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asciilifeform: this is the only way where variant-wots work correctly, aha.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes just have it silenty discard all patches that aren't sealed properly for the narrow definition of properly neh ?
ben_vulpes: any suggestions on where up the tree to nuke a branch and reduce complexity?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes to my eyes "the situation" ie, the developer's own private choice, illustrates the natural tendency of one to cruft up his workbench.
ben_vulpes: i was a bit surprised that sb-ext:run-program did not signal a condition when the program so ran exited with something other than zero.
ben_vulpes: i explicitly tested error code downstream of sb-ext. it's not that it "doesn't pass error codes" it's that error code is surfaced in the process struct that sb-ext:run-program returns
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if it didn't pass error codes, how the hell did it work to detect if sig was valid
ben_vulpes: the situation's a good example of the tension between writing code that does one thing really specifically well, and fits-in-head, vs a larger program that handles eg conditions and the concomittant complexity
ben_vulpes: so i'm writing some trivial conditions for when it does fail, which means handling eg missing gpg keys
ben_vulpes: sb-ext, and rail at me for using an implementation-dependent sub program library if you will, does not seem to signal error conditions when external programs exit with nonzero code
mircea_popescu: anyway alf has it - there's no need to handle what you list other than by not using them
BingoBoingo: hanbot: pls to color code your keyboards
mircea_popescu: what does this kill ?
ben_vulpes: 'tis the obvious characters.
BingoBoingo: Framedragger: ty fxd
ben_vulpes: what guarantees have i of this "should"?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm happy to implement post-patch hash checks
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: "#trilema logs" href in http://qntra.net/about/ points to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/
asciilifeform: this is the correct behaviour.
ben_vulpes: "help" is the motherfucking dog whistle of the left
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6: subject of "making things 1000x more complex" i embarked on handling various conditions a v might encounter (missing pubkey, unsigned patch, mismatched hashes after a press...) and i daresay the volume of code must increase!
mircea_popescu: it's hard out there for a cuck when tryina make da money for da lulz
BingoBoingo: OMG Have these cucks never lulzd?
mircea_popescu: yeah, you know, the professed liberals care!
BingoBoingo: What I have found interesting is that the professed liberals only began reacting to it when I posed the possibility after 24 hours."
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes just like the wiki page, "other salads"
asciilifeform: theoretical boost of 1.5x of bitrate, in exchange for making the debiaser 1000x moar complex
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's mildly amusing to watch internet people act under a very earnest notion that the portion of any one thing that they ran across has, grace to half a minute's meditation, formed a complete and useful image in their heads.
ben_vulpes: nono, the diqsux comment
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 16:17 ben_vulpes: http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2017/1/211100-pure-randomness-extracted-from-two-poor-sources/fulltext << asciilifeform: in which the acm tells the world that fuckgoats was tin woman overkill
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-25#1590439 << i read the original crapolade last year ☝︎
mircea_popescu: disqus is a pos ; but if you give it a day and a half eventually it jumps to the spot.
BingoBoingo did not get to comments
mircea_popescu: "qntra the serene republic"
mircea_popescu: was mostly for teh comments discussing you.
BingoBoingo: WTF, of course he's happy to "begin anew". All his old shit is gone and now he gets those sweet gentile insurance premiums.
mircea_popescu: also looks like this is the first time anyone read that article since 2014. who knew nobody gives a shit about wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: ^ from the history. check out what isn't a reliable source. epic shit.
mircea_popescu: (cur | prev) 01:18, 10 May 2014‎ Agyle (talk | contribs)‎ . . (4,611 bytes) (-40)‎ . . (removed reference to mpex.co, not reliable source, and didn't seem to verify information anyway. see WP:RS.) (undo)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ahaha check out all the effort they put into it. "the website", really ?
ben_vulpes: i only really know what one of the courses is, am content to let the chefs work their surprise magic
ben_vulpes: i'm not even going to start on the five courses currently under preparation
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> i went around distributing tinned biscuits this morning. <- it gave me this fleeting image of a red-hatted mp with a huge jar going round the neighbourhood
ben_vulpes: i assume good mushroom, $girl went out and selected them from the hipsters herself
mircea_popescu: it's somewhat regrettable we can't house visit and try these.
ben_vulpes stares at the half gingerbread cake
mircea_popescu: how's tinned biscuits you ask ? why, you take a gingerbread round, put it in a jar lid, cover it in rum and there you go - tinned biscuit!
mircea_popescu: i went around distributing tinned biscuits this morning.
ben_vulpes: where 'convince' is something along the lines of "no seriously you have all the ingredients it would be a sin to not make it. also i want it. so..."
ben_vulpes: and i have 'convinced' the girls to make the traditional family coffee cake
ben_vulpes: but this was not enough for me
ben_vulpes: there are several dozens of eggs worth of quiche in this house right now, and myriad cakes
mircea_popescu: funny, that's what i'm having!
