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BingoBoingo: trinque: ty, copy's due for another cleaning indeed
trinque: ^ you precede it with telling someone how much it sucks to try to house a box
trinque: "Getting machines to the DC is a bit of a hike, and you're welcome to ship out with one of our supply runs to the "space station".
trinque: BingoBoingo: open at all to copy improvements on the pizarroisp.net site?
BingoBoingo: trinque: ty and welcome back
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 08:33:52 phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926224 << perhaps quarter dead, but days go to going to hospital for daily wounds dressing, sleeping a lot and going for walks, i have another sugery on monday to close me up.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 20:54:50 trinque: the fog was induced by you being on your ass if anything; never blame a substance
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929257 << I cannot argue with this. In any case, I no longer intend to be on said ass
trinque: if we are content with that deedbot may come back under a different name (as if freenode is the canonical repository of anything) I'll remove the SSL cruft.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 22:34:33 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927722 << i have a suspicion that trinque set it to cycle at 0hrs (in frustration re socket wedge ?)
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927727 << precisely right. what wedges, from my investigation here and elsewhere, is the seam between cl+ssl and openssl.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:46:59 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: you actually improved my archive process with just such a bash one-liner. I still use it to this day to get around the 'cloudflare' crapola. But you know, 10 years spent in a pot-induced fog tends to make one miss the obvious. I'm working with a new brain these days
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927501 << lol wtf excuse is this
trinque: hm lemme switch links from now on then.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 13:09:14 thimbronion: BingoBoingo: here is a re-encrypted copy of the encrypted message you sent me earlier as evidence I have the private key: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Kkmtg/?raw=true
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 5 days, 6 hours, and 25 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pizarro/2019-08-11#1000032 << Fellow from earlier indeed appears to have his private key. When you get a chance to, please swing by #pizarro to see if you can help him debug his issue decrypting deedbot strings to !!v.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 00:44:50 thimbronion: BingoBoingo: I can't decrypt the invoice - it is encrypted to a key I don't have.
a111: Logged on 2019-08-11 17:45 BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell trinque http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pizarro/2019-08-11#1000032 << Fellow from earlier indeed appears to have his private key. When you get a chance to, please swing by #pizarro to see if you can help him debug his issue decrypting deedbot strings to !!v.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-11#1927317 << am looking into it this evening. there's a known issue with moving keys from A to B that I'm going to resolve ☝︎
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/08/impotent-usg-unseals-warrant-for-liberated-iranian-tanker/ << Qntra -- Impotent USG Unseals "Warrant" For Liberated Iranian Tanker
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/usta-swingers-club-ul-jozefa-strusia-5-in-warsaw-poland-and-other-things/ << Trilema -- Usta Swingers Club (ul. Jzefa Strusia 5), in Warsaw, Poland ; and other things.
BingoBoingo: Could also migrate from Alaska to Canada. More easily than Greenland to anywhere else. Gotta keep the inmates in.
asciilifeform: alaska not bigenuff to meet projected gula^H^H^H^Hresettlement capacity ?
BingoBoingo: Apparently Minnesota doesn't have enough room to resettle all of the warm climate "refugees" into proper cold climates?
asciilifeform: wai now the bargain bin.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol!! i thought crapple was to 'buy russia'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 07:18:07 mp_en_viaje: pretty fucking epic qntra thursday, wtf! nice BingoBoingo !
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929009 << tyvm, seems like the epic week of keks has slowed down substantially today. Unless rumors and inuendos the Pantsuits want to talk about concerning how Trump may or may not be trying to negotiate a Greenland purchase count.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/08/nyc-subway-station-temporarily-shuttered-over-presence-of-pressure-cookers/ << Qntra -- NYC Subway Station Temporarily Shuttered Over Presence Of Pressure Cookers
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:52:44 mp_en_viaje: i expect large portions of lobbesbot actually salvageable ; spyked was making a lisp one too iirc.
