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kuzetsa: yeah, having a decent personality & being able to market one's self is good
DreadKnight: cazalla, considered doing something like that with a chick I know that looks like the Dark Queen from Battletoads; got equipment and such
DreadKnight: it's a bit more, yeah
DreadKnight: anyway, 1600$+ a month just because; for writing; that's like 3 romanian full time jobs; I got 0 on there so far
kuzetsa: fine fine, yeah... it has happened, and more than just pirates have done the "bury something to keep it safe" tactic, but just because it's common enough that it's "not unheard of" doesn't make it "actually a common practice"
asciilifeform: kuzetsa: still not unheard of, in russia: a construction crew, tearing up a 19th c. apartment building, finding cigar boxes with thick stacks of pre-revolution rubles, silver coins, etc.
kuzetsa: burried treasure is a myth
benkay: is that a one-time-thing or more like the 0.5% of "assets under mgmt"
chetty: oh and a wealth tax ..5% of whatever you have over some amount
chetty: well not sure what the local income tax is, dont have a local job yet but 35% to take any money out of country
asciilifeform: thestringpuller, benkay, chetty: usa would send a tax bill to a Chukcha if he weren't behind russian rockets. law is a 'god that died.'
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Danger%20Zone | When you are in a dangerous situation i.e. the danger zone. ... After ripping the big one, Timmy had one thing to say: "Danger Zone!" (Everyone immediatly left ...
benkay: chetty: d'you pay taxes? still have a US passport?
thestringpuller: thanks chetty thanks a lot :P
thestringpuller: it's funny how a decade ago is 2004
chetty: benkay, havent been back in a decade
chetty: good job asciilifeform, I am not so sure the gasenwagen will be a joke much longer
asciilifeform: chetty: you'll never really know until you try << well, for whatever it's worth, i did manage to actually get in the airplane (instead of a waiting gasenwagen) in april. to, i admit, a little bit of surprise. but who knows about next time.
benkay: chetty you were a usian once, non?
chetty: <asciilifeform> for most americans, walking to mexico would involve having to work for a living - a punishment far harsher than anything they do in jails here// walking over the border to Mexico is actually pretty easy
gribble: duffer1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 51 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <Duffer1> speaking of.. i haven't heard any ripple news in a while..
mircea_popescu: that thing's massive, about the size of a bodybuilder.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a lot you don't know :
mircea_popescu: and more generally, if anyone's currently wasting a lot of time derping online and would like to make a job of it... say so. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: that should keep you busy for a day or two.
mircea_popescu: don't spam, make sense, bring in the various good points we know about the world doesn't, bitcoin, b-a, bitbet, mpex, etc.
mircea_popescu: okay, what i want you to do is create a bunch of handles in various forums (i'll tell you which) and participate in the discussion.
danielpbarron: I have a seasonal warehouse job
mircea_popescu: hey danielpbarron, what do you do for a living ?
mircea_popescu: it's a case of 0.5 / 0.25 appearing larger than 1/1
mircea_popescu: vilage people are actualy a lot dumber than city people. they just have much fewer avenues to display their inanity.
mircea_popescu: maybe the murderer had a point.
mircea_popescu: this is a major reason to not punish murder, imo.
mircea_popescu: i guess a lot of foreign military officers wondered why they've not simply shot hitler at any point in the 30s, just walk up to him and boom.
mircea_popescu: among which two pelicans. which had figured where the door was, and what a door is. and were angling together to perhaps scare a dumbass tourist and manage to get out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my only lingering regret from my days in costa rica is that one day i've visited a bird reserve. a large geodome sorta thing with a lot of birds in it.
asciilifeform: if he were a russian 'zek', he'd have a red stripe in his id papers.
asciilifeform: i recently went to a zoo, where they had cheetahs. one cheetah was a little different from the others. every time i see him, he's clearly preoccupied with looking for a hole in the fence.
mircea_popescu: that's... 500 a year
mircea_popescu: decimation most of humanity lives on less than ten bux a week.
asciilifeform: if they come from my being a stonemason in mexico city, as far as i can tell i'm then already in a jail
mircea_popescu: inconvenience yourself and you'll be free, but otherwise, you're predictable, and in being predictable you'll be a tool.
mircea_popescu: the point is to live like a feral dog AND leave the country.
asciilifeform: tourist noticed a puff of smoke coming from a tree stump.
asciilifeform: now, if you're willing to live like a feral dog, it isn't even necessary to leave the country. i recall, a few years ago, an article about one fellow who lived in a dugout in a u.s. national park. for ~30 years. he was caught by pure chance. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what, like bitcoin ? << ameri-zek could escape if he had 10^7 usd or 10^4 bitcoin, say. but he won't ever see either, 'like his own ears without a mirror.'
decimation: they would have walked out of the gulag without a second thought
decimation: ascii have you seen "Happy People: a year in the taiga"?
thestringpuller: i recently heard of a city in siberia that utilizes more energy to keep the city warm and operate than it would if people just commuted 100's of miles to operate the factories there...
asciilifeform: for most americans, walking to mexico would involve having to work for a living - a punishment far harsher than anything they do in jails here
mircea_popescu: i propose a new highschool charter. it teaches kids nothing, but smacks them every time they use "going to"
thestringpuller: there is a lot to stop you walking from mexico back into the states tho...
