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trinque humbly suggests considering
the combination of orthogonal, simple
tools
mod6: I
think a flag
takes care of
this, exactly how alf's original v worked.
mircea_popescu: with
the
test key ? why not ? fucks with your workflow ?
mod6: I don't
think it is reasonable
to sign every
thing I want
to
test.
mircea_popescu: there shouldn't be any flag - nor should it press unsigned
things.
mod6: So yeah, need
to add a flag for
this.
trinque: thing sounds like it needs
to be cleaved into vpatch and v which calls vpatch
mircea_popescu: better off making a
test key and adding it
to seals
than
this
mod6: But it never occured
to me
that
the average guy might just drop on of
these into patches and never consider what he is doing.
mod6: I press
them very often, infact.
trinque: unsigned. better
to know if you're sticking your dick in crazy
tonight.
mod6: Currently, if a WILD vpatch is in
the flow, it will just press it as long as it is based correctly.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> even
the current
thread in #mod6 , is possibly an example << asciilifeform found an oversight in my latest version of V. it doesn't have a flag allow or disallow
the pressing of WILD vpatches.
☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 18:21 mircea_popescu: in any case - mental models of logic, as with mental models of anything found in nature -, are approximations.
the same mechanism
that allows a guy
to isolate 0* from null.predicate allows one all sorts of psycho-imunological responses
that are rather requisite
to maintain
the subjective notion of
the self ~in a format comprehensible
to itself~!
trinque:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1584339 << now
this and
the notion of contorting onself
to
think come into greater focus.
thinking ~til
the answer~ without knowledge of
the possiblity of an answer opens up a wide space for biological suicide.
☝︎ trinque: you'd have option paralysis and sit under a lotus
tree
til you died.
trinque: think if you dwelt forever on
the fact
that by extension, godhood itself is all around you, but you've not
the ability
to understand it.
trinque: the christians hacked a primordial fear here. salvation is but a word, AND YOU'RE GOING
TO MISS IT.
mircea_popescu: i dunno where
this
truism
that "people like people" comes from, but it is spectacularily resilient in
the face of unequivocal quashing irl. NOBODY, past
the age of about 5 or so, likes almost anybody else
to even
the degree of
toleration, let alone actually seeking
them out. not even fucking women, hence
the prostitute's job (not
to fuck - but
to leave after!)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform come
to
think about it, everyone, including modern folks regularly barf upon
that encounter.
trinque: purpose as opposed
to cause
BingoBoingo: <trinque> "not me but christ
through me" even worse, I'd
think, with apologies
to danielpbarron. "I submit myself fully
to
the god of purpose." << Step 3!
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 20:10
trinque: but it points directly
to
the lack of a
transition path for discussed greeks aside "encounter
the
thing, such
that pavlovian conditioning can build useful associations"
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-21#1587492 <<
this neatly dovetails into "brain is not a
thinking machine". "if you exist in
the space long enough, eventually brain will work
to
think about
the space - but if you do not, sorry buster, "probability can not be larger
than 3 because 3 is
the largest it could be".
☝︎ BingoBoingo: <trinque> pete_dushenski:
tundras are motherfuckers;
they're in
the running. << Recently Honda Civic SUV edition "CRV" fell onto my rolling candidates list. Slotted just below rust-free 1986 S10
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, it's just not apparent dutch is aware
this includes dutch.
mircea_popescu: it's easier
to not suck
than
to explain how
to not suck, even in particular cases.
mircea_popescu: certainly
the attempt worked wonders for pete_dushenski writing readable articles. what exactly made his previous work less good
than his current work ?
trinque: but it points directly
to
the lack of a
transition path for discussed greeks aside "encounter
the
thing, such
that pavlovian conditioning can build useful associations"
☟︎ trinque: yeah, I don't suppose
there's a solution in posing
the question.
mircea_popescu: so far i'm opting out of
the entire "systematic slavery"
thing ; it is a private not public matter entirely opaque
to
they-who-aren-t-me, which makes me-as-slaveholder rather divine in nature.
trinque: mircea_popescu: and wouldn't misapplication of
this only further miswire her, and produce worse results ?
mircea_popescu: (yes, /me does
this routinely, and
the complaint routinely is presented
that
the severity is arbitrary etc.)
mircea_popescu: and
this is a problem of much more practical import
than commonly realised. if slave is punished for
things she "should have figured", how
to you connect
the lash count / severity of
the punishment
to
the offense ?
trinque: asciilifeform: how do you narrow
that from "anyone could encounter anything"
mircea_popescu: the question of how you metric
these
things re emerges.
mircea_popescu: it'd better be something
that compares favourably with aristotle's dimensional calculations,
too! because you're so much more advanced
than
the zulureeks!
mircea_popescu: it is altogether dubious, also, HOW will you metric
these distances.
mircea_popescu: but not shorter
than from volcano
to glass ; or from acid
to battery.
trinque: allocation of
thought-power can't be done intelligently on a matter not already known.
mircea_popescu: "they didn't know lightning is available in store -
thought zeus only item. so
they didn't make
tesla coil. problem ?"
mircea_popescu: maybe
that's why no steam engine in pelopones
transit ?
mircea_popescu: (srsly, i sat
there and went holy shit
this is so obvious wtf is wrong with us.)
mircea_popescu: come
to
think about it - ONLY RECENTLY you found out
thyobatteries exist!
mircea_popescu: you can make it in an hour! what were all
these people
thinking! clearly all languages but objective-c were wrong! false gods of a false reason!
mircea_popescu: but forget glass. ~everyone had potatoes even if
they didn't have lemons, and
tin and copper. who made galvanic gold plating process ?
mircea_popescu: but
the general point here was
that undevelopment or underdevelopment is not much argument.
mircea_popescu: ~everyone from golden crescent
to mongolia and sweden had it.
mircea_popescu: i dunno alfie. lava - hot. behind it - glass. doesn't seem more of a leap
than what is proposed for
the original "cooking meat" discovery, which supposedly is why we're even here.
trinque: I will not stumble drunkenly into it, but it'd seem one would at least require input
that can be contorted into
the item.
mircea_popescu: adn so on and so forth. i doubt much conclusion can be drawn from
this absence.
mircea_popescu: you'd
think "it;s on your fucking body - right
there! and it works!" would be sufficient basis.
turns out not. volcanoes produce obsidian but do not appreciably help
the locals make glass.
mircea_popescu: so she'll still frottage
the shit out of
teddybears as a 19yo because hey.
trinque: "what makes woman orgasm" is culture bound. gotta be able
to reprogram it when
they end up in another context.
mircea_popescu: and
to add amusement
to
this : of
those who do discover it naturally, only a fraction figure out
THE PROCESS. most arestuck repeating
the exact procedure
that
they originally discovered.
mircea_popescu: and i wouldn't even
think it fair
to say
that
the other
two
thirds are dumber or something.
mircea_popescu has personally
taught a bunch of young women. about say one
third discover it naturally ; but
the rest do not.
trinque: how could you say something out
there
trinque: two steps beyond experience is
twas brillig and
the slythe
toves
mircea_popescu: you know, prior
to
the internet MOST GIRLS didn't know
they can masturbate ?
mircea_popescu: i mean heck -
they had atomic
theory and didn't even build cyclotron
mircea_popescu: or
the famous "x should be enough for everyone", be it bytes, cray computers, what have you.