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mp_en_viaje: digg ~still~ pretends to relevancy, to this very day. their claim just as good at any point throughout as reddit's, actually. just... no note from hitler, meaning pravda dun ever mention digg with the pomp & implication it mentions reddit
asciilifeform: this one not to-shit tho ? in what sense is wp even a saleable product ?
mp_en_viaje: no, digg kept getting spun and respun, slashdot got bought by some spammer outfit that promptly went to shit.
asciilifeform: aa ha 'the parent company of Wordpress.com, the popular online publishing system' apparently
asciilifeform: i guess possible, '"I s-s-said that they w-w-weren't hogs. They were s-sows", Slim managed to choke out, so overcome with fear that a thin stream of hot liquid diarreah began to dribble...'
asciilifeform: i take it portrait is modern , and not '91 ?
mp_en_viaje: supposedly someone slipped her a mickey ~and sodomized her~ during madonna's 1991 tour.
mp_en_viaje: s claim to fame.
mp_en_viaje: "any blowjob $2" "why would i want to stick my cock in this ?" "$2!!!"
mp_en_viaje: nah, different ends. these 200k are ~equivalent of rounding up 100k girlies in india / rwanda refugee camp etc.
asciilifeform: as portrayed in mp_en_viaje's 'unflattering truth'
asciilifeform: if i understand correctly the ad-chumpatron , these 200 will be paid in 'coupon good to buy ads yourself' or other 'iou'
mp_en_viaje: eh, what's pron traffic anymore, a buck per thousand clicks ? if half those pageviews are real there you go, 200k/month or so.
mp_en_viaje: nfi that i would. but potentially, as i said, to ban anyone who didn't post tits.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 18:46:25 mp_en_viaje: and automattic paid in kelly bundy money. hey dorks... you could've hit me up, the half bitcoin or w/e you actually got for the "valuable online property" is not so hard to match for the actual billionaires in this world.
mp_en_viaje: same dumb cunts, except esl rather than rsl.
mp_en_viaje: basically this whole thing is just 2010 scaled up.
mp_en_viaje: im like tear-eyed over here.
mp_en_viaje: anyways... that tumblr thing... keks of all time.
BingoBoingo: Indeed. They also speak more clearly and more kitchen competent.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, not to mention venezuelan chicks fuckable in the first place.
mp_en_viaje: to continue the keks : "PC Magazine reported that in December, Tumblr had an estimated 520 million visits, which dropped to 436 million in January and then 369 million in February." ; https://i.ibb.co/VL0Vmps/lulztumblr.png
BingoBoingo: Forbes is Derping English about how "Argentina won't become Venezuela" even though Argentina is entering this crisis with even less to offer than Venezuela ever had (at least after burning mineral oils for energy became a thing).
BingoBoingo: Seriously. I suspect the fact you might have actually bought it if they solicited bids is why the details are undisclosed
mp_en_viaje: fancy that, could've put it right back on the street, ban anyone who ~never~ published any cunt instead.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 04:22:13 mp_en_viaje: ant to continue : https://internet.com/ ; much like IAC, QuinnStreet is a "S&P 600 Component", you know, with supposed revenue out of those shit "properties" and assorted other self-imagined bullshit. believe.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-05-18 02:05:52 mp_en_viaje: because it takes a certain dose of insanity to think the equation you solved was the equation that was being presented. you recall that episone in married with children when christina applegate was saving cereal box K's to buy car ?
mp_en_viaje: and automattic paid in kelly bundy money. hey dorks... you could've hit me up, the half bitcoin or w/e you actually got for the "valuable online property" is not so hard to match for the actual billionaires in this world.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/08/verizon-unloads-tumblr-on-automattic-after-value-collapses-under-porn-ban/ << Qntra -- Verizon Unloads Tumblr On Automattic After Value Collapses Under Porn Ban
diana_alt: hello from Vilnius, /me slowly catches up with the logs
asciilifeform: when unravelled -- plox to post, i will read. (and if find that actually fits into asciilifeform's head -- sign.)
asciilifeform: i vaguely suspected that phf's proggy exists as currently-unreproducible (i.e. not fully represented by the source) 'save-lisp-and-die' ball
phf: asciilifeform: well i gave you timeframe, it's easy for me to provide a few hints right now, significantly harder to unwrap a ball of yarn
asciilifeform: i genesised 5000ln+ of fucking asm!! last month. and scarcely expect that anyone will read, aside maybe from mp_en_viaje's gurlz as a punishment detail. but it has to be done.
