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phf: the other thing, and that's somewhat of a personal preference, i think Create_Temporary_File should either act identical to create or be called something else. right now it clashes with ada's naming convention
ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the remaining stateside fuckgoats are packed in a specific box that i will relocate with my person.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right, it is a niggers.txt.xls document
asciilifeform: for non-ru folx, procrusted link goes to a thing re an anti-faggotry protest in ukrlandia
phf: i wonder what sort of technology those heathen node walkers use, i.e. if it's a patched up bitcoin client, or if they have own protocol parsers. seems like too much serious know how for the later
asciilifeform: this line of thought was prompted by my 'trb observatory', which has uncovered a number of 'mpb'-style nodes, i.e. trb-like but not presenting 'modern' vers and therefore invisible from heathen www indices ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'd like a (ideally real-time) picture of the actual network.
asciilifeform: phf: i was aiming for 3 basic things : 1) recursively getaddr entire reachable btc net, perhaps erry hour or so 2) find trb-compat (i.e. 'services' == 1 ) non-pseudos (i.e. if i pull block hash out of a hat, he quickly gives correct block) and eventually 3) get inv's and monitor tx propagations.
phf: yeah, i wrote a small subset of bitcoin protocol in lisp, but rolled my own binary types. i think i can ask for version, and i can also ask for peers, and i started on getblock functionality..
asciilifeform: phf: context : i was baking a noad walker / torturer, orig in python, little thing, thought it would be doable in a day or 2; then found that mass of prb etc all break protocol in 9000 interesting ways, an extra byte here an' there, and realized that it aint doable without adult condition handling/restarts, which means cl.
asciilifeform: prolly the eventual Right Thing will be when we proclaim a republican cltron and start massaging it to eventually climb to that level.
phf: yeah, pretty much. a totally different experience from, say, sbcl, and a lot closer to a real lisp machine too. comes with all the things builtin, so you never really need to touch outside world
phf: it's a compatability layer between lisp machines, and as such provides a minimum of coverage of common functionality.
phf: well, after reading the CADR documentation, source code and generally spending more time on a lisp machine, i realized that modern common lisp is a cargo cult. i'm not sure how naggum didn't see it, but possibly because his lisp was emacs/cmucl/franz
phf: asciilifeform: well, a portability layer is the ultimate ifdef, and in this case worse written by somebody else
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 00:17 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862183 << no, i don't use portability packages in my own code (they are the hole through which the darkness comes), and when something pulls it as a dependency, it comes from quicklisp
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 23:31 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf wouldja happen to have a frozen nonretarded version of bordeaux-threads somewhere ? the one i have, is utterly sad, squats nickname 'bt' which prevents binary-types from working...
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862183 << no, i don't use portability packages in my own code (they are the hole through which the darkness comes), and when something pulls it as a dependency, it comes from quicklisp ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: billymg: With mp-wp the three most common sources of headbanging are: file and directory permissions, .htaccess (if running apache), and pressing into a populated direction (As in you press, aren't sure anything happened and press again into the output directory without cleansing it; prevalence of this one depends on particular v-tron used))
billymg: about to step out for a bit but have been keeping notes and will put together a writeup after mp-wp is successfully pressed/running
trinque: we'll need it for a wpmp ebuild
billymg: trinque: thanks for the tip about custom ebuilds. was able to do a local ebuild of the libmcrypt dep by taking what was in upstream and just changing the EAPI version to 6. installed fine, and then php-5.6.38 went fine as well
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 18:18 asciilifeform: the 1 'litmus test' i was able to think of , is the 'i pick a block hash and you gimme the block in <1s' algo.
asciilifeform: the particular experiment here is a node exerciser, rather than block eater, in cl
ben_vulpes: i've since just cut over to using postgres' own godly datetime knobs because a) better in every way b) works with timezones trivially
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862478 i lost a few hours to cl-postgres/postmodern/simple date over the past two months; there is now some cl-postgres-simple-date-glue package that needs loading in order for postmodern to use its local-date set of classes. once upon a time loading simple-date after cl-postgres was enough to get the mechanisms in place. ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: unrelatedly, i resolved the binary-types thing, will eventually genesis a working ver.
trinque: purged a few pieces of technical debt lingering from the rapid prototype I built during the schism. sorry to have made you a casualty of the purge!
asciilifeform: but let's suppose utkin had instead built a rocket that occupies all but one metre of standard rail car. i suspect that it would not have been received warmly by the brass, and at the very least they'd ask why, 'what will go in that free metre of car ? tinned fish ?'
asciilifeform: ^ the gizmo on the right, was a hydraulic thing to push any electric wires above the tracks, out of the way. whole thing was pretty clever.
asciilifeform: on 1 occasion it was found necessary to build a icbm rocket that is too heavy for 1 car. head designer v. f. utkin found solution, he had a system of springs to distribute the weight between ~two~ cars. this is analogous to udp fraggism. ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is the Right Thing, i.e. if you want a variant to exist, you gotta maintain it.
