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rithm: that i generated in stock ubuntu
dignork: rithm, i just checked that i have this password in list of human generated passwords (i did)
fluffypony: I try to make you happy
rithm: i'm taking my time
rithm: i tested my shit
fluffypony: I look forward to robwhiz22 joining us tomorrow
robwhiz22: I'll be on tomorrow.
benkay: oh i got that loud and clear
mircea_popescu: well no, what i mean is "that's complicated" in the sense of i'm not about to spill it.
benkay: complicated i can handle
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I'll try to reach you tomorrow. What is the best time to talk in here?
benkay: hey mircea_popescu i think i'm misreading your mpex tech stuff article - web servers have a copy of the db to fulfill stat requests?
fluffypony: reading some of the stuff I contributed is painful
bounce: or maybe it did and I just don't remember.
bounce: that didn't quite reach faraway europe, I don't think, no.
fluffypony: bounce: or wait, I'm talking about the old South African zine called forbidden knowledge, not sure if you were just saying that in general
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I will have to go soon.
mircea_popescu: i haven't since the days i was looking through files to spot stoned.b
asciilifeform: i'm one of the lucky (unlucky?) folks who uses x86 asm at day job.
mircea_popescu: there i've asm'd.
dignork: bounce, there was a debug.exe just to write .COM, i think it was still supplied in winXP
bounce: smallest TSR I did was... 32 bytes total memory cost. 16 bytes code, 16 bytes allocated memory given to DOS before exiting.
fluffypony: dignork: before that list I used a Peter Norton programming guide that had an interrupt table
robwhiz22: I used the address from the cryptome announcement, which you responded to once suggesting I talk to you here.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, you said earlier you did not see my two emails to you. I forwarded both to you now - did you get them?
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I remember trading copies on stiffy disk because the Internet wasn't as common, and then eventually in like 1998/1999 downloading my first "current" release
dignork: ew, I remember writing TSR programs in TP+asm, it was a horrible junk
asciilifeform: fluffypony: me. i still consult 'swag' for algos, once in a blue moon.
mircea_popescu: i remember dlh, the useful game info collection.
robwhiz22: sorry, I received a phone call and was disconnected without noticing.
fluffypony: jurov: I will say this much, Turbo Pascal forced me to learn asm because some functions were orders of magnitude faster when offloaded to inline asm
daybyter: fluffypony: I started a rewrite of that game in javascript to use it for coin gaming.
jurov: anyway. what i want to say, despite it was quite decent environment, it naturally led everyone to use turbopascal&co.
fluffypony: and nobody understood wtf I was talking about
fluffypony: I was like
fluffypony: I remember when I got my Nokia 6110 and it had Snake on it
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I learned something today I never knew...mind blown.
mircea_popescu: i kept editing the code to do weird shit. was loads of fun
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I remember
fluffypony: I vastly preferred PowerBasic to Turbo PAscal
[\]: I still remember seeing a=a+1 for the first time
mircea_popescu: i actually liked qbasic. dunno why all the hate.
jurov: i progressed to pascal, too
fluffypony: jurov: you think that's bad, I started on GWBASIC and then progressed to Pascal
jurov: all that rubbish. why i had to do my first programming steps in qbasic?
mircea_popescu: "This brings me to the core of what I dislike about Wolfram's book. It is going to set the field back by years. On the one hand, scientists in other fields are going to think we're all crackpots like him. On the other hand, we're going to be deluged, again, with people who fall for this kind of nonsense. I expect to have to waste a lot of time in the next few years de-programming students who'll have read A New Kind of
asciilifeform: i can't wait for this fellow's Amazing RNG Improvement ideas.
mircea_popescu: wait i wrote that ?!
jurov: i did not read further
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> no one can say i wasn't patient. << and that's an understatement
robwhiz22: BingoBoingo, I didn't critique it. I don't know anything about any RNG project. I was just answering mircea_popescu's question, in which he quoted "and conversely objects which pass randomness tests must have high algorithmic complexity" and hten said "not familiar with the 'complex objects' in question.".
asciilifeform: i'd also like to add, for the edification of future spammers, that blatant sockmuppetry (switching handles every week) does not add credibility.
