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mircea_popescu: and never are heard from again, except for muffled cries in the solitude of the night.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform welcopme to linux world alfie. i hear it's where the smart boys go.
mircea_popescu: it's kinda how america ruined itself, too, ironically enough.
mircea_popescu: as they say, "nothing ruins a start-up quite like a bad money source early on"
mircea_popescu: after the deal your incentive is to sell more future income for its present value.
mircea_popescu: while before the deal your incentive might have been to realise future income,
mircea_popescu: essentially, you(before the deal) and you(after the deal) are different and irreconciliably so.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne no, but i also don't ask it to sent me to college.
mircea_popescu: yes, yes. but is it a mutual agreement of that kind, where you're teh slavegirl.
mircea_popescu: like, guy going to homestead in 1800s utah. if he goes, there's going to be his homestead. if he doesn't go... there isn't going to be.
mircea_popescu: case I : causal. this satisfies both implication : with investment there NECESSARILY exists return ; without investment there NECESSARILY doesn't exist return.
mircea_popescu: same thing with "investing in children". sure, you send schmuck to college, and someone 20 years later is going to be well educated.
mircea_popescu: while it's true that the somebody who wins might even be the guy, the fact remains that someone'd win whether the guy bought or didn't buy ticket.
mircea_popescu: case II : coincidental. guy buys lottery ticket. someone wins the lottery.
mircea_popescu: the relation between the "investment" and the "return" is purely hallucinated.
mircea_popescu: guy pays fortune teller for good stuff in the future. good stuff happens in the future.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne let's go through this, it will be instructive. so, case III, halucinatorily related.
mircea_popescu: does your expenditure CAUSE the return ? is it merely coincidental with the return ? is it merely halucinatorily related ?
mircea_popescu: all the derpy parents that "invest" in their children are making a stylistic choice of words, nothing more. it's a waste not an investment.
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as tools that make people smarter.
mircea_popescu: Adlai how about b) and make it good enough so its effect upon the world is to make more people of the like adlai can stand
mircea_popescu: the angle being discussed is : give a man a hammer, suddenly he's looking for nails.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> the tool does not drive the fucking user << o really.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i suspect in this sense git may be TOO easy to use. at least in some aspects.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> the idea needs further development before anyone executes << he has a point, and while attempted executions would prlly be useful iterations, it IS a timesink.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field obviously you have to first download the mod.
mircea_popescu: then insert the resulting so into the apache config prepended lists
mircea_popescu: this is a problem which will have to be solved, eventually. maybe not by us, maybe not in our lifetimes,
mircea_popescu: it was going to be a signed version of 448 lines of code
mircea_popescu: you're slowly rebuidling hoon here or w/e it was called.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne it's exactly what it iwas, and exactly why i asked him the question.
mircea_popescu: it requires a hard guarantee you will never want more than 10 categories at any level.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field but while we're doing the "what dope" thing, why the fuck is apache "apache2"
mircea_popescu: the fact that i own a gas station does in no way alleviate the problem that laurel&hardy cars.