ave1: sorry p3 touches the A as it is after p1
ave1: then p3 touches A
ave1: well, if I have file A and B, and p1 touches A and B, and p2 touches A in the same way as p1 but B differently
asciilifeform: all presses are deterministic , a particular leaf produces a particular press.
asciilifeform: and instead each variant is a thing that its author is forced to actually test as-written.
asciilifeform: and ideally erry 'alt' variant has a maintainer, who will regrind so that his variant continues to be usable .
diana_coman: I can see the history is preserved angle, certainly; and a nice thing for sure; but there is a cost for it and I'm not sure the benefits make up for it
asciilifeform: so it was possible to write a proggy that used items from multiple trees.
diana_coman: maybe I didn't understand then what you mean by "patch that pulls in specific state from a parallel tree"
asciilifeform: imho 'unifiers' (i.e. patch that pulls in specific state from a parallel tree) is a cleaner way of accomplishing this than cut&paste, but i was unable to persuade. ☟︎
asciilifeform: he had a pretty good arg imho, tho, that when you write on top of a specific lib, you oughta freeze it in, rather than permit it to change 'under you' at any point.
diana_coman: hm, perhaps being a reference implementation it makes sense to remain as branch there and otherwise the tree continues along the main line (not reference)
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 15:55 diana_coman: as it is, it will be a .vpatch after the lookup implementation - so linear sequence rather than alternative; you might want to branch the tree instead from *before* the lookup implementation so that your div version is effectively alternative branch
diana_coman: as it is, it will be a .vpatch after the lookup implementation - so linear sequence rather than alternative; you might want to branch the tree instead from *before* the lookup implementation so that your div version is effectively alternative branch ☟︎☟︎
diana_coman: ave1, typos: "opation" "to determin" "here a short list" "therefor" "registor" "zero's" "implentation" "not if statements"
trinque: (obvs I'm about to ask for a wpmp ebuild, but one step at a time)
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862301 << write an ebuild for your preferred PHP, explain why it's preferred in a blog post on a wpmp instance, and I'll rate you ☝︎
billymg: BingoBoingo: yeah, i spent a good bit of time trying to update @world this morning, masking packages one-by-one, and eventually gave up
diana_coman: ave1, thanks for the update, I'll look at it in a minute
diana_coman: bvt, get yourself a pizarro shared account and start your blog there precisely with those pastes, what's keeping you? ☟︎
ave1: Unfortunately is does not read as a straight long division anymore. But copying of the input array is avoided and
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 01:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862164 << yes ; cuz all 1470s go to one process and all 1472s go to a different one. eventually as a scalability thing could even go to diff box altogether. there's not so muchrelation between the two types.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862203 -> the point as I see it is precisely that physically there actually is only ONE type anyway so any different types/sizes is in fact a higher level filtering no matter what (i.e. having 2 different processes each with its own size doesn't mean that each will actually get only the size it wants) ☝︎
jurov: Hi all thebitcoin.foundation is being switched to new server, not just the A record but whole DNS changed, there might be issues next few hours.
Mocky: the important point being that as a matter of policy, perpetuating smaller packet sizes is a bad idea
asciilifeform: from electrical pov, you win nuffin by shortening'em under a frame.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 04:50 asciilifeform: there's no reason os's udp should even fucking accept a sub-frame packet payload. or super-framed.
Mocky: if a program wants to send 200 byte packets only, too bad, os won't allow cuz asciilifeform says your small number not godly?
asciilifeform: there's no reason os's udp should even fucking accept a sub-frame packet payload. or super-framed. ☟︎
asciilifeform: they're a bus with 4 brake pedals.
asciilifeform: Mocky: unixism per se had ~nuffin to do with it. incut away a degree of freedom. unnecessary degrees of freedom are fundamentally harmful in re simplicity/sanity.
Mocky: it's a simplifying assumption that pays off with smooth transition between program and unix, when it holds. a tactical cut
asciilifeform: diana_coman has a 'generic' ver, a kind of ada cheat i suggested ; but it has minus of preventing restriction encapsulation, as well as inevitably moar complex receiver (mine handles one size and one size only)
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 20:48 diana_coman: asciilifeform, hmm, there is certainly a case for same size precisely because way simpler code
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 23:51 asciilifeform: trinque: i dun suppose you have a cured binary-types ? ( cured, but presently fails to run when i strip away the asdfism so i can work it into my tree bodily )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 20:48 diana_coman: asciilifeform, hmm, there is certainly a case for same size precisely because way simpler code
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862164 << yes ; cuz all 1470s go to one process and all 1472s go to a different one. eventually as a scalability thing could even go to diff box altogether. there's not so muchrelation between the two types. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 07:14 hanbot: anyway the idea is to have an exhaustive list of news outlets with their contact email made, after which i'll have her mail that blurb; i expect something like a week's turnaround, and will report when it's done.