asciilifeform: no one can say i wasn't patient.
asciilifeform: ok, for everyone who didn't catch it the first time i posted it,
robwhiz22: And more to the point I don't really know the application. It's, quote-unquote "out of scope"
robwhiz22: but I didn't submit as I didn't want to become your consultant on here for free. :)
robwhiz22: I wrote "mircea_popescu, for what you're discussing now you should look at kolmogorov complexity."
mircea_popescu: the guy does declare he's trained as a phys, so i guess rank cluelessness about math may be excused
robwhiz22: fluffypony, more importantly, it's not like I did the entire project on spec (Google 'on spec' or 'spec work').
robwhiz22: fluffypony, I wouldn't need permission.
mircea_popescu: i want this entered into the record of proof for the importance of beating schoolchildren.
mircea_popescu: "My teacher, more patient than I would be with adolescent arrogance, gently informed me that it was a standard technique, in any book on linear algebra, called "reduction to Jordan normal form", after the man who discovered it in the 1800s. "
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I've just clicked 'forward all' and reforwarded you my proposal and follow-up email. Please check the mail and I would very much appreciate a response. I feel I've given adequate time for your consideration.
asciilifeform: to my great shame, i (well, my research group, at my request) bought his software once.
robwhiz22: fluffypony, I doubt I am on ignore. He began to answer me but had to go. The other day, I had to leave earlier.
fluffypony: robwhiz22: I think you're on /ignore, he was talking to bounce
mircea_popescu: i do't think american expressions are allowed to contain words such as elusive
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, the whole proposal - I can email again if you have trouble fining the previous emails. There 2 I think, of which you answered the second one inviting me here, and one follow-up one.
asciilifeform: i used to think that 'elusive joe' is an american expression
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, did you 1) find my proposal among your emails now? 2) do you have an answer? I submitted it with the request that you review and answer within three business days, which I thought was reasonable.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I am not available for chatting much longer tonight.
bounce: anyhow, I'll gladly concede this since my interest is in a different point.
mircea_popescu: bounce i meant aristocrats and courtiers are two mostly distinct things.
bounce: not true. any high concentration of power without proper management tends to bring lots of little kingdoms, warring each other. I'm told the pettiest squabbles can be found in academia.
mircea_popescu: i had bought the same arguments, omg sa is terrible.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'm talking specifically about South Africa - our murder rate is mentioned in the article, ~30 per 100k vs Honduras at ~90 per 100k
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah, I was quite surprised, the ex-pats have beaten the "murder rate in South Africa is the highest in the world" speech into everyone's heads we're starting to believe it ourselves
mircea_popescu: i'd never have guessed.
mircea_popescu: bounce no cause i was addicted muchly afore.
TomServo: Sorry, I should've also put fix in quotes.
TomServo: robwhiz22: You're the "I can fix the Cardano" guy right?
robwhiz22: You kind of disappeared the other day. I'm hoping you had a chance to read what I'd written you earlier. If so could you tell me a decision please?
fluffypony: I think testnet is an under-utilised feature
fluffypony: yeah I use the "stove is hot" analogy often
chetty: fluffypony, that is I think, the definition of learning
fluffypony: I was talking in generalisations
fluffypony: oh I agree with that
mircea_popescu: whoa this is going to be a good argument, i disagree with everyone.
mircea_popescu: but i am outright denying her the right to air dumbassery under the guise that "she's entitled to an opinion"
goonsamchi: i believe in individual liberty and the right for people to be wrong
goonsamchi: no, i think people should be allowed to control their own lives
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/eyl9jeF.jpg
mircea_popescu: poor phantomcircuit still imagines his brain works, i wager.
mircea_popescu: oh really ? and i thought it simply valued pretense and pretending over competence or obeying your betters.
benkay: i'd like to meet the person who's willing to test that 'likely' in the states, or finance the establishment of caselaw.
fluffypony: I don't see any <em> tags?
mjr_: maybe i didn't read that far down
mjr_: and I think I will start blogging more
mjr_: which was my point...zeroblock told me on twitter "amateur hour is over"...i was like so canada, australia, mexico, etc are still in amateur hour...
mjr_: i have to try and get people to shut the fuck up and open their eyes and see how the world works