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jurov: how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs?
jurov: i have a dedicated method for it by now...
dub: dashboard sowing no orders since a few minues
punkman: here's a relaxing landscape http://i.imgur.com/DRRKbHw.jpg
asciilifeform: punkman: almost certainly going to build an automatic paste printer, however. pumping paste through a handheld nozzle under microscope is a misery.
punkman: I got a few chinese industrial lenses, you probably want to avoid the cheap ones
punkman: asciilifeform: you putting together a pick n place?
dub: I was watching the site but yes I see a trade now
mircea_popescu: dub seems a little quiet << assbot won't relay till i get a hold of kako to allow teh connections.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform co's taking a little break, back later.
mircea_popescu: are you using a cached copy of the faq ?
dub: seems a little quiet
mircea_popescu: making a post nao.
mircea_popescu: i am a man with a much whiter beard.
dub: left a sleep out of my loop :)
dub: some providers do a 6 hour push for eg
dub: either you have no mpex.co zone on there or its waiting a rehup oslt
assbot: C64 SID-Chip programmer took a hit of his bong - YouTube
dub: create a records for ns1/2 polimedia
mircea_popescu: what ceasefire, that thing'll be going for a decade.
dub: this question 'what should you take to a $site', options ID, changte request, then lists three different access card types
dub: there was a bomb threat slide, which was particularly stupid in that I failed it
dub: HS learning team have a combined IQ of 17
BingoBoingo: Time's not a real thing anyway
dub: there is a clock on my microwave sothere
asciilifeform often wonders about thermal behaviour of the semiconductor widgetry connected to such clocks, and whether anyone even gives a fuck
bitstein: On a symbolic level, I like how the banner image has varying degrees of clarity.
decimation: yeah a grand seiko quartz should be less than 1 second per month based on their internal spec
BingoBoingo: Most days I get by fine with a malaysian automatic winding movement when I care/remember to wear it.
Diablo-D3: it doesnt need to have a great onboard clock
BingoBoingo: Well sure it was originally US made, but when things break... And in a high power broadcase facillity shit breaks
Diablo-D3: mine loses about half a minute every year
BingoBoingo: I think a rhubidium "grandfather clock" at home is a better solution to the problem of "watch has shitty crystals" than WWVB's chicom signal.
decimation: apparently the firmware in the watch: 1.) doesn't use WWVB to correct its long-term frequency error 2.) produces a one-second offset when synced to WWVB
Diablo-D3: I have a g-shock
decimation: no it's a casio g-shock
assbot: How to adjust the accuracy of a G-Shock
BingoBoingo: Also Where the fuck are the Kurds? They are more a thing than refering to Iraq in the singular now.
BingoBoingo: If ever there were a chart which should have just been filled with "It's complicated"
decimation: re: crap quartz clocks: I wondered how they did this in cell phones, because the absolute frequency is required to be within a certain range
BingoBoingo: Oh it does. I'm just trying to play a game with myself of which comments are psyops from what side, which are parody, and which are just feeding the trols
BingoBoingo: The comments here make a nice lens for paranoid about psyops http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/07/20/206205/russian-government-edits-wikipedia-on-flight-mh17
BingoBoingo: So now there's a paper that helps to explain MPEx and threaten Rassah's usb wallet
asciilifeform digs for ancient paper regarding maliciously estimating a remote machine's temperature using userspace-observable clock drifts
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, you still scramble madly for a week as you chase cesium precision
asciilifeform: likewise - perhaps there is no need to point this out, but the linux/bsd kernel is also not a scientific instrument. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what, and pass the chance to scramble madly for a week ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's fractions of a ms.
asciilifeform: incidentally, quartz oscillators generally don't come in the GHz range. there's a fairly modest (<100MHz) crystal and a PLL multiplier. which compounds any error...
mircea_popescu: it limits a lot of things ;/
BingoBoingo: I've long imagined a wrist portable watch with RTG (RTG also heats crystal) I'm resigned to knowing such a device probably wouldn't have the power to offer man readable time without an unacceptable risk of wrist cancer
asciilifeform: back to clocks: it is grave mistake to regard a pc clock as a scientific instrument. you can get pretty good thermal stability out of a quartz resonator, using an 'oven' (more or less just like kitchen oven, in miniature - maintain controlled temperature.) but this is never found in a consumer appliance.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> how about the entire fucking ocean floor is a mesh network of bacteria guys // okay
BingoBoingo: This Dontesk Republic is basically just like a standard Hollywood sequel to Transndstria i.e. moar explosions
mircea_popescu: BORODAI, Aleksandr (a.k.a. BORODAI, Alexander); DOB 25 Jul 1972; nationality Russia (individual) [UKRAINE]. <<< aww, no prime minister of donetsk republic ? tsk tsk
assbot: Turning a rubidium standard into a proper tool
BingoBoingo: http://hackaday.com/2013/08/05/turning-a-rubidium-standard-into-a-proper-tool/
asciilifeform: a traditional pc comes with at least 2 measurable oscillators (cpu crystal and 18hz real time clock)
mircea_popescu: well, i built a rng oscillator. go me.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is actually a traditional means of generating 'hardware entropy' on a pc. i rediscovered it as a kid, thought i 'had something nice'
BigBitz: silicon/ASICs have a tendncy to be better than 'shit;
BigBitz: clocks have a tendancy to be 'shit'
mircea_popescu: a U with a very long bottom ?
