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tg2: ok, I didn't read that in the delisting doc
tg2: yes i just read it actually
benkay: like i'm twelve, please.
tg2: I think there is a need for this kind of liability secured "trust"
tg2: no but I think that now would be time for that
neilol: yeah dignork you're right. I'm thinking something like a KPMG or Deloitte would do
dexX7: ah, i think that was what i meant, neilol
neilol: i guess
zacm: the article is from 2014-03-19 but I only saw it today from this bitcointalk post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553092.0
zacm: so this is disconcerting to see the lemmings on bitcointalk cheer on us gov action against mpex people. bitcoin community must be eagerly anticipating govcoin i guess
tg2: which secret agenda am I pushing here lol
dexX7: i think zacm is legit, have seen him in #bitfunder for a long time
benkay: did i hear truffles is back?
gx: i also have to bow out for some beers, it's been a pleasure, thanks for the lambasting everyone
diametric: so, i'm sifting through the scrollback. some kind of daytrading tool coming out soon?
mircea_popescu: i wanna be here to liveblog it when it happens.
mircea_popescu: plz don't break bitcoin while i
mircea_popescu: anyway. i gotta go now to stand trial as a witness in a civil proceeding @ a local bar, so.
gx: i've been idling in here for quite awhile, just dont speak up much
gx: mircea_popescu i'm just a coder, but my biz partner has experience with quant and we have advisors who are daytraders
gx: i swear i have one
gx: and i'm still digging up my otc account
mircea_popescu: some sort of autotrader script or am i not following ?
rithm: it's a genus or a species i do not reminder
gx: guess not- i've bought and sold via irc though. a few years ago. guess i'll register with otc and then all will be well
gx: anyways. my otc nick wouldve been gxdia or guardia, guess i didnt deal with that. maybe i'm thinking of litecoin otc
gx: i'm trying to remember, it was a damn long time ago
gx: mircea_popescu i'm just a coder with ambition, that's all. and i've done trades on otc, just not under this nick
truffles: i think theyre being nice though
gx: i don't care if anyone hates me, i pasted it here for a reason, harshest critics :)
truffles: i wont hate u
gx: i appreciate any help- and i expected criticism. main thing is just trying to get the word out.
truffles: dude i can shorten this up for u
kakobrekla: i have no idea what standards you got to apply for 'major'
TomServo: truffles: exactly where I stopped reading.
rithm: i'm not a coy nigger
pankkake: maybe because I'm French, coinigy is hard to pronounce
kakobrekla: i dont see any pictures so whatever content you got there is gone
truffles: if its great, i wont say one bad word
gx: kakobrekla i'm just ribbing you a little bit
kakobrekla: as far as i can tell
gx: i'm not getting whitespace so i'm just inquiring
gx: i understand, i was curious if you were getting whitespace on coinigy.com vs the link i gave you
kakobrekla: i get about 1000 px of white space first
kakobrekla: when i open that link
khersonus: "less than 20s of delay. This number will be lowered in time to only a few seconds." << I don't think I'd call that "low latency"
kakobrekla: dunno i would say you faild to convey the message
gx: https://twitter.com/Coinigy/status/451094162037673984 <- fuck it. i dont understand social media. share it if you care
domsch: ou I definitely do - we will open-source it all.
domsch: haha - no I hope I don’t. But it’s most stereotypes with locals. I live in the Alps and people around here are process driven: You go to school, college, then you work for someone for a ffew years and ONLY then you can consider running the show.
domsch: as a young kid that is just getting started, doing the above is pretty much the “only way” to prepare oneself. A problem that I have seen in the past is that a lot of people are reluctant to work with youngsters like me - which I do really understand.
domsch: I wouldn’t say fuck-up. I am rather trying to participate and be actively involved.
twizt: open question: anyone know how i can pull the kraken spot price using their api? where do I insert the symbol/pair on the url to retrieve the price?
twizt: i didnt say he was a fuck up lol
truffles: ill wait for the spam n check it out i gues
truffles: i wouldnt wanna be good at that nonetheless
truffles: i enjoy poking at u mp cuz others dont seem to dare :D
truffles: u want to know why i left n returned just ask
truffles: i happen all the time dood
mircea_popescu: <twizt> i wonder how much money neobee wasted on all that promotional crap << me too. but it doesn't seem like theres ever going to be a report.