asciilifeform: in general folx oughta overcome this phobia. took me -- yrs. but gotta be done. piece of shit that was genesis'd -- can be fixed. whereas if not genesis'd, how can fix ?
asciilifeform: phf: my logbot genesis is some of the ugliest piece of shit yet put through 'v' . so dun be afraid to publish similar.
asciilifeform: phf: at the risk of 'broken record', i gotta say that all of this would be 9000x moar helpful if existed as genesis , rather than asciilifeform to sit and derive from old logs and phf's summary, how was done.
asciilifeform: right, assumed that phf meant 'znc' in abstract, i.e. any proggy that logs straight to txt , rather than concretely znc
phf: this is basically the same as your special endpoint for giving out the 500 log messages
phf: also znc is incidental, i have a trivial flask (or maybe "bottle") server that parses znc logs and gives the result out in the log-format
phf: just one, this provided enough redundancy, but also allowed for a trivial merge algorithm. i suspect with multiple znc you'll have to work harder to discover consensus
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:14:01 asciilifeform: this horror aint even rare exception, but as i understand has happened to each logger to date when 1) bot fell 2) folx continued to speak 3) bot stood up . i'd like to devise a deterministic algo for wat-do in such cases, they will repeat for so long as we inhabit fleanode
phf: accommodate drift). the messages are then merged into the log (i.e. i find the overlap of known messages, and then add the missing messages). since both znc and a111 tend to be fairly stable, the combination of the two provided adequate coverage
phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-14#1928700 << in general this hasn't happened to a111 (though i don't have full netsplit coverage, since that requires a bot per all the possible servers we are connected to), i've described the solution in logs, though i can't find it now. when a111 falls over, on reconnect it asks the znc machine to give it all the messages since the timestamp of last known message (+3 hours to
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's logger intended moar as ice breaker ship, to make the subj navigable, than final solution. and 'final' -- as already detailed by mp_en_viaje -- would be a constellation of heterogeneous items that know how to speak a common sync, operated by diff people.
asciilifeform actually found himself sitting to think, for hour+, before picking up the logger grenade
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:45:17 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, in principle, yes. historically i kept discouraging you personally from making logger because to my (admittedly -- naive) mind it was task perfectly suited to ambitious youth
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-14#1928760 << i still think, tbh, that it would be ideal for one such. but so far errybody broke teeth.
asciilifeform: this ties up hands .
asciilifeform: i dun so much suffer from anxieties, but would like folx to know that currently asciilifeform built not proper wall, but the kind portrayed in mp_en_viaje's old ro piece where 'builder stands and holds up'
mp_en_viaje: and dun let the (understandable) anxiety of it eat your brain. we shall figure it out, on the basis of meeting it irl.
asciilifeform: i'ma fix the uni-idjicy found by lobbes ( and apparently described in log by phf 2+ y ago ) , and add the 'did i join or am i pissing into wind' detector discussed 2d ago, to bot
mp_en_viaje: well, so far the algo is, let it die 2-3 times and we see then.
mp_en_viaje: can sometimes alter minds, and more rarely the future. but the past...
asciilifeform: unlike the gurlz, i dun need particularly anyone to 'feel for', but would like something resembling a sustainable algo.
mp_en_viaje: da fuck can we do. contrary to popular fiction, i dun have any reality-altering regalia.
asciilifeform: what i also have, is long (and much backed up) queue of tmsr work that aint 'hand feed logger'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: no, i get. but i dun have a squad of people who will immediately report ' asciilifeform broke leg, is in ditch ' . have 1, who is trained to report -- if doesn't simultaneously break leg/neck with asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: presently i suspect that even three dedicated folx, working in shifts, could not reliably 'meat gossipd' 100%
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:42:26 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, yes, but hard to like-phf when actually communicating things, on one hand. and on the other, hopefully multiple of these.
mp_en_viaje: you didn't miss the http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-14#1928746 part, did you ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:41:36 asciilifeform: i'd like to avoid the situation where ' asciilifeform fixed on best-effort basis, and 1 time breaks leg' and then like phf.
asciilifeform: cuz the alternative is eventually http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-14#1928742 . sooner or later.
