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unseen: mike_c seems to have a different quality than anything else in the bitcoin sphere. kinda like it.
mircea_popescu: how the heck does one structure a depositor insurance thing in btc ;/
mike_c: mpex just ran off with everyone's btc a few weeks ago. luckily it got lonely and came back.
mike_c: or, maybe he needs an interface like mpex. might be a bigger market for that than one would think.
mircea_popescu: would you be interested in working out a consumer insurance scheme ?
mike_c: fwiw, i've never heard a complaint about coinbr.
mircea_popescu: maybe buy a safe vehicle build with you in mind, like mpif, through a broker
mircea_popescu: it's really a bad idea to get involved in bitcoin investment if 30 btc is a major hit to your holdings.
mircea_popescu: the state is just a wrapper.
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "a business account". businesses exist as declarations from people in the wot. sovereignity in business is invested with the principals, the business is just a wrapper.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: my result is we need a new wot <<< what nonsense is this ?!
mircea_popescu: unseen you know what they say, best time to open a mpex acct was when it was free. 2nd best is now.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: probly removed cuz they wanna use whatever the fuck amount whenever the fuck << well it looked funny cycling it 5k at a time.
mircea_popescu: fucking trolls these people. Subject: IMMEDIATE VERIFICATION required ; Body : [blablabla] You have a 15 day window from the time of the original registration to verify the email address.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how many people call you a faggot in the averagde week ?
unseen: so it is still 30BTC to join MPEX? used to be the same when BTC value was a lower?
mircea_popescu: since im doing a cleanning here, anyone want bitcoin-financials.com/net/org ?
fluffypony: it has a certain je ne sais quoi
mircea_popescu: such a hotbed of dissent this cha
fluffypony: not a chance :-P
mircea_popescu: and a hot body.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski hey get in touch when you have a moment
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenki hey get in touch when you have a moment
mircea_popescu: this is starting to sound a lot like seven and soda.
mircea_popescu: MAKE ME A VULPE DAMNIT
ben_vulpes: lady v's already pretty set on tallulah for a female name
mircea_popescu: the horror of the interwebs you know, imagine you're 40, just got divorced, and while going through some old websites find a convo where your parents decided your name 2 years prior to birth in an irc chat.
mircea_popescu: but please OH PLEASE do me a favour, and if you have a girl
kakobrekla: you still think there is a risk of that eh
mircea_popescu: or even a bad one.,
mircea_popescu: just as long as he has a good excuse.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: lol Bollywood: http://imgur.com/a/6EMBE << yeah because three doods in a shirt and a bleeding mouth are such genius fresh and original visual concepts.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: why are you such a dick and just tell em you wont pay? << that's like -ev neh ?
mircea_popescu: hm is 219 the most populos b-a ever been ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: "Me siento con suerte" sounds like the title of a poem, doesn't have the same ring to it as "I'm feeling lucky" << srsly. most shit in spanish sounds poetic.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: eheh. outrage-driven is clearly the right qualifier << i like the girl, she's got word propriety. this is a rare skill, as it requires a lot more in depth knowledge than your average internet tard can possibly muster.
mircea_popescu: dub: assetteers sounds like part of a porno name << Alanis Assetteers ?
los_pantalones: The Facebook URL was also pretty convincing – why would someone be stating a Facebook page that wasn’t their own ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, there's not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that this is exactly coindesk.
mircea_popescu: i wish there was some way to make a bitbet about this.
mike_c: someone should string them along a bit. that should make it obvious.
mircea_popescu: mike_c i have a lot of experience with wanna-be spammer kids. this is simply "plausible denial", as they understand it.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't, think a moment.
mircea_popescu: idiots consider having "theirname"@twitter, gmail etc a business move.
kakobrekla: i was still in bed when lampelina came in yelling "lmao coindesk called you a fagot!"
mike_c: you actually got them to call you a faggot?
kakobrekla: a follow up: >So I take that back and just give you a plain fuck you.
kakobrekla: >In fact, there are more searches now for crowdfunding platform Kickstarter than "buy a stock," according to the Google Trends data researched by ConvergEx.
pankkake: re iOS blockchain wallet, it's just a feature, it's the Apple price
nanotube: this is not new, it's been in effect for at least a year now
rithm: good solution to a problem
punkman: right "Only people who already have a trust rating in the system can rate other users. "
rithm: idk i'm just a poor pawn.