asciilifeform: short version - bacterium isn't a sled dog. he won't work if he doesn't 'want' to. (expressed in actual flesh as the formulation: the ones without the 'work' trait - e.g. secreting dope - tend to outperform their 'useful' peers in reproduction)
asciilifeform: the point about 'liveware generally doesn't wanna be used' can only be appreciated by folks who tried to breed industrially useful bacteria (e.g. e. coli secreting a saleable substance) - and the problems in that business
mircea_popescu: can anyone explain to me why would latency be ever so slightly more going one way through a wire than coming the oher way ? same identical endpoints.
mircea_popescu: i dunno asciilifeform, i hear a lot of "please use me hard master" from some of the higher order "nature's computers".
asciilifeform: used. Machines aren't supposed to be like that. Machines are supposed to do what you want. Which means that both the designer and the user need to control them.' (one mr. kreinin, with whom i have a number of disagreements, some public, but good point about meatware. -- http://yosefk.com/blog/high-level-cpu-follow-up.html)
asciilifeform: 'I want to build machines to do stuff that someone "like us" wouldn't want to do, for any of the several reasons (the job is hard/boring/stinky/whatever). And once I've built them, I want people to be able to use them. Please note this last point. People and other "nature's computers", like animals and fungi, aren't supposed to be "used". In fact, all those systems spend a huge amount of resources to avoid being
mircea_popescu: how about the entire fucking ocean floor is a mesh network of bacteria guys
asciilifeform: i distinctly recall seeing just such a chart about a year ago
mircea_popescu: actually this may be a good thing to do for a blogger : make the altcoin history chart.
BingoBoingo: In between namecoin and the Scrypt pre-mined anscestors of LTC there were a lot of other forgettable alts, many mergemined.
mircea_popescu: o yeah, darkcoin had a "tenebrix" early run. anyway, aborted all.
mircea_popescu: dub no, just because people are a) poor and b) cluieless, in that order
mircea_popescu: dub more's to it. as i explained to asciilifeform a while ago, it actually makes it impossible to be evil in raport to it.
asciilifeform: i imagine everyone who ever cracked a book is familiar with island ecosystems and their doomed flightless birds...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform time has compressed since then. their ability to hold out had a lot to do with the difficulty of seafaring then, and lack of satellites.
mircea_popescu: modern science has not yet found a way to shove it back into the womb.
mircea_popescu: takes one guy five minutes to give a woman a child.
dub: so right there, a 90% mining cabal
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has been enacted by the fiat of a few important people, a few years ago, exactly in the same manner. they weren't THAT important as a % of the world, but that doesn't matter : bitcoin can't be un-enacted by the fiat of much larger entities. it has a cost of x to make and 1mn x aren't enough to undo it.
mircea_popescu: so : atc is not driven by "user adoption". it's driven by the fact that i'm buying it. in this context, if "evil" entity decides to just mine all the blocks, nobody gives a shit. so txn aren't included ? whatever.
mircea_popescu: this situation actually allows a window be thrown into bitcoin, to understand how it works. jesus atc is useful, props tat.
mircea_popescu: dub how does this make a diff ?
dub: is that a chain hopping pool though or atc dedi?
dub: you sure? at a glance the diff doesnt look right
benkay: if you're 95% of a given network...
thickasthieves: <+benkay> thickasthieves: is atc a merge-mine thing? /// no, but i think it could be, and if it is, i might be willing to put some funds towards the dev, but no one wants my money so far
benkay: is there a hashpower command?
assbot: Charla de introduccin a Bitcoin - Meetup Bitcoin Argentina (Buenos Aires)- Meetup
mthreat: mircea_popescu: there's a bitcoin meetup wednesday, at a local bar that accepts btc for drinks: http://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Argentina/events/195793132/
benkay: thickasthieves: is atc a merge-mine thing?
mircea_popescu: Fairlay you know, it may be a good idea to get in the wot.
assbot: Can a Thumbcat - Play Checkers? - YouTube
mircea_popescu: dude this entire bitcoin-assets system with its tools is turning me into a fucking singularity, im like brain on steroids.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nsa-sponsored attempt to survive << they won't really worry until wintel stops being a thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't read the comments yet, but I wonder how many read it as a proposal for linux developments as opposed to IBM advertorial
benkay: can one do merged-mining on a premined coin?
BingoBoingo: Some dude wants to turn Linux into System/z http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-management/resource-management-and-control-a-straw-proposal-for-linux.html