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ben_vulpes: still gotta fuckin quarantine
the
thing when it shows up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform masamune;d better be. ben_vulpes hey, find
the hole, get a prize.
ben_vulpes: actually whole
thing is likely just a ploy
to get pre-rooted boxen into republican ops
mircea_popescu: the original proposition was "hooker-ready laptop". i can see
the "value add".
☟︎ ben_vulpes: no i'm going
to plug my ears say neener and make it gabriel_laddel's problem
ben_vulpes: and all
the hours spent changing belts and capplugs
ben_vulpes: why in
the not gentooing your own boxes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suspicion is unwarranted for
the following reason : if he was aware he's packaging crap, he'd not be courting you ; or him. because unlike him you do have wwws. so either he's patently insane or else got something. in either case, a few hundy, not
the end of
the world. a decent escort is ~same.
ben_vulpes: now if only i could find a graceful way
to muffle compiler warnings for functions...
mircea_popescu: dude he sold 4 boxes, if he makes enough for a decent meal out of
that he's ahead of
the game.
ben_vulpes: someone's going
to have
to fuel
the meth habit for another month
to pop
this one
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of which, gabriel_laddel_p why not packaging fuckgoats with
the masamunes ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu chuckles privately at all
teh folk imparting phonetic content
through frowning peculiarly at everyday alphabetic notation. oh mu-ne is it!
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: say
that you derp around with MGL_MAT and make a neat handwriting recognition module like
the HP Compaq
TC1100 had.
gabriel_laddel_p: I don't want someone
to be able
to look up a webpage and debate you about what it is
that
they get.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform:
to move fiat monies into republican coffers. You all get free reign
to sell masamune and
take 100% of profits past buying
the first one.
gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: I have 4 other people who want
them/one. Need
to organize my
thoughts, stop reading about [redacted] and actually respond
to
their emails.
ben_vulpes: well i'm just on
tenterhooks waiting
to learn what's so cryptworthy
phf: also sbcl got some balls.
they've been adding all
this stuff, don't do
this, don't do
that. i suppose you can either muffle it, or just not optional
the second argument and pass nil everytime
there's nothing. fwiw your code always has an argument list, so it's non issue
gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: will be (figuring out how
to, and
then) sending you an encrypted gpg
thingy
tomorrow.
ben_vulpes: anyways, otaku gaijin shit aside a) do you have videos of
this
thing working or am i supposed
to believe
that it does because you now have a key you can use and b) how much for
the whole circus, delivered
gabriel_laddel_p: Incidentally, it is pronounced "maza-mune". Yes, yes, as you wrote is
technically how
they say it in japan, but it sounds stupid.
ben_vulpes: are you describing yourself or people you want
to respond
to whatever
that was asciilifeform quoted?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 04:25 ben_vulpes reconsidering
that masamoone box
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: how do i know you're not running
the longest and lowest-dough scam with
these masamune boxen?
ben_vulpes: "swiss cheese"
then meaning something like "notions are
touching each other for no reason other
than
that's how
the air bubbles formed"?
ben_vulpes: so
that
there are a set of operations
that just happen
to be implemented with "external programs" is no reason
their errors should inherit from "external program" errors
phf: you have a set of (incomplete and adhoc, but
there) crypto operations.
they speak
their own language.
they can succeed,
they can fail, but none of
that has
to do with "external programs".
that's a different set of operations
that deals with unix etc.
that speaks its own language
phf: no,
that's no
the issue, it's more like a complexity along arbitrary lines
ben_vulpes: probably pointless complexity
that could be snipped in favor of simple errors everywhere?
phf: but your bad-signature is an external-program-error, so
the whole
things is a swiss chese
phf: well, more important whose reporting
the failure. if you want
to pass
through
to
the user
the fact
that
there's a shell call out somewhere and it has all kinds of mechanisms. but verify should probably speak for itself in its own
terms.
ben_vulpes: otherwise may as well nuke everything in
the unrecoverable branch
phf: well, it's only interesting if you're going
to restart, otherwise..
ben_vulpes: i read "handler-case destroys
the call stack" and
thought
to myself "if i can avoid
that, i probably should".