Blazedout419: you have to have a rating to rate?
Blazedout419: new users can not rate now unless they have a rating
danielpbarron: well each account would need to have a unique address associated with it; you can't share an address between acounts.. that would defeat the purpose
punkman: still need to get first account in nanotube's L2, then if you rate a dozen, you are kinda obvious
artifexd: There was an anti-sockpuppet scheme that revolved around committing bitcoin for a certain amount of time. I'm having trouble finding the details right now.
punkman: rithm, takes a lot of time to build up shill accounts as it is
danielpbarron: you don't have to charge for entry to make it cost prohibitive for scammers; just require they associate with a Bitcoin address that has a positive balance; kinda like a proof-of-stake
ThickAsThieves: the only way to make it have a cost is to do it like namecoin
rithm: i don't have a solution sorry
kakobrekla: but when bitcoin started, there werent enough people for that as well, just a circlejerk
ThickAsThieves: i'd donate money to a proper effort to make such things
danielpbarron: maybe require that all WoT users have a Bitcoin address associated that has a balance of X amount
rithm: a token of some sort
ThickAsThieves: so a coin
rithm: pay a fee to enter
punkman: ;;rate danielpbarron 1 #b-a regular
rithm: right artifexd. i sortof behave here because my peers are watching and i'd hate for someone to think I'm not a person of my word
danielpbarron: bump me from a -2 to a -3 and i can't rate anymore :<
ThickAsThieves: Say the WoT is decentralized, supports more fields of data, has full API for integration for things like logging in to facebook or visiting Italy. The stronger and more prevelant the WoT gets, the more likely it is to become a requirement
danielpbarron: rithm, it already is gaurded; you need to be in nanotube's L2 to be able to give a rating apparently
rithm: i do not have a solution but i think entry into the wot should be guarded
ThickAsThieves: i dislike the extreme which becomes possible with a "better" wot
rithm: one entity can complete ruin a cumulative rating in your "free for all" system
danielpbarron: well, it sorta does make a difference at the moment, because nanotube won't let you even give a rating if your score goes negative (i think)
rithm: so this is a L1/L2 difference of opinions
mike_c: rithm: but it's only harmful if 'total points' is a thing. joe schmoe isn't going to change thhe gettrust between you and others.
rithm: and i've heard a lot of stupid shit
danielpbarron: anyway; the WoT isn't harmed by scammers or trolls; it harms nothing to let anyone give a rating
chetty: <rithm> where does this everyone has a voice mentality come from?//equality notions
Blazedout419: well danielpbarron not going to beat the dead horse here, but your ratings are a joke
rithm: where does this everyone has a voice mentality come from?
danielpbarron: the one potential problem I see happening with nanotube's WoT, is that a small majority can prevent a user from even giving ratings..
ThickAsThieves: one problem i have for my vision of a decentralized wot, is when i simulate it in my end, it turns into a sort of international passport system over time and could totally remove anonymity from so many areas of life, and well, is that what we really want?
Blazedout419: I just think for a business the scores matter more
BigBitz: 10 points from ninjashogun is a gift.
danielpbarron: ThickAsThieves, the points already *are* weighted; a user in your L1 can only pass along as much rating to someone's L2 score as you have given them
Blazedout419: how 1 mad person can wreck a total score...and most are too dumb to notice it
mike_c: nanotube: why show "total points" on rating page? i thought that was supposed to be a meaningless number.
ThickAsThieves: i was about to say, but how does a business claim it's listing?
ThickAsThieves: something like turn namecoin in a wot
ThickAsThieves: it's certainly a topic that could use more discourse and work \
Blazedout419: for a business bad ratings can hurt more than for a regular user
mike_c: ok, but that's separate from having a business account
ThickAsThieves: i have a whole 20% done article on it
Blazedout419: or a seperate WOT for business...something
ThickAsThieves: my result is we need a new wot
ThickAsThieves: <+trixisowned> this is removed //// it was a pretty retarded line to have in there