thestringpuller: Man i love this channel
twizt: We have written it, I shall be done
twizt: I shall be we
domsch: and don’t worry. I won#t be the Chief Compliance Officer, President, CEO, developer and support staff of this project lol
twizt: i wonder how much money neobee wasted on all that promotional crap
domsch: yeh I definitely understand where this is coming from. As people say: “It doesn’t matter what your idea is, it only mattes who you know.” That’s why I’m trying to be surrounded by the right guys. I am working on the networkign right now and meet the right people that have been there, done it.
mircea_popescu: twizt i mean
domsch: I am not in this space to make a buck and seize every tiny opportunity, or even try to scam people. I’m here for the bigger picture. I may be young, I may be dumb - but I am trying.
domsch: I can tell you a personal story, how I tried to run my first startup, (a performance based advertising network, known as CPA = Cost Per Action) and how I was scammed out of my last $1000 and had to work over the summer as a construction worker to get enough money to continue working on the project.
domsch: Good read. And I definitely agree with you on some of the aspects that young people (of my age, younger or older) are in this space to grasp an opportunity - these are the people that don’t see the future, the long-term benefit. These are the people that are there to fuck you in the ass when they see the slightest chance to get away with a few bucks.
mircea_popescu: and i do mean read it.
domsch: and I have never owned an xbox.
domsch: I am actually 18. And I’m german.
twizt: I am we
domsch: yes I really like what Bigfoot is doing. I don’t think that anyone in this space can be treated as a competitor (in broad perspective of course) - we are mostly all after the same and pursue the same ideals.
tg2: I guess there just needs to be more liability there
tg2: yeah I think the reality is it would be possible
Namworld: I'm not sure how such a system would work to actually prevent fraud. Unless that system had exclusive amangement of funds. But then running a business would be close of impossible if all money spent needs to be approved by shareholders.
tg2: I knew somebodyw as working on a wallet-splitter where you sent to an address and it split it by a fixed % and sent back out to the other x addresses
ThickAsThieves: I thought I had answered my own question after I sent my message to you. I thought your answer was going to be "Because all of the coins are stored in the public addresses on the home page, and everyone would see we were filtering out money". Do the coins all stay in the wallets posted on the home page (until dividends are paid), or do they get moved around in storage?
ThickAsThieves: For example, if I took 10 btc of SD earnings and rebet it over and over and over, eventually it would all be owned to the shareholders on mpex because they would see that the site had xxxxxxx in bets and xxxxxxx in profit owed to them.
ThickAsThieves: Am I missing something about the setup that prevents this?"
ThickAsThieves: it's why i made a forum account
ThickAsThieves: it was actually the first thing i ever did in bitcoin communication, sent a msg to erik asking how it could be proven he wasnt stealing
Namworld: Afaik it was not Voorhees' I think, just one of the private shareholder selling. I suppose accusations come from people who bought then.
Namworld: People complained because new shares were put up and sold in the 0.004-0.006 range if I recall right, for about 5 million shares?
Namworld: 10 million at 0.0022 and 0.0027 I think it was, in two slices. Or was it 3?
Namworld: They got like .0032 instead of ~0.0011 I think as the sale price commanded.
mircea_popescu: afaik there was this longstanding theory that erik is betting with himself. i never could see any proof for it, people were welcome to find it etc.
mircea_popescu: tough tits for them. i was not kidding when i said their future is at stake. it is.
tg2: I know people involved in the awesomepennystocks.com fiasco
Namworld: If I recall right, I bought afterward, when price was much lower, not long before SD sold.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, they get a pitchfork mob going, and i'll have to hire a security detail around the shop.
Namworld: Afaik, I think it was not Erik that sold shares over IPO, but the offer was other shareholders that wanted to sell at those high prices?
Namworld: I suppose especially those who bought from the slices of shares over IPO prices.
Namworld: Not too hard I suppose, but yeah, what Mircea said.
Namworld: and that's the point I was talking about. I don't care about people believing them to be official because of that. It's not like it's their problem or anyone's to go put disclaimers on everything so people don't have to think and just follow directions.
tg2: i see
mike_c: geez, i am starting to sound like you.
Namworld: Did they ever claim to be official? I recall seeing claims of being the largest discussion forum about Bitcoin and that's it.