mircea_popescu: it does have volcanic activity, so it's not
that. it DOES spin,
though perhaps
too slow.
mircea_popescu: btw, what's
the latest in crackpottery re venus lack of magnetosphere ?
ben_vulpes: brin mentioned a
trick with endothermic lasers
mircea_popescu: we got all
these global warming experts,
they'll capture
the co2 or something
mircea_popescu: point is,
there are expensive
things and cheap
things. compensating for a lack of atmosphere is fucking expensive. properly cooling is nothing compared.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 01:56 phf: i'd write it as (cmd &optional args &key input), because you always have
to provide cmd (where's right now you can write (run) and
the compiler won't catch it), more often
than not you have
to provide args and sometimes you have
to provide input
mircea_popescu: other
than well chosen jupiter satellites, venus is
the
ticket.
mircea_popescu: why's everyone always skip over venus ? mars is
too hot ;
the moon is
too small. neither make any fucking sense.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:41 phf: i'm going
to stop wall of
texting
the log
though
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:34 phf: heh,
this is straight up rubyism
http://btcbase.org/patches/veh-genesis#L145. it would've been much cheaper
to (defstruct hashed-path path hash) and so
that later you don't have
to poor man datastructure by (gethash 'path ...) (gethash 'hash ...) all over
the place
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:25 phf: also in
the same handler-bind you're losing a branch. if
there's an error, but it's not "BAD signature",
then
the whole verify silently succeeds. you probably want
to (error c) in
the else branch
to rethrow whatever
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:17 phf:
there's not much discipline on unix with stderr/stdout. particularly gpg seems cavalier with it. so i wouldn't even bother with error/output separation. i'd make it always return a single value, string
that's combined stdout/stderr, and fail when status code is not equal
to zero. maybe add a key argument,
that splits
them if need be, but only once
there's need.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 01:58 phf: also as a rule you don't really want
to let string output streams escape
their scope.
they don't have standard
type (one cmucl it's lisp::string-output-stream for example), so you can't
test for it, and for all intents and purposes
they act as incomplete builders: you can't do anything with
them except get
their value, so why not get value
there and
then?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 01:56 phf: i'd write it as (cmd &optional args &key input), because you always have
to provide cmd (where's right now you can write (run) and
the compiler won't catch it), more often
than not you have
to provide args and sometimes you have
to provide input
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:41 phf: i'm going
to stop wall of
texting
the log
though
mircea_popescu: "To whomever it may concern - I strongly advise against hiring
the bearer of
this letter, as she is not sufficiently qualified
to
take a piss."
mircea_popescu: what
the fuck happened
to "can her in front of
the whole staff, in
the
terms
that she may seek employment once she conquers
the requirements for preschool ; and if she wants a recomendation letter
this is going in
the first paragraph."
mircea_popescu: "Obesity can be a disability in
the EU.
That makes it a sticky legal issue and given
that she is
the lone female,
that makes it doubly so. If she's
transgendered (which is possible given
that she stands up apparently)
then it's
triply so.
This is so intertwined in legal ramifications I can't imagine anything you can say or do (other
than what you are already)
that doesn't need a lawyer
to make sure you don't end up in a suit.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:17 phf:
there's not much discipline on unix with stderr/stdout. particularly gpg seems cavalier with it. so i wouldn't even bother with error/output separation. i'd make it always return a single value, string
that's combined stdout/stderr, and fail when status code is not equal
to zero. maybe add a key argument,
that splits
them if need be, but only once
there's need.
phf: it's an "overkill" for a "unix script", because you
throw all
that data out anyway soon after constructing it. but in a lisp instance, when you already have all
that data in
the ~correct form~ you can start writing a dozen of different functions
to analyze it, without getting bogged down on format
trivia all over
the place
phf: fwiw btcbase parses path component into a pathname, and
the hash is (member nil bignum)
phf: been (if (not (hashed-path-hash c)) ...) because you ~reader~ should've already massaged it all into
the kind of data computers understand. btcbase uses nil for empty hashes, you could have :empty or whatever, but certainly not carying strings and dictionaries all over
the place.