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ThickAsThieves: 37:10 is when it begins
ThickAsThieves: it's the only question no one on the panel attempted to answer
ThickAsThieves: the audience question basically boils down to "Who are the real criminals, and what are you doing to regulate yourselves"
ThickAsThieves: there i think that's it
ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaW2iPSPEs0&feature=player_detailpage#t=2218
ThickAsThieves: finding place in video
ThickAsThieves: the panel is Wieske Ebbe (Dutch Central Bank), Michael Maier (Fidor Bank), Niels Ploeger (Amsterdam Police), Joerg Platzer (Crypto Economics Consulting Group) & Casper Riekerk (Finnius Lawyers)
ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin Europe
ThickAsThieves: i'll find it
ThickAsThieves: there is
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if there's a vid
ThickAsThieves: it was the Regulation panel
ThickAsThieves: it was pretty awesome
ThickAsThieves: did i already tell you guys about the moment with the central banks being put on the spot?
ThickAsThieves: paid or not
ThickAsThieves: he said there's no situation where gavin would just do what they vote for
ThickAsThieves: i also brought up the Btc foundation
ThickAsThieves: or dies
ThickAsThieves: etc
ThickAsThieves: what if Gavin is wrong one day? or makes a big mistake?
ThickAsThieves: i both appreciate that some party is making the effort, and worry that it's just one party
ThickAsThieves: i didnt press the issue, but i disagreee
ThickAsThieves: he says Gavin knows what's best and he trusts him, basically
ThickAsThieves: on this he disagreed
ThickAsThieves: that accepting the devs as "core" is the most dangerous centralization in bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: basically i expressed that this name alone worries me,
ThickAsThieves: i also asked him about the "core devs"
ThickAsThieves: oh
ThickAsThieves: i believe centralization is the natural evolution of most things
ThickAsThieves: said it's not his pursuit, and that i was right to question it
ThickAsThieves: he was even reasonable when i asked him if he felt this whole decntralization of everything trend was a worthy pursuit
ThickAsThieves: he has that i'm so smart it hurts to be around you attitude
ThickAsThieves: i think Hearn was my favorite guy
ThickAsThieves: something like "i believe you are actually trying to do it, i just dont think you are capable"
ThickAsThieves: a fun moment was when Mike Hearn told the Mastercoin guy his project was shit
ThickAsThieves: after seeing Roger Ver in person I no longer think someone had a gun to his head in that Gox-is-fine video, he's just that uncomfortable acting all the time
ThickAsThieves: so sexy!
ThickAsThieves: tuur is a pretty good dude
ThickAsThieves: i should make one and use trilema quotes for all my citations
ThickAsThieves: :)
ThickAsThieves: how can i add my klout score?
ThickAsThieves: they need some sorta badges too
ThickAsThieves: self-nominated of course
ThickAsThieves: apparently being called usagi is a pretty damning insult
ThickAsThieves: yeah, he pm'd me very angry that day
ThickAsThieves: and usagi disappeared too
ThickAsThieves: he also disappeared when we called him usagi
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: isnt that smickles?
ThickAsThieves: and how do you separate accuracy from coincidence?
ThickAsThieves: nice article
ThickAsThieves: more like a cahsier's check i suppose
ThickAsThieves: sounds*
ThickAsThieves: sounda an awful lot like a check
ThickAsThieves: international remittance seems the next wave
ThickAsThieves: so do you have specific predictions for how btc will be used in your possible future?
ThickAsThieves: I see
ThickAsThieves: still trying to reach Ukyo...
ThickAsThieves: thx, Havelock made it easy
ThickAsThieves: true
ThickAsThieves: sure, but your degree of knowledge probably rivals most that are dedicated to the field
ThickAsThieves: now if i recall, your background is in business consulting, why so much finance knowledge?
ThickAsThieves: or sell miners, without taking any risk
ThickAsThieves: so basically the US only likes dealing in financial instruments that don't require provable backing
ThickAsThieves: "China has also suggested the creation of a substitution account to allow exchange of US dollars into SDRs.[Williamson 3] When substitution was proposed before, in 1978, the US appeared reluctant to allow such a mechanism to become operational.[Williamson 4] It is likely just as reluctant today."
ThickAsThieves: "The SDR comes to prominence when the US dollar is weak or otherwise unsuitable to be a foreign exchange reserve asset. This usually manifests itself as an allocation of SDRs to IMF member countries. Distrust of the US dollar is not the only stated reason allocations have been made, however." says wiki
ThickAsThieves: but cant
ThickAsThieves: like the ones germany wants to visit
ThickAsThieves: and i want more arguments as to why bitcoins ultimate use isnt necessarily as a currency to buy coffee
ThickAsThieves: but i recall you mentioning how bitcoin could be good for like purposes
ThickAsThieves: basically i had no memory of the SDR topic when we last spoke about it, just knew it was something to do with governments
ThickAsThieves: obv my understanding is wrong :)
ThickAsThieves: i wanted to read up on it better
ThickAsThieves: thats the thing
ThickAsThieves: i think
ThickAsThieves: started with an S
ThickAsThieves: mp what was the name of those notes that govs use to deal in large amounts of money?
ThickAsThieves: indeed.
ThickAsThieves: "Evolution did not end with us growing opposable thumbs. You do know that, right? There's another 90 percent of our brains that we have to illuminate."
ThickAsThieves: lol it's his AM dividend
ThickAsThieves: sorry
ThickAsThieves: you can still hear the squishy noises!
ThickAsThieves: with the lens cap on
ThickAsThieves: kako, we dont know they exist imo
ThickAsThieves: any other way than what?
ThickAsThieves: "Even if the FBI is not able to transfer the money, merely having possession of the wallet file itself is enough to prevent the coins being spent. The Bureau is in a position equivalent to having seized a safe belonging to a suspect with no idea of the combination – and no hope of forcing it open any other way."
ThickAsThieves: is that an antenna coming out of his head?
ThickAsThieves: what do they pay court artists these days? peanuts?
ThickAsThieves: treehugger coins
ThickAsThieves: is this what the romanian btc conference will be like?
ThickAsThieves: http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/pictures-rothschild-family/
ThickAsThieves: the next Cyprus btc bubble?
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/7/4812750/banks-stuff-atms-with-cash-as-debt-ceiling-deadline-looms
ThickAsThieves: or such
ThickAsThieves: what about an all-digital kb? like with an lcd display
ThickAsThieves: or something like how noise cancellation works
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: something that inserts random waves or such
ThickAsThieves: so can kb be made with a "jammer"
ThickAsThieves: battery