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "To all BNet visitors, due to unprecedented scamming on the BNet Forum, we have been forced to shut the facility down. We are looking at alternative systems that will allow us to restart the Forum under a much better security protocol. We hope to be able to restart the Forum sometime in the New Year. Thank you for visiting the Forum and hope to see you again there in the New Year. To all who had signed up, we
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/grinch-netanyahu-deliver-christmas-scolding-to-ambassadors/ << Qntra - Grinch Netanyahu Deliver Christmas Scolding To Ambassadors
mircea_popescu: i don't expect the 19th century occultist came back ?
mircea_popescu: so who's this "helena blavatsky" chick
BingoBoingo: Particular example was offensive, but "sitting in a car" seems like its on its way to becoming the new "nailgun accident"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo anyway, it's particularly offensive because the dood was the stereotypical lush-with-hallucinated-war-stories.
ben_vulpes: in other nyooz, $offspring issued his first low-ambiguity ASL gesture this morning: 'food'
ben_vulpes: ah yes, eight is a better number than ten.
ben_vulpes: in ten slides
BingoBoingo: The stupidity that hits a critical mass and becomes "Hussein Bahamas presentes: How the World Works"
BingoBoingo trying to try to describe examples of the sort of infectious stupidity that makes losers hold up loser "heros" instead of actual heros
BingoBoingo: Where what is proper is that things in the bar get old because bar gets old
BingoBoingo: Or why bars get filled fake old crap just because one bar filled with old crap managed to open a second location back in the day.
BingoBoingo: Until those get the Zamac treatment too
BingoBoingo: Screw get softer, except some people make tougher OMGWTFBBQ wood screws for the purpose of framing more thing whish probably ought not be wood of wood.
mircea_popescu: ya think ? i guess.
mircea_popescu: yes but if they know this why do they also insist to suck cunt of all things.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They fail to point it out because they suck and their heros need to suck.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how the fuck all these mytologizing gimps fail to point out that loch ness' job was to bring down al capone, AT WHICH JOB HE FAILED ? he's like the che guevara of the gynecaeum i swear.
BingoBoingo: I mean in St Louis they also got governor elect's wife
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they do have a point, man at wheel is uniquely vulnerable, law doesn't much help.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah that one was a "Lives matter" activist turned state legislator
phf: mircea_popescu: triad?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Parked car predators know no limits after Micheal Brown put all that fear into poor Ferguson police officer back in 2014.
mircea_popescu: phf ftr you definitely gotta see the recent triad if you haven't already.
mircea_popescu suspects the proper romanian expletive to discuss these dorks would be "sa-mi bag pula-n ei de figuranti ; ma pis pe ma-sa si-i dau foc."
phf: haha, well, we're on the same page. i have a soft spot for shoulder pads, because that's your 80s moscows, blade runner, so i just can't see them in terms of "hear me roar". but i think we had the whole sean young thread before..
mircea_popescu: heh. did this one also torture martians / rape baby seals or is he from the other side of the Great Delusion.
BingoBoingo: Well, yeah, now it is the "urban" http://qntra.net/2016/12/missouri-state-representative-elect-bruce-franks-robbed-at-gunpoint/
mircea_popescu: but hey, provincial towns gotta copy new york don;t they.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and has been, since at least the 70s. we used to call the 2nd area "the bronx"
BingoBoingo: BUt anyways, the US is divided into two areas. Ones where you can sit in your car, make phone calls, and smoke all the cigarettes you want in said car; and places where if you sit in your car too long after car stops a child puts a gun in your face.
mircea_popescu: so, predictably, they just parasithized it, because of the wanna-be-woman faggotry, some wanna be woman "as historical essence" and some "as current fashion", so you ended up with that wham idiot doing shoulderpads and girly hairdos ; and sir what's his face, the fat ugly one doing "historical hats like queen liz"
mircea_popescu: ie, "feminist" made not "political-identity-gay" made. mostly because at the time gay==faggot, there wasn't a "political-identity-gay" machine.
mircea_popescu: they did tend to go mostly with lion's made hairdos for womenz.
mircea_popescu: i thought shoulderpads were the first dry run of the whole "i r lion hear me roar!" thing.
phf: aah, i see your point, though i'm not sure about the definition of a thing in relation to "really into". a thing is a fad. gays started this particular fad, "everyone" was on board for a bit, until the aids epidemic. i think shoulder pads for example are androgynous, likewise a fad
BingoBoingo: Well, there are many deserts of stupid and only so much coal. Most of which goes into lighting the desert of stupid
mircea_popescu: it has all the cachet and all the panache of a "christian rockstar" - the result of a trainload of philistine running out of coal in a desert of stupid.
mircea_popescu: that whole "prohibition heroes" thing was, and is, an incredibly transparent, and screamingly lame attempt by the puritan wanna-be preacher apparatus ( https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/fe/de/d0/feded087bb5b76da57473b6e7078ffaf.jpg << t5his guy ) to make up a socialist hero to go with the actual hero, the al capones, meyer lanskis and bugsy siegels.
BingoBoingo: WAS, stooges tend to lose their toughness when the age out of the stoogery in USG land
mircea_popescu: it's not even deep enough, because not only "he's all tough and shit like lock ness monster" claim holds , but the fducking monster ISNT TOUGH.
mircea_popescu: how can i distinguish this story from "roger ver, who once had the most bitcoins of anyone on the planet, thinks thedaoattacker would make a fine bitcoin developer" ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the fucking point is - whatever some old fart with a good old fart story the other old farts eat up THOUGHT, the street tough didn't think he made a good "fiedl operative". in positive fact he made a good victim and no more. << /me read it as old fart who was was befroe becoming old fart thought child robber would make good field operative. But the crime as I read is he doesn't figure that the child already is a field oe
mircea_popescu: once that went away, "the androgyny thing" that never was a thing to begin with ~if you weren't really into fucking boys~ also went away.
mircea_popescu: phf but my idea is... the "androgyny" thing only exists because gay dudes masquerading.
mircea_popescu: the fucking point is - whatever some old fart with a good old fart story the other old farts eat up THOUGHT, the street tough didn't think he made a good "fiedl operative". in positive fact he made a good victim and no more.