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/big-numbers-random-numbers-and-whos-got-your-number/#comment-103357 << kid found a romanian btc atm, wants to know why some derp did it and not i. well.. i'm lazy.
asciilifeform: note that the analogy is not exact. the american equivalent of a soviet job with travel privileges would be, say, the right to own significant foreign (or theoretically liquid enough to become foreign) assets
thestringpuller: sounds like huxley's world would make that a moot issue (humans bred in tanks)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller then eiher it's not a family, you're being forced to or you will be forced to.
asciilifeform: this is why a man with a profession that puts him in range of escape was required to have family.
asciilifeform: if you 'see reason' - you're a free man. get to keep doing what you were doing. except with a little microphone listening, or the like.
asciilifeform: back to the treatment of nothaus - this was SOP for dissident types, at least post-stalin. you land, not in a jail cell, but a comfortable 'hotel room', where no one hangs you upside down, no! - but well-dressed, educated fellows have little chats with you over good coffee - to make you 'see reason.'
asciilifeform: (a trip requires a destination)
asciilifeform: if nothaus is cut loose, we should expect him to turn up eventually in the role of a karpeles or brock pierce.
asciilifeform: in cases like his, it is traditional for the inquisitor to make a series of offers to lighten punishment substantially in exchange for agent recruitment
decimation: "we are coming up to march 2014, so I've been waiting 3 years to be sentenced, this is most unusual. Usually in a federal case you are incarcerated within 60 days after being found guilty."
asciilifeform: (soviet term, in contrast to the 'little jail' - a jail in the usual sense; the big one - ussr.)
asciilifeform: walking the globe without a gps collar ?
asciilifeform: wait, he's outside of a jail ?!
mircea_popescu: this isn't nearly as cut and dried a matter as the usg likes to pretend (forced mistake, it has no alternative than to so pretend).
mircea_popescu: perhaps you need your computers, perhaps you need access to a certain server, who's to know.
asciilifeform: or, to quite relevant film, 'what good is a phone call mr. andersen, if you have no mouth...'
decimation: he has magic hacking powers, give him the a. ames treatment!
asciilifeform: when (imho undeservedly) famous social engineer k. mitnick was captured, the jailers actually believed he was a chtulhu
mircea_popescu: decimation well if it wants to be a republic, it gotta be a republic.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> ascii so the point is that the court can dodge questions of "what exactly are you charging me with?" by making a grand-jury circus? << the principle is that "the people" can charge you with w/o the shit they want.
asciilifeform: decimation: which is why, with the possible exception of folks who can cough up astoundingly large ransom, falling into the hands of u.s. 'justice' system should be thought of as equivalent to ending up in a gestapo dungeon.
decimation: ascii so the point is that the court can dodge questions of "what exactly are you charging me with?" by making a grand-jury circus?
mircea_popescu: compare the father with the son in cat on a hot tin roof. that's it.
mircea_popescu: decimation but you see the signs of decadence much closer to home : the moment people start shying away from calling someone a cunt in the street, because o noes, we're civilised now. that's it.
mircea_popescu: decimation the problem is exactly there : a roman citizen is required to be part of the army, even if he could serve the republic "better" elsewhere.
decimation: but that's a pretty restrcted set
decimation: for some of them, they could be making more money not fixing things and hiring a guy
mircea_popescu: and from there on... anyone with a wrench can wrench a deal out of you.
mircea_popescu: decimation it only indirectly results from a too long period of wealth and power. i know, for i've been wealthy and powerful my entire life. the trick is to not buy into comfort. that's the direct causation : once people become comfortable and think "i'm too wealthy and powerful to be here fucking with a wrench inside this engine on the side of a road".
mircea_popescu: Daniel: "We believe that we can build a better future. We believe that we can enable all to participate in a revolution of collective ownership, something that will radically shift the nature of human society." wtf; are they socialists? <<< lulzy danielpbarron
chetty: I wonder, does the poor Mexican give a tinkers damn either?
decimation: "Decadence is a moral and spiritual disease, resulting from too long a period of wealth and power, producing cynicism, decline of religion, pessimism and frivolity. The citizens of such a nation will no longer make an effort to save themselves, because they are not convinced that anything in life is worth saving."
decimation: just as rich folk could give a tinker's damn what some poor mexican thinks about how things ought to be
mircea_popescu: if only they had a smidgeon of business sense to start back in 2013 by coming here, they'd have actually had a future.
mircea_popescu: and besides, artforz is likely a much larger holder than satoshi himself. IF he had any sense.
mircea_popescu: decimation i am aware. it's not "his" estimation. there's been this thing pushed around since 2011ish, a meme equivalent to "who really is satoshi"
chetty: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/business/the-typical-household-now-worth-a-third-less.html?_r=0
decimation: is there a published analysis of the early blockchain?
decimation: but that kind of opportunity only comes around once a century or two
Duffer1: speaking of.. i haven't heard any ripple news in a while..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform according to their own claims, they got > 5k btc deposited by people looking to get a total 10mn of the shits.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform welcome to the world of a different set of idiocy.
Duffer1: mircea_popescu "..and that ETH trades on a reputable exchange" has "reputable" been defined?
mircea_popescu: try a family of a coupla dozen wives that are all "equal partners" and see.
mircea_popescu: in fact : traditional views on sexuality impose monogamy as a standard because that's the only way to hide just how dumb and inept a commune actually is : by keeping it real small.
mircea_popescu: the problem is exactly what he states : pp makes it easier for the presenter, harder for the audience. this is not a tradeoff you want
decimation: lol maybe, he has a book about it: http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/powerpoint