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diana_coman: lol; but yes, no sense
there, not sure anybody claimed sense in C
types
mircea_popescu: "i read about
the
types, none make any sense,
they just keep declaring, what
the fuck is it and how should you know!"
mircea_popescu: 90% of my audible output was "your question can not be answered in
that general form".
tears were shed, of rage and frustration.
towards
the
third day i recited from
the molieben of st naggum,
the part where he says c makes people lie, and
there was
THANK YOU! GOOD GOD!
☟︎ diana_coman: hm; do you mean
they had it all nicely and well done in pseudo-code/whatever logical structure and
THEN
they just failed miserably
to
translate
that
to C code?
mircea_popescu: all everyone ever sees are people 10+ years into
the dementia. and
the "sense"
things make
to
them.
mircea_popescu: it's hard, C i mean, in
that it is nonsensical. nobody appreciates
truly just how nonsensical it is (except eg naggum, he wrote about it) because nobody actually keeps slaves, in
the proper sense of
the
term, and
thus nobody gets
to see an actual, balanced human mind interact with
the ball of insanity.
mircea_popescu: fwiw i personally "shoulder surfed" as i hear it's called
two diff people who
tried
their fucking best
to do it. in
the end managed as much as
to get a command registered and
to say hi world! but
that was all. well over 30 hours of brow sweat.
diana_coman: kind of curious what does pete_dushenski consider as "results" in such a case: number of participants?
the "atmosphere"?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-02 20:28 Framedragger: (and according
to .kr banks, have a few people sit at
table and literally stare at
teams, making notes. such conservative bank, hasn't changed
them into robots yet)
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski eh i'd much rather discuss
teh comments
there!
a111: Logged on 2017-01-02 19:39 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Remeber
that while David is poor servant of Eros, Petrus is great servant of Priapus!
Framedragger: We
think
that Key Escrow is a Bad
Thing; however
the user should have
the freedom
to decide whether
to go
to prison or
to reveal
the content of one specific message without compromising all messages ever encrypted for one secret key. DON'T USE IT UNLESS YOU ARE REALLY FORCED
TO DO SO."
Framedragger: "Display
the session key used for one message. See --override-session-key for
the counterpart of
this option.
Framedragger: (but
then, duplication different cache layers != "general gpu cache for everyone yolo!1")
a111: Logged on 2017-01-02 18:21 mircea_popescu: rather
than everyone just using
the cache like it were a gpu
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-02#1595160 << right! (well, some duplication is not bad in itself - os can be dumb about higher-level cache but may want something for optimising/aligning disk i/o and so on. but
this sometimes leads
to complexity it appears, and may be unwanted in
the first place (e.g. in phuctor)...)
☝︎ Framedragger: (and according
to .kr banks, have a few people sit at
table and literally stare at
teams, making notes. such conservative bank, hasn't changed
them into robots yet)
☟︎ Framedragger: without being snarky, i
think one guideline would be "announce more
than 0 days in advance" :)
pete_dushenski: i'm no hackathon expert (perhaps Framedragger or others can corroborate) but if i wanted eulora hackathon results i'd set up a meatspace booth, get red bull
to sponsor, and invite
teams.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Yeah, and a Petrus ended up owning
that David
too!
jurov: interesting , blockr got retarded for more
than day
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Remeber
that while David is poor servant of Eros, Petrus is great servant of Priapus!
☟︎ pete_dushenski: i always have
to laugh whenever some review writer says "objectively speaking... etc etc". dude, wtf are you on about ? did your parrot
tell you
to say
that ? jeez louise
this is science for
the people is it.
mircea_popescu: somewhere it will occur
to someone
that in a model where men have
the run of
the land, hunting for beasts
to eat and fuck, an amassing of domesticated cattle in
the shape of symbolic "goats" (which you can both eat and fuck, and in practice would be mixes of women, cows, whatever) will result in a very divergent approach : men hunt across
the land for resources and women hunt across
their backs for fleas.
mircea_popescu: in proper
terms, "we conclusively show
that once reality is replaced by propaganda, nominal increase in food prices as well as nominal decreases in poverty may be claimed
to have occured simultaneously. such is
the power of rejecting
the cold equations in favour of other views
that are more nurturing of
the mental processes
that are most important
to us."
pete_dushenski: in other news, "In
this article World Bank poverty estimates are used
to systematically
test
the relationship between changes in poverty and exogenous changes in real domestic food prices. We uncover indicative evidence
that increases in food prices are associated with reductions in poverty, not increases."
pete_dushenski: it wasn't so long ago
that 'computer' came with 'screen' for me, as per girls in
that
trilema piece.
