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mircea_popescu: which brings
the point full circle : relinquishing ANY degree of control over
the currency back
to
the niggers will result in an exact rehash of
the boom/bust cycle of cs development
that has ensured 0 useful anything came out of
three generations of developers by now.
mircea_popescu: the "us vs
them"
thing is very evidently manifest. it also happened
to work for
them a lot better back in 2000, when
they owned
the de facto currency.
mircea_popescu: rich murphey ? he didn't get "hired" by intel from redhat and didn't get
to work on debian and didn't get invited by oreilly
to eat rubber chicken so he doesn't exist as per wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: it is also eerily reminiscent of "political attacks on financial networks began, as for example
the Federal reserve act of 1913,
the goal always being
to wind up
the network into a single"
mircea_popescu: rather
than port extant drivers
to a
twice defunct pile of code made by mit i'd rather paint
tits on a boar.
mircea_popescu: then create a new ukraine for
them, which
then entirely bankrupt in a decade.
mircea_popescu: should be studied in school ffs. mike harris of redhat complained
to packard
that
these people weren't sufficiently o'reillyed. gotta color revolution!!1
a111: Logged on 2016-02-21 21:51 mircea_popescu: x.org just recently lost
their only asset because of inept "non profit" shenanigans.
mircea_popescu: "In 2011, O'Reilly awarded an open source award
to Packard, as "the person behind most of
the improvements made on
the open source desktop in
the last
ten years at least.""
mircea_popescu: the idiotic ustard discursive posturing was intolerable even cca 2003. "Persistent problems in XFree86 development have become widely recognised within
the X community. I have
talked
to people
throughout
the X community in a search for solutions." check out
the utter nigger
talk.
mircea_popescu: srsly, 2.5mn dollars is a fraction of what
they want ?
mircea_popescu: in random lulz : apparently at some point in
the 80s, dec has 1200 people working on porting x
to ultrix/vms
ben_vulpes: imma sit here mashing refresh on
trinque.org
trinque: I will be happy
to continue
this discussion as comments in my blog in near future
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am somewhat unsurprised
the immediate reaction is
to
take
the matter outside of
the computer.
trinque: xev output is fine for
this purpose.
mircea_popescu: but
this discussion would definitely benefit from clear domain definition and numeric measurements, as
trinque well points out.
trinque: then once had we can bog it down by also doing crunching in another
thread and dumping output of
teh hash
to
the scroll pane
mircea_popescu: gotta solve
this dispute somehow.
the correct somehow is
to start bolting down parts. first we check
this,
then we can see if it's a matter of cl implementation is fine, ui is bad.
mircea_popescu: alf's
touchy-feely notions of "slow" aren't particularily interesting, but it would be worth noting if it
takes 10x or 100x
the cycles
to deliver
the same result.
trinque: mircea_popescu:
the hash wouldn't slow anybody down because I'd be hashing in one
thread, updating UI with results in another as
they pop out
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform interestingly,
the only
time i ever encountered such delays before was on ssh sessions.
trinque: your own code determines when
these
things happen!
ben_vulpes: no, being glib. point is
that gadgets can be made
to look however.
ben_vulpes: can i slam other pngs in
there? probably. great.
ben_vulpes: yeah, emerge, network managers, gui wrappers around os stuff is very uninteresting (but i suppose useful in
the case of eg fs browser 'dired' and climacsy presentations). what i *want* is a lispy gui
toolkit and i do not give one screaming fuck re "omg ancient athena widgets"
mircea_popescu: there's an impedance mismatch between description and labeling
though. i expect my wine bottle
to say "wine bottle" rather
than
the more accurate "dubious suspension of
tanic acid salts in water"
trinque: that said
the various CLIM explorers of
the lisp system were ~rad~, integrated debugger etc, rad
trinque: the presence of e.g. network manager in
the
thing shows
the lack of an eye for what constitutes cruft in gentooland
trinque: I emphatically do not want anyone
telling me how
to run gentoo when I've been doing so myself almost as long as it has existed.
trinque: I
think he would've been wiser
to say "I wish
to replace emacs with a CL environment"
than "this is a step
towards sane computing" or somesuch
trinque: can't play coy; display
the fucking item
trinque: asciilifeform: we have all been railing on
that fact
to no avail
ben_vulpes: i will not write
this
theorem in cocoa, qt, wx, or any of
the ilk.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why i was under
the impression it was 210 + laptop.
ben_vulpes: even if it's a pile of shit g_l found and
tar'd up.
ben_vulpes: four hundred dollars is a pittance
to pay for a documented common lisp ui development story
mircea_popescu: i can't evaluate same ever ; after some cursory attempts
to help
the evaluation i'm resigned
to let it evaluate itself.
trinque: I dunno it's accurate
to say
the guy just grabbed something he found, but it's at
the present impossible for me
to evaluate how much code is g_l and how much found.
phf: oh oh, right, exactly. something about dat wording followed by familiar words was very amusing
to me
phf: "or you could ignore all of
this stupid shit and buy a Masamune for 410USD plus
the price of
the hardware"
mircea_popescu: i know but why would you use
the ssh client as a
text editor