea_popescu: mike_c: how many assetters does it take to screw in a lightbulb :p << how do you fit a girl in a lightbulb ?
ThickAsThieves: i figure i want a lil gold anyway
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mircea_popescu: /htm/ is such a good directory to have.
mircea_popescu: a penal tit
rithm: a penalty
ThickAsThieves: there's a penalty for polluting rithm
davout: mircea_popescu: "we heard you like dns, so we put a dns server in your dns server ..."
mircea_popescu: reading the logs, you bunch have been at this "let's fuck up dns" for a while by now huh
pankkake: can we have a 20 year bitbet against global warming?
chetty: mircea_popescu, I was amused at the great scientist asking folks to prove a negative :P
mircea_popescu: rithm: ok so firstly, bitcoin bought all of this <<< was it more than a car ?
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mircea_popescu: chetty: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/25/want-to-disprove-man-made-climate-change-a-scientist-will-give-you-10000-if-you-can/ << 10k srsly ? it'd better be bitcoin.
punkman: I'm just glad I'm not a sysadmin
davout: punkman: -assets currently looks like a bunch of medieval doctors putting leeches on a guy with a broken ankle
mircea_popescu: punkman what's a standard for if not pissing all over it ?
punkman: "It is important to know that NS records are only responsible for defining the names of DNS servers within a zone, i.e. they do not represent IP addresses,"
mircea_popescu: you know, "why do i get a fail message when im not doing anything"
mircea_popescu: davout take a hint ? :D
davout: mike_c: curious as to why i'm getting a servfail when not asking your server directly
mike_c: dig -t A seeds.therealaltcoin.org @54.197.241.190
davout: i'm asking for an A record
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's a small offering? Or maybe people want shares FIRST!!! << it's tiny, 15 btc total.
mike_c: dig -t A
davout: mike_c: dig A seeds.therealtcoin.org @54.197.241.190
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves there isn't a last price yet.
davout: ThickAsThieves: A record for that, on mike_c's server
ThickAsThieves: what if i want http://seeds. to point a picture of apple seeds? what record for that?
Apocalyptic: <mike_c> in order for clients to query it, the root domain needs to list my server as a nameserver for seeds.atc // you're sure ?
mike_c: in order for clients to query it, the root domain needs to list my server as a nameserver for seeds.atc
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: maybe thatll be on his grave << what should be on his grave is "I thought I knew shit, because I used to be a shithead. Now I know better, but what's the use, I'm already shitlisted."
mike_c: davout: I am running a nameserver for seeds.atc
jurov: not if one pays another 100% for filing a debt claim
davout: punkman pankkake if what's needed is load balancing, or failover, multiple A records for the same domain would do just fine
ThickAsThieves: i wil not accept a maybe
davout: punkman: a i see, you want a dynamic A record for seeds
mircea_popescu: "you have two problems. the government takes one and gives you a cow. now you have three problems."
pankkake: well despite knowning the thing I have a hard time following the discussion
davout: i feel like i'm going down into a confusion vortex
mircea_popescu: this should totally be a musical
pankkake: the "format" for the altcoin client is a DNS reply
mircea_popescu: a second later it comes through they're screaming "goal!1" but that second...