pete_dushenski: thanks! putting
these kindergarten compsci classes and node set-up skills
to use. slowly making progress!
pete_dushenski got goosebumps when eulora 'came
to life' late last night as it was first game he's ever compiled from source on linux box or otherwise.
mircea_popescu: mine are in ~/src/client/foxybot ; i expect unless specified otherwise you just put
them in
there
jurov: reminded me
to
that old joke "Don't say anything. If you say, don't write. If you write, don't sign your name. If you sign, don't be surprised."
pete_dushenski: the only
thing in setting up eulora
that i haven't figured out yet was where
the foxybot code goes.
mircea_popescu: but i am well and
truly at a loss, who owns it ? no idea. maybe lobbes ? i somehow du nthink it was mike_c-
jurov: I consistently provide contact info. I
think mike_c has eulorum.org
mircea_popescu: it might be jurov ?
tis a community run project, feel free
to edit yourself.
pete_dushenski: btw who manages
the eulora wiki ? it's very well done and i might just suggest
that
the ubuntu instructions be updated slightly ('cs-forupload' instead of just 'cs')
trinque: a better
temporary fix is
to just have
the command write
the file if absent, going with
that
to keep permalinks
trinque: imma flip it back
to
the old way for now. I need
to finish some
things with
that site generator. one sec.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger in general
the problem is present, caching on a different level
than
the application creates complex problems.
Framedragger: re. latter, yes postgres doesn't instruct, apparently it's efficient on bulk writes
that way, as
the os can use its own cache
to optimize
the write order etc..
Framedragger: hm yes fair enough re. former. unknown what
to do when process restarts,
too, etc.
jurov: and some databases (afaik not postgres) instruct
the OS
to not cache data by using O_DIRECT flag
jurov: Framedragger: hard
to have sophisticated cache algorithm when apps are black boxes, it usually backfires (there's very bad worst-case)
Framedragger: random sorta-cs'y question: are
there any os-level cache implementations which make use of clock sweep (or something more sophisticated), cf. just simple LRU? (reading about caching strategy in postgres and possible duplication of data blocks at postgres cache level + os cache level).
BingoBoingo reading
the novel formerly called Disgrace which I shall call "Africa: Country For Old MEN, and by MEN we mean Petrus" can't help but
think poor dumpy Bev ought
to
take Dave Lurie as Bev's wife
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a111: Logged on 2017-01-01 05:18 mats: i wonder who will be
the first person here
to get a
tmsr related LEO visit
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mircea_popescu: we don't have
the prerequisites for useful miner discussion anyway.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-01#1595094 << wallet needs
to be fixed, which yes reduces
to not much reuse of
the current item, but you can't have
trb without a means
to pay.
the miner is iffier business, and really i can't conceive why it'd be a priority. let it be, do useful
things besides.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-01-01 12:59 BingoBoingo: In other webstats: "an article
that "has done more for Smalltalk advocacy
than any other article in memory." It was
the second-most popular article of
the year on
the Hewlett Packard Enterprise site
TechBeacon (recently passing 20,000 views)," << lol
mircea_popescu imagines davout wantering into warzone, going "pfff do
they ever stop with
the fireworks'
a111: Logged on 2017-01-01 05:18 mats: i wonder who will be
the first person here
to get a
tmsr related LEO visit
a111: Logged on 2017-01-01 00:23 mats: in my view,
the state doesn't have any business in regulating marriage at all
davout: menawhile,
the fireworks are resuming here
trinque: the whole neighborhood was covered in smoke last night like
the feds finally dropped bombs.
davout: asciilifeform: genesis is
the reference, keepring it around is a whole different story
a111: Logged on 2015-02-03 02:31 asciilifeform: but idea being, if dropped on alpha centauri with
the RI, ought
to be able
to start using bitcoin immediately
a111: Logged on 2017-01-01 10:33 davout: ben_vulpes: can you point me
to
the
thread where "keep
the miner in
trb" was discussed?
BingoBoingo: In other webstats: "an article
that "has done more for Smalltalk advocacy
than any other article in memory." It was
the second-most popular article of
the year on
the Hewlett Packard Enterprise site
TechBeacon (recently passing 20,000 views)," << lol
☟︎ davout: ben_vulpes: can you point me
to
the
thread where "keep
the miner in
trb" was discussed?
☟︎ davout: yes, happy new year
to my fellow
terrorists!
ben_vulpes: imma finish
this phf-inspired patch and fix
the miner
davout: in other news imma sink some
time in documenting
the merciless wallet code excision
that I
think is
the right(tm) approach for
TRB
ben_vulpes: davout: i
thought like 5 people lived
there