asciilifeform: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NYC-New-York-Hasidic-Jewish-Arrests-Mortgage-Fraud-FBI-Orange-County-282544591.html << more interesting

asciilifeform: (why? no one knows! but it was done.)

asciilifeform: ^ that one.

asciilifeform: http://peterelst.com/blog/2008/12/18/porting-doom-to-flash-interview-with-mike-welsh

asciilifeform: somebody even got 'doom' to build.

asciilifeform: that was a real riot, incidentally

asciilifeform: (a crackpot gcc port with... flash (!, yes) back-end)

asciilifeform: other than 'alchemy'

asciilifeform: adobe never once, afaik, published source for anything

asciilifeform: ^ yes.

asciilifeform actually uses a (very threadbare) 'wordpress'

asciilifeform: aha, reminiscent of msword html output.

asciilifeform: aha then likely.

asciilifeform innocent of 'dreamweaver', cannot say

asciilifeform: something which the archetypical 'indian replacement programmer' occupies himself with.

asciilifeform: aha no. he was speaking of 'glue code' in the sense of gluing heavy 'prefab' swaths together

asciilifeform: producing buckets upon buckets of boilerplate crud

asciilifeform: where gigantic swaths of (hesitate to even call it a) program - get 'written for you'

asciilifeform: menu-lookup writing of glue code << refers to systems like the (1990s? no idea if still fits this description) 'visual basic' and the like.

asciilifeform: (why this was relevant - i will explain later. assuming anyone still cares. and is awake.)

asciilifeform: original link dead many years ago, but - mirror.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: found it!! >> https://www.mail-archive.com/kragen-tol@canonical.org/msg00184.html

asciilifeform: but for some reason yes, google brings it up for 'real program or something somebody wrote'

asciilifeform: not the article in question though

asciilifeform: yeah i think we did that one here

asciilifeform: i don't own a computer 'fast' enough to 'flip' a pdf the way a dead tree heap can be flipped, and not sure if such a machine even exists.

asciilifeform: for instance, i like, e.g., ic data sheets, in dead tree.

asciilifeform: of the kind one may keep on a desk.

asciilifeform: when i say 'personal printer', i mean, in lieu of an actual printer.

asciilifeform: quite possibly no human ever even sees the result.

asciilifeform: they have, afaik, the whole thing automated. from 'pdf' to mailing crate.

asciilifeform: works great.

asciilifeform: for what it's worth, i routinely use 'lulu.com' as a personal printer.

asciilifeform: rather than glue

asciilifeform: lay-flat requires, i think, saddle-stitch binding

asciilifeform: still can't get, afaik, 'lay-flats' other than the spiral variety

asciilifeform: by now they have it to the level of the crappier mass-produced books.

asciilifeform: damn, wish i could find that ancient piece.

asciilifeform: ;;google is that a real program or is that something somebody wrote

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: i was thinking of a different envelope.

asciilifeform: it's a riot, actually

asciilifeform: with contents to match.

asciilifeform: not long ago, i opened yet another envelope in expectation of finding 'a book that was actually a book once' and got an ms-word formatted turd

asciilifeform: the great crime of the 'easy self publishing' of today's automagic laser-printer-with-binding-machine is... on the reader.

asciilifeform: self-licking ice cream cone << i learned the phrase from mr. mold, who used it to describe u.s. academia.

asciilifeform: or perhaps he is already being shaved and fitted with new uniform for the next gig.

asciilifeform: somebody wake up mats_cd03.

asciilifeform: because wtf.

asciilifeform: (or more fantastic example - ice cream. i have it on good authority that many american units in iraq were supplied even with it.)

asciilifeform: the phase transition may be the point where we leave 'desertion means no more toilet paper' and move to 'desertion means access to toilet paper.'

asciilifeform: to get their teeth done.

asciilifeform: american?

asciilifeform: who the hell wants to go native - there.

asciilifeform: this is why no going native.

asciilifeform: and printed on telephone book paper.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: they get those from usg.

asciilifeform: brought to mind the possibility that these were to be used in lieu of toilet paper.

asciilifeform: yes, generic 'books.'

asciilifeform: the one that always got me was the donation box for 'books'

asciilifeform: saw this, yes

asciilifeform: mats_cd03 ^^ ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not the first. i vaguely recall '1 flak jacket for 3 men' in the last one

asciilifeform: those who order the churn, have no concept that there will not be replacement ordered.

asciilifeform: so, gotta churn inventory.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remaining u.s. physical industry is 99% iraq-based (that is, hardware whose inventory must be churned in some iraq or other.)

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/13/eric-frein-terrorism-charges-pennsylvania-police-ambush

asciilifeform: as a 'zoologist' of these, can't help but notice the extraordinarily-obvious specimen in the wild.

asciilifeform: lol!

asciilifeform: 'what kind of fool would believe document from 'daily mail' ?'

asciilifeform: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826980/Winston-Churchill-s-bid-nuke-Russia-win-Cold-War-uncovered-secret-FBI-files.html << ideal example of 'crank bait' method. perfectly factual allegation, regarded as nearly hundred percent proven by ru historians for decades. 'smoking gun' finally out. what does lizard hitler do? orders it printed in 'daily mail.'

asciilifeform not enamoured with postel's law

asciilifeform: !s postel's law

asciilifeform can only speak for the programming

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also in the permanent deformations of the respective organs.

asciilifeform: it was 'osama' originally.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: misprint. they fired the monkey.

asciilifeform: (from, naturally, rt: http://russian.rt.com/article/58508#ixzz3IUAu0a71 )

asciilifeform: http://static.oper.ru/data/site/obama.png

asciilifeform: jurov: this is not a working example

asciilifeform: (line number idiocy)

asciilifeform: in that, for example, all of the patches submitted so far will break if one is removed from the chain.

asciilifeform: also i don't remember if i reminded anyone of this, but unix 'patch' utility is rather braindead.

asciilifeform: so what will be the convention for submitting 'patch note with sig' ?

asciilifeform: in that respect, all of the patches i (and the 2 other fellows) offered so far, are monolithic.

asciilifeform: rather than 'one line of code' (try reading the result!) or somesuch.

asciilifeform: as in, 'and here we remove the nuclear detonator'

asciilifeform: when i originally suggested 'one change', it was a semantic thing

asciilifeform is a little confused here

asciilifeform: 1 change as in, 1 line?

asciilifeform: mono patches?

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: these matters were considered by engineers since hammurabi.

asciilifeform: my question was, that day, 'sign under what'

asciilifeform: this was actually a point i brought up when mircea_popescu said 'one day you shall earn bread by signing code' or something to that effect

asciilifeform: to be clear, my suggestion concerned how to write patches.

asciilifeform: 'here we remove https.'

asciilifeform: e.g., 'here we burn gavin's broadcaster out with hot iron.'

asciilifeform: that a patch, a particular one, is a particular identifiable 'thing.'