asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is also, for the impatient, a mostly-passable film

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: informants << ever read 'mother night' (k. vonnegut) ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: notice date on article. the only interesting aspect, arguably, is how the whole thing vanished neatly into 'the memory hole' without a trace.

asciilifeform: but massive piles of possibly-gold kept it going long past expiration date.

asciilifeform: inception of the notion - nothing to do with anything but the usual avarice

asciilifeform: the gilded [place]

asciilifeform: right

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: (how did conquistadors get the idea of massive inca gold? easy - shown outlandish heaps of 'gold' junk. which was in fact plated.)

asciilifeform: arguably this got them killed.

asciilifeform: incas, in particular, were rather handy with electroless plating.

asciilifeform: now, if you find an item that could only have been plated electrically - then.

asciilifeform: last i recall, they assume 'electroless' plating and rest.

asciilifeform: electroplated artifacts << since found ?

asciilifeform: did original artifact contain a cock-sized orifice ?

asciilifeform: the 'tingle' hypothesis suggests another likely use.

asciilifeform: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Baghdad_battery << the mega-skeptics chime in

asciilifeform: http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/parthian_battery.php

asciilifeform: !s urinetown

asciilifeform: ordinary chemical pile, though, based on certain finds

asciilifeform: iirc, archaeologists were still holding pissing matches over it.

asciilifeform: damn.

asciilifeform: !s egyptian battery

asciilifeform: i thought everyone knew this (at least, the hypothesis)

asciilifeform: even if everyone suddenly desires to buy one, i half expect to be killed somewhere on the road between 1 and 2.

asciilifeform: i'm thick in (1) but 2, 3 are quasi-mythical dream.

asciilifeform: well yes.

asciilifeform: can't speak for others, but the thing i personally lack is - elementarily - time.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo is quite mistaken in his picture of the missing parts.

asciilifeform: so, the bitcoind cleanup thing is conceivably useful, because end result could be the book i asked for, and a year or so from now i (or someone else) can read it, and build rational design.

asciilifeform: because the larger the pile, the more otherwise-reasonable folks say 'you cannot build a rationally built structure as tall as this pile, as glorious, without using old chairs and dead squirrels'

asciilifeform: answer: the kind that -removes- chairs from the babel pile.

asciilifeform: now, observation: what kind of existing-computing-infrastructure project -is- worth participating in? (voluntarily, rather than because of starvation)

asciilifeform: idea is, roughly, 1) to avoid the kinds of participation that can be avoided; and, 2) try to expand the set in (1).

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2014#774690 ☝︎

asciilifeform: !s nonparticipation

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see, the thing about braindamage is that there is always one answer that costs nothing:

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dafuq's the point

asciilifeform: undata: glad you enjoyed. i think there may even be one or two people in #b-a who ended up here on account of it.

asciilifeform: see, e.g, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=516 , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=388 , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=401 , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=849

asciilifeform: also because there are armies of imbeciles (and their herders) who 'must stay relevant!' at whatever cost.

asciilifeform: because plagiarism and pious fraud works better with serial numbers filed off.

asciilifeform: year zero, motherfuckers.

asciilifeform: burn it all.

asciilifeform: see the 'standards' section. then - take a piss on it.

asciilifeform: required reading: http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utah2000/utah2000.html

asciilifeform: the trick is to realize how many of the 'mandatory' features are actually anything but.

asciilifeform: chuck moore did this with forth.

asciilifeform: sure.

asciilifeform: in practice, a handful of people can be involved, but result must be a 1-head item.

asciilifeform: i stand by this.

asciilifeform: if >1 head - shitpile.

asciilifeform: 'figuring out rocket engines is hard work. let's pile more bricks on this here tower of babel. so what if it's already prolapsed in ten thousand places. more bricks, more chairs, old cars, corpses of slaves. big enough river of meat - we shall go to victory. come join my river of meat.' -- summary of this and 100+ similarly idiotic answers to my articles.

asciilifeform: snore.

asciilifeform: possibly author assumed that i read whatever snakepit he linked to it in.

asciilifeform: (no one bothered to tell me about the piece, i ran into it by sheer accident.)

asciilifeform: if he's in here, let him speak up!

asciilifeform: author says he wrote it for me to trololol over but i'm merely bored.

asciilifeform: http://arrdem.com/2014/11/28/the_future_of_the_lispm << unrelated mega-lol

asciilifeform: or it's empty words.

asciilifeform: folks who write spec often forget that a spec is a cheque that someone's pair of hands needs to cash

asciilifeform: not one pixel's worth

asciilifeform: that is, with a hard guarantee of no deviation whatsoever between versions and platforms

asciilifeform: afaik there is still no www browser that correctly implements the whole pile of shit as an invariant

asciilifeform: reminds me of something i wrote once: a kind of simple 'lisp machine' in 'adobe flash' bytecode. never published, because realized that the whole idea is braindamaged and will encourage further braindamage if anyone were to use it

asciilifeform: an 'html5'-ism ?

asciilifeform: do i even want to know.

asciilifeform: canvas tag?

asciilifeform: undata: the whole concept of 'web browser' is ultimately braindamaged. see one of my articles - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=309

asciilifeform: you read it here phirst (tm)

asciilifeform: considerably easier to collect than 'bitlicense'

asciilifeform: no one may take a shit without paying. per gram.

asciilifeform: i propose now a new and improved tax for usg: the -shitlicense-.

asciilifeform: directory of what, and by whom ?

asciilifeform: phone book ?

asciilifeform: !?

asciilifeform: if interesting, get the fuck out of kolkhoz ('twitter', arsebook, etc.) and on real www

asciilifeform: for thermocouples - you want more of a potbelly stove, with long chimney

asciilifeform: tower of fire << for smoke signals - sure

asciilifeform: this is more of a shortwavecoin apocalypse gizmo.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you'd make more from selling the fuel.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: terrible waste

asciilifeform: for serious thermocouple folks: http://www.neazoi.com/technology/thermocouple.htm

asciilifeform: greer's article is not entirely wrong that ancient egyptian tinsmith could have built it, if he knew how and had a reason.

asciilifeform: these were pre-peltierjunction devices. dissimilar metals / seebeck's effect.

asciilifeform: http://islandbreath.blogspot.com/2011/05/tyranny-of-temporary.html << crackpot article with better photo of above

asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/GkSO4PZ << for BingoBoingo, other jungle men

asciilifeform: somebody (does anyone give a shit?) could crawl the thing and deduplicate.

asciilifeform: try it.

asciilifeform: not readable on account of meat puppets.

asciilifeform: 'river of meat' campaign ?

asciilifeform: a large number appear to be identical.

asciilifeform: 'how the world works!'

asciilifeform: (first comment)

asciilifeform: ^ lol!

asciilifeform: 'Thank you folks for your work and I do apologize for the likely barrage of angry and childish emails I suspect you may already be receiving. The concept has attracted a couple of groups who can't accept playing by anyone's rules but their own.'

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dream will be for next fella.

asciilifeform: ^ another rocket ad

asciilifeform: http://youtu.be/kvm5c1dMmFo?t=4m42s

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-02-2014#488934 ☝︎