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pete_dushenski: would be good wotbet / bitbet : when will eulora be larger economically than, say, idaho ?
mircea_popescu: hey, gotta leave some room for future growth lest the webcommenters win the webattle.
pete_dushenski: so eulora is basically the same as the entire canadian prairies.
mircea_popescu: do they have science in your country ? how about tedx ?
mircea_popescu: eulora comes to 2sqkm of canada. LOGIC!
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Land Area / Countries of the World - World by Map: <http://world.bymap.org/LandArea.html>; Geography of Canada - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Canada>; List of Canadian provinces and territories by area - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_area>
mircea_popescu: tananana. not just 1 millionth, but two!
pete_dushenski: o hey 800 on the stamp
pete_dushenski: keystone, at least not at the national level. but then again, whotf cares about the national level ?
pete_dushenski: "The value of Canada’s natural resource assets stood at $287 billion in 2015, down 73% from 2014, largely due to lower energy prices. […] Timber resources accounted for 55% of the value of all natural resource assets in 2015, followed by minerals (26%) and energy resources (19%)." << in other news, trump's looming war on softwood lumber is going to fucking hurt. and no, it won't be balanced out by
asciilifeform: it is possible to make a platinum-iridium fork. and possibly it will stain less after dishwasher! but is not fundamental improvement on concept of 'fork'
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 21:49 trinque: seems deeply political. what you've got there is a consent bit.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586834 << quite exactly what that is, huh. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can picture variations that increase cost (e.g., higher bitrate, and internal battery) but the basic idea cannot be improved, no.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 22:11 phf: i'd imagine in sane world they would have something like FUCKGOATS or an expensive variation of (like john walker's hotbits) so can publish schematics all you want. in reality it is probably a prng with a seed under two keys
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586849 << the thing with fuckgoats is that, much like in the case of, say, dildo - more expensive variation doens't usefully exist. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but there were (and, not too long ago, i saw -- still are!) 'security'-flavoured talismans.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 22:04 asciilifeform: the ones with the little padlock.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586838 << you mean the "blogosphere" prizes from like 1999 ? ☝︎
ben_vulpes waits for "omfg whats wrong with you americans, none of those tits were even on girls"
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/kaiser-wilhelm-memorial-church-truck-attacker-still-at-large/ << Qntra - Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church Truck Attacker Still At Large
mircea_popescu: aite, ima push to list eh.
trinque: there's a "merits of suffering" notion somewhere in there, too
ben_vulpes: lotsa rape and titties
phf: hehe, this looks horrible
mircea_popescu: phf but if you're up for some utter wtf, can always try "this must be the place". i have no idea what i saw.
mircea_popescu: (this, i come to realise, is a major block for my watching ~any video sf. back when the people involved weren't idiots, the machines weren't yet capable.)
phf: well, sucks. i have fond memories of it, so i'm not even going to try. like i watched a tv show that was popular in ru in mid90s, "quantum leap". i could barely sit through a handful of eposides and only because i was trying to see if it'll get any good..
mircea_popescu: i just don't go for the whole carny show with the facepaint and the star wars papier mache models.
mircea_popescu: phf i tried recently and couldn't stand it. the cheapo roadshow really irks me. it's almost like watching that dude "commenting", what's his face
phf: mircea_popescu: while you're in that french mode you should watch (or rewatch?) fantômas. there's the three 1960s ones, with de funes. i have no idea if they are any good, because i haven't seen them for a very long time, but i suspect that they are sort of comedic 60s take on james bond.
mircea_popescu: the insanity of this boggles the mind, if the mind can be bothered to stop and think for a minute.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 21:43 asciilifeform: author ~wants~ to be boiled in oil..?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586823 << their loyalties be misplaced, what. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yeah, he's not a very good actor, but a fine icon. in the vein of brooms that shoot once, a picture of a car can count for a car from the right angle once ; and a stopped clock still shows accurate time on occasion.
phf: i always thought of him as a pretty boy who can hold a certain pose. that's why i think purple noon is great, where he fits perfectly because he looks young, fresh, aloof and arrogant. but his other stuff is forgettable. i think he had some tv show where he played a middle aged detective, where he was great again, by virtue of being the right age
mircea_popescu: la zizanie certainly got the trilema treatment.
mircea_popescu: fwiw de funes shows the same tragic character, except he's more of an engineer at heart, a great administrator, a sort of fouquet rather than you know, piaf's legionnaire.
mircea_popescu: phf possibly not. but yes, not ~entirely~ bad, and as an actor certainly better than whatever dorks available today, so he'd still win a "what do we watch" competition. the period though... ah, ah.
phf: fwiw his purple noon is great, i think it even got the trilema treatment?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/three-times-as-many-electors-rejected-clinton-than-trump-colin-powell-finally-draws-votes/ << Qntra - Three Times As Many Electors Rejected Clinton Than Trump, Colin Powell Finally Draws Votes
phf: well french cinema not being entirely corrupted by imperialism was popular in su, so alen delon got the same treatment as other "anekdot" characters.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (take, for instance, urushiol. not per se allergenic! but denatures certain protein in skin such that you are your own allergen.) << But where else could Varnish come from!
mircea_popescu: back then, the french were still pretending to be a thing. much in the manner of today's us.
mircea_popescu: last i fell alseep on alain delon. holy shit is that period weird.
asciilifeform: (jurov's viewer is ~still~ the state of the art)
asciilifeform: btw this is something i've already been doing for ages, bedtime lxr
asciilifeform: whole subj, recall began with asciilifeform's request for a literal 'talmud' to take to bed..
mircea_popescu: anyway - IF there's ever going to be that "radical bioengineering technology" medicine, it starts exactly in these places. gotta first do the 13yo torah reading work. then can be man.