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun suppose you have a cured binary-types ? ( cured, but presently fails to run when i strip away the asdfism so i can work it into my tree bodily ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: !Qlater tell phf wouldja happen to have a frozen nonretarded version of bordeaux-threads somewhere ? the one i have, is utterly sad, squats nickname 'bt' which prevents binary-types from working...
a111: Logged on 2015-12-24 18:35 asciilifeform: 'if two trains meet one another on a track, neither shall move until the other has passed.' (supposedly from a 1880s american state law)
asciilifeform: grr for fuck's sake what use is a bot that dun go half the time
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf wouldja happen to have a frozen nonretarded version of bordeaux-threads somewhere ? the one i have, is utterly sad, squats nickname 'bt' which prevents binary-types from working... ☟︎
asciilifeform: simply a 16bit field.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 16:25 mircea_popescu: ok, so this back of a digital envelope seems to suggest we want : 1. fixed size 1470 byte rsa packets, made to work with 3920-bit rsa (of which i presume the useful message size to be 1872 bit, diana_coman plox to confirm maffs ?). such a packet has then 1696 bits spare for e and bullshit.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hmm, there is certainly a case for same size precisely because way simpler code ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: cuz if it's simply to distinguish the rsa from the symmetricolade without wasting a bit in the payload, could simply listen on 2 ports...
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:46 mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen.
trinque: I figure now's a good time to purge the unrated. for the few with ratings on both, I can merge to the nick with earliest rating, or drop.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:46 mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Right, there's a small herd of boys
BingoBoingo: There's a whole epidemic of this in England, fat pasty cows breaking drinkwear and maiming men interested in human shaped women
BingoBoingo: I mean they went to the mall with the pasty moo cows and came back with the same moo cows and not a single one of the fine specimens fo feminimity that populates the mall
BingoBoingo: Prolly only 3500-4500 ish for a dozen ish girls, only one clearly at 300 lbs.
mircea_popescu remembers the days he could eye-weight a herd of fillies for loading in cattle trucks ; he could get within 1% of true weight just by watching them stand ; at the time a 7 ton truck took ten to eleven dozen young whores.
mircea_popescu: 5k lbs for a dozenish people ?
BingoBoingo still remembers the Irish/British/US college aged english teacher invasion of the hostel for a visa run
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey there's a reason wai the armenians ate as much lead as they did
mircea_popescu: why his fathers ever left Hayastan; for it seems to me much better to be a murdered prince in Hayastan than a living vagabond in London."
mircea_popescu: anyway, author of above vomit is NOT anglo, but ~armenian~. in his own words, "while for an Armenian, who soon realises that his nationality is considered as something of a _faux pas_, there are none of these things, and he is entirely lost in the wilderness, for there is no solid background to his existence in another's country; and, as the days lengthen out and he grows tired of walking in the Green Park, he comes to wonder
mircea_popescu: love, but only content. But they do not see that; they insist on spoiling love, breaking the vase with stupid, unconscious hands; and when it breaks they are surprised, and they say that love is a fickle thing and will stand no tests, and that women are the very devil. Always they spoil love; it comes and finds them helpless, puzzling whether to clothe themselves entirely in reserve or whether to be entirely naked in brutalit
mircea_popescu: ove breaks down all barriers between man and woman; that love is a vase of iron, unbreakable, and not, as it is, a vase of the most delicate and brittle pottery, to be broken to pieces by the least touch of a careless hand. They seem to think that the state of love stands at the end of a great striving; they do not realise that it is only the beginning, and that the striving must never cease, for without striving there is no
mircea_popescu: and delicacy, for there was always something coarse, some little note which jarred, some movement of the mind and body maladroit, in a man who is shown a woman's love. "When men love and are not loved," she said, "often they kept their grace and pride, and women are proud to be loved by such men--even faithfully for more than ten years; but when men are loved and are confident, then they seem to lose delicacy, to think that l
mircea_popescu: "We sat on chairs in the sun, and after we had been silent a long while, she began to do what women will never cease doing, so wise men say, as long as men say they love them, to define what the love of a man meant to a woman, and to explain the love of a man. She said that that man was wise who had said that love was like religion, and must be done well or not at all, but that she had never yet found in any man sincere love
trinque: btw no insult meant to esthlos; we'll get an ebuild in there for his vtron as well, but he lacks a differ, and thus it's not a full v
asciilifeform: ( my old workhorse x60 is not a cuntoo, it is in fact my original deloused-gentoo platform on which i derived the poetteringism-exclusion, gcc<5, etc flags and related items )
trinque: can't wait to see a post on that either
asciilifeform: trinque: this will rock. and incidentally i'ma be baking that sunlight lappy next wk, and intend to set it up as a cuntoo box with whatever bleeding edge you come out with