asciilifeform: i admit, i half-expected mp_en_viaje to pick up his skepter and declare 'this here is only working logger atm, and the breaking turd is a uniturd from bot, let errybody else lose the 6lines'
mp_en_viaje: i expect large portions of lobbesbot actually salvageable ; spyked was making a lisp one too iirc.
asciilifeform: ideally by then can auto-sync from e.g. diana's bot in fortran
mp_en_viaje: well, maybe not the very-next
asciilifeform: i'ma fix the uniturdism in coming days. and diddle the log as described by mp_en_viaje . but when next net split, or bot eventually falls (no one afaik has yet written/hosted bot that did not fall at least erry 6wks ) we will have to revisit the wat-do
mp_en_viaje: but my reasoning is (and was, trhoughout), "well, let's see then"
mp_en_viaje: i suspect this is so.
asciilifeform: the whole q reduces to gossipd, as mp_en_viaje pointed out already. atm we're attempting to hand-crank gossipd.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 11:27:26 asciilifeform: diana_coman: atm i'm somewhat curious whether the logotron is even reproducible
asciilifeform: arguably -- unstable in the http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927225 sense .
mp_en_viaje: anyway, your idea is "what happens if logger netsplit" ? could we revisit this after 2-3 actual resplits ?
asciilifeform: it aint unstable in the 'falls down like win95' sense tho.
mp_en_viaje: your fleet of flasks though, that's unstable, and will likely blow up in future imo, but that's another time.
mp_en_viaje: i am hoping the cp1252 bs is the last of the nonsense.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm not married to a particular set of junkyard wrecks out of what people to make loggers. but the solution has to be reasonably automatic, or e.g. asciilifeform for the rest of his days will be doing nuffin but munging db, and it ~still~ won't be satisfactorily correct
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, in principle, yes. historically i kept discouraging you personally from making logger because to my (admittedly -- naive) mind it was task perfectly suited to ambitious youth
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/what-is-a-blog-complete-spec-inside/ << Trilema -- What is a blog ? Complete spec inside!
mp_en_viaje: as step towards ye gossipd of lore.
mp_en_viaje: this is kinda-sorta where my "add logger to mp-wp pages" thing goes towards. conceivably one could have a reconcillation process as part of one's blog
asciilifeform: but as it is, we have 'memory leak' for operator time -- enemy can trivially occupy 100% of l1 hands for arbitrary time w/ the work of spoon-feeding logs
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, then we be sad. what can we do ? http://trilema.com/2015/a-lunatic-with-a-bloodied-axe-could-be-ringing-at-your-door/ !!!
asciilifeform: naturally, when say 'logger' mean 'human', rather than the space heater
mp_en_viaje: and not ~merely~ multiple as nude existence. nude as reflective process, people keeping track of them.
asciilifeform: we dun have'em yet tho. and if tonight fleanode 'storm' and 9,000,000 splits, then wat.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, yes, but hard to like-phf when actually communicating things, on one hand. and on the other, hopefully multiple of these.
asciilifeform: which is why i put in raw-export, db dump (0 hrs / daily newyork time) etc
mp_en_viaje: which is why "logging monopoly" was listed with the "sadness" in the possible outcomes list.
asciilifeform: i'd like to avoid the situation where ' asciilifeform fixed on best-effort basis, and 1 time breaks leg' and then like phf.
mp_en_viaje: in my mind, the process works through -- everyone, mp included, has to make ~a judgement~, their own judgement, at any given point, re the logs.
mp_en_viaje: nor do i think that's what's desired.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm not about to make argument 'eh i have drinking to do , rather than sync logs'. but if it takes fleanode 100msec to make a split, and asciilifeform -- 5min to fix it, this is not tenable to maintain promise of 'ultimate log'
mp_en_viaje: the costs to defend / benefits to attack mount exponentially, it is not a stable design.
mp_en_viaje: i do not believe such a thing as ~a~ cannonical copy may exist.
mp_en_viaje: now -- i did not do this because i was bored or lacking for activity. i did it because imo it's very constructive.
mp_en_viaje: this is what precipitated the aug 2 darkness.
mp_en_viaje: and in month 4 or so of this traveling, where in other words mp was relying on other people to establish for him what is log, mp threw up because could not obtain a copy he could trust to scream at mod6 on good basis rather than on weak basis.
mp_en_viaje: for long time mp was always-on, ran private multiple redundant loggers, etc. then mp went traveling, explicitly.