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mircea_popescu: before smartphones, it was not uncommon to stop two people in the street whose clocks were 30 minutes apart.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: imo cooling was the biggest problem for the damned blades.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> nature's criterion of 'works' and mine << nature's cheaper. you might not get a voice.
mircea_popescu: trinque re the dos point of sale, best breakfast p[lace here had one, made like 1985 or some shit
mircea_popescu: i am merely pointing out that the perl-bashing has some serious problems in front of it.
mircea_popescu: trinque nah, it's not energetically efficient. try and power the jet off the bird's diet.
mircea_popescu: could be punishment for the usg twerps. "you now have to program on this"
mircea_popescu: trinque consider the ridiculous happenstance that all foeti have a god damned lizard tail two weeks in.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wasn't going nearly as far as any of that.
mircea_popescu: trinque the main problem here is that for a large number of solid considerations, lisp would actually be a much better choice. moreover, the space alf referred to is indeed vast, but the processes narrow. in many spots the whole tree converges to a very very narrow bottleneck.
mircea_popescu: trinque except the product of reproduction is perhaps the most expensive thing there is
mircea_popescu: (because cunts obviously aren't free to choose what they use, so the need for perl must be way deeper than that)
mircea_popescu: but even if there isn't a reason for this : it's so deeply baked into the structure of the world, you'll never be free of it.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel this is a very minor point. the chief point, still standing, is that cunts still run on perl. there must be a reason for this.
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, i'm just being unreasonably heterodox over here.
mircea_popescu: perl people think they're using "structured data" too.
mircea_popescu: if you think about it, you said so yourself. "if you're /ever/ using them, you're doing it wrong."
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, would be the lisp/perl difference imo. lisp does not have strings, perl does not have sexprs. in spite of pretending on each side)
mircea_popescu: so you dispute that there's ready biologic equivalents of a regexp match ?
mircea_popescu: (and if it were so well specified, we'd prolly know a lot more of it than we do)
mircea_popescu: take the simple fact that erycridine lactate induces abortion in any trimester, and without exception. if this isn't a regex gone wrong, what is ?
mircea_popescu: which means that as long as you live, you will not live in a clean world.
mircea_popescu: at issue is that we understand enough to know it runs on perl.
mircea_popescu: and mind you, at issue is not whether we do or don't understand how reproduction works.
mircea_popescu: generally when an analogy need not enter into a conversation, it's a sign the conversation's broken.
mircea_popescu: that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, idea is that some people who can't even make dragonfly are in a weak position to teach grandmother to suck eggs, as it were.
mircea_popescu: many more similarities (like a pointed lack of sexprs), but let's keep it simple
mircea_popescu: and it's perl for exactly the specified reason, " the normal failure mode is to terminate with no idea how far into the process you got or how much of an incomplete task was actually performed"
mircea_popescu: iirc they proved some of them actually abord through some oxygenation pathway
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel trisomies are usually aborted. spina bifida usually not. etc.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel no, no, we're talking about the reproductive system itself.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is, you can measure a lot about a pregnancy.,
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard from what i see (and from what i know of these systems) there's periodically going to be a beheading.
mircea_popescu: think about it : foetuses are sometimes aborted. on the basis of reasons.