asciilifeform: (take, for instance, urushiol. not per se allergenic! but denatures certain protein in skin such that you are your own allergen.)
mircea_popescu: (yes, all allergies mean one thing - that you're a degenerate fenotype not fit for life. what can you do ? certainly can't go back in time and whack ytour mother to fuck better drunks.)
mircea_popescu: guess what - if you take your allergies to the doctor he will also not cut into every cell and fix your bad dna
mircea_popescu: patient is indeed not operable in the sense you mean ; but medicine is chiefly a pile of paleatives, not "radical bioreengineering technology"
asciilifeform: looks almost as if it'd be a skin , front end running tcpwise in front of trb node
mircea_popescu: no, it wasn't, as i don't actually propose any changes to processblock. it can go wholesale in b.blockchain
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was in re: your described cut.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 20:10 asciilifeform: at a certain point, if you attempt the operation, you start to ask 'why is there satoshi crapolade in my bitcoin2.0' rather than 'ooh neato, a repaired trb!'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586803 << you are attempting the wrong operation, which is the problem. cut where i toldja not where you feelta. ☝︎
asciilifeform: (in the case of 'provably fair', he can be shown the seed for the prng, but there is NO way for the casino to demonstrate that NO ONE ELSE KNEW it. hence -- just as promisetronic, and now on top of it all braindamage of using prng)
asciilifeform: also it is strange to suppose that a casino player could take a legitimate interest in the rng of the game machine. it is intrinsically promisetronic, he is stuck taking the house's word for it.
asciilifeform: the difficulty is in making something that can be distinguished, in a spot check, from aes(unixtime+salt), by skeptic.
asciilifeform: there are 10,000,001 possible schemes, it is not some titanic open problem.
phf: that's fair, i think we had a thread, when you first started working on this, with various schemes. "use the optics on your iphone" etc.
asciilifeform: given as it is not physically possible to audit an analogue rng in the same sense as one can audit the digital board (i.e. by putting a TB of random through it, and comparing what comes out other end to the expected), i expect that plenty of folks will choose to build their own analogue unit.
asciilifeform: fwiw (and i may have explained it in the past) FUCKGOATS will work with, e.g., a geiger, or anything else that can supply 1/0 signal
phf: i'd imagine in sane world they would have something like FUCKGOATS or an expensive variation of (like john walker's hotbits) so can publish schematics all you want. in reality it is probably a prng with a seed under two keys ☟︎
asciilifeform: this also is apparently not obvious to everyone. but -- true.
asciilifeform: i will also add that tests, for what they're worth, are worth 0 if they are not of YOUR PARTICULAR device which YOU OWN
asciilifeform: and anyone who knows the salt - owns you.
asciilifeform: (will score maximal, perfect score, on any statistical test you could possibly want.)
asciilifeform: otherwise it can just as easily be a device that puts current unix time + salt through aes
asciilifeform: gotta have the complete design.
phf: yeah, that's what it looks like. i wonder if in your explorations of state of rng you came across any offical GCB evaluation of casino rngs, i don't know if those would even be public or have technical detail...
asciilifeform: the ones with the little padlock. ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: to my -- admittedly untrained -- eye, it looks more like those Guaranteed Seeekooore Website!111 certs that various derps used to display
phf: asciilifeform: is that one of those mandatory gaming authority certifications? or a "you can trust our gaming servers, we got an EVALUATION, got checksums and everything"
asciilifeform: for some reason the only thing that came immediately to mind is the 'piss_on_patents' flag, or what was it, that you used to have to set on linux box to get mp3 and truetype going
trinque: seems deeply political. what you've got there is a consent bit. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and where else in the wonderful world of open sores is there more of this same.
asciilifeform: i gotta wonder, what the euthor of 'pdfminer' was smoking.
asciilifeform: ^ 'official certification' of 'trng' of some poker derps, by some purported 'test lab', scrolled through to see what the submitted hardware was, and it... wasn't. it was a list of java src turds and their file hashes!
asciilifeform: anyway, the relevant lulzbit that spawned this, http://www.pokermira.com/c/ConnectiveGames-RNGEvaluationCertificationLetter1.2.pdf ( http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/QysGU/?raw=true )
trinque: you mayn't remove the fig leaf!1!1!!
asciilifeform: not that this isn't a literally half-second snipsnip.
asciilifeform: author ~wants~ to be boiled in oil..? ☟︎
asciilifeform: # Check if the document allows text extraction. If not, abort.
asciilifeform: this is a thing?!
asciilifeform: pdfminer.pdfdocument.PDFTextExtractionNotAllowed: Text extraction is not allowed: <open file ... some derpitude
ben_vulpes: and i don't recall it well enough to find. alas.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you recall and could you cite a line where you talk about folx using ersatz clients, forking and 'fools'?
ben_vulpes: kinda think that a bitcoin client is journeyman republican project
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've ruminated on this as well before
BingoBoingo: Leather seats are a thing!
asciilifeform: picture a farm d00d upgrading from horse plow to tractor, who goes to tractor factory to demand that parts of his freshly dead horse be incorporated into the machine.
asciilifeform: at a certain point, if you attempt the operation, you start to ask 'why is there satoshi crapolade in my bitcoin2.0' rather than 'ooh neato, a repaired trb!' ☟︎
asciilifeform: and then realized that the resulting patch WILL be 50,000 lines, and the output will look ~nothing like trb, and gave up.
asciilifeform: i will admit, that i many times sat down to do this.
asciilifeform: which is where a trb node is actually hanging for 10-50% of a given day.
asciilifeform: let's take, concretely, ProcessBlock : http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#1319
mircea_popescu: but the place to start is the cleavage above.