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-14#1928785 <-- ftr, just to make sure this isn't lost: this is the next item on my list after thetarpit commentz and hunchentoot genesis.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/09b-hunchentoot-v.html << The Tar Pit -- Hunchentoot: taskmaster code review
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929170 << abolished by peter I . what's ~it~ doing in unicode ? and if ~this~ is there, wainot also egyptian hiroglyphs ?
asciilifeform: ♨ << loox like 'java log' ?!! (what's it doing in unicoad? is there 'coca cola' logo also?! and if not -- wainot?? )
asciilifeform: ♞ << funnily enuff has ~ears~ on my terminals. as in no chess b00k afaik ever.
asciilifeform: or i suppose possible that these are in fact microshit 'wingdings', and the genuine q/r/etc are elsewhere in that talmud
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 10:42:11 mp_en_viaje: ℕ ℤ ℚ ℝ hey wtf stylization is this, R for reals is a double bar-r not a double-r-superimposed! and rationals is Q with a single bar left, not two bars left and right. WTF!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929178 << these btw are mutilated, as per mp's description, on erry terminal i have. evidently bakers of uniturd standard never bothered to open a maffs schoolbook...
asciilifeform: will issue vpatch later tonight/tomorrow
asciilifeform: i'ma leave off with these, cuz erryone prolly already tossed their lunch ; but who has idea re others, welcome to throw in.
mp_en_viaje: ⎲ ⎳ << check it out, they have large sum!
mp_en_viaje: ℕ ℤ ℚ ℝ hey wtf stylization is this, R for reals is a double bar-r not a double-r-superimposed! and rationals is Q with a single bar left, not two bars left and right. WTF!
mp_en_viaje: U+0426 Ц Cyrillic Capital Letter Tse
mp_en_viaje: U+0236 ȶ 566 Latin Small Letter T with curl
mp_en_viaje: keks even my term chokes on that shit.
asciilifeform now, finally, goes to tea. brb.
asciilifeform: ty for reading the paste of bot, phf ; evidently not 1 other soul read!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 21:23:52 asciilifeform: 'I mean literally, the guy's from Washitistan, they write things with their own excrement there, and the Unicode Foundation introduced actual excrement in the standard so now whenever someone asks for the networking code in your project they are delivered physical faeces on cardboard. About fifty eight acres of it. Where would you like this put, sir ?' (tm)(r)(mp)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje when you wake up, plox to reissue the barfologies if you still have'em handy. whole episode may easily be 'coarse error of pilotage' of asciilifeform
asciilifeform: lobbes plox to move your bot here, where it belongs, lol
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought he had multichan support, but apparently moved it wholesale to #a-test , lol
asciilifeform unplugs the one in #asciilifeform-test , is redundant nao
asciilifeform: on 2nd thought, i'ma do the swap nao, ~erryone seems to be asleep
asciilifeform would like to add hexdump logging on all eggog, before resetting the main bot
asciilifeform: phf: ty; appears to be the reason for the barf seen vs. lobbes's collection of barfolade. nao need to reproduce mp_en_viaje's
asciilifeform: for some reason thought .strip an' .decode were destructive ops, when wrote this
phf: asciilifeform: you have a bug in your code, data.strip(b'\r\n').decode('latin-1') is not assigned to data, so ultimately payload is still a latin-1 bytestring
asciilifeform: the latin-1 fallbacks, per phf's algo, re-encode happily, python per se dun barf. postgres barfs when fed the result.
asciilifeform: representative example barfology from test using lobbes's turd last night in #asciilifeform-test
asciilifeform: phf: this -- worx . this is not the problem. problem happens when the re-encoded string is fed to postgres.
phf: well, correct hence "something else wrong", i've only verified what i already knew, that latin-1 decoded to "unicode" is otherwise indistinguishable from any other unicode, and can then be encoded to utf-8
asciilifeform: the phf-style variant is currently sitting in #asciilifeform-test , btw, and can be diddled , put turd there and try to search for it, if it's in the test bot's log, search will return correct res
asciilifeform: phf: post plz how tested and which py.
phf: asciilifeform: that is something else wrong with your code, i've tested with some local python and it works as expected
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 20:31:27 asciilifeform: meanwhile, update re unitardation -- phf's pill doesn't cure -- decoder successfully falls back to 'latin-1', if set up as described, and dun barf ; but ~encoder~ barfs in pg ( cur.execute(query, args) )
asciilifeform: phf: the issue seems to be postgres , i.e. mine is set to utf8 , so anything that is to sit down in it gotta validly re-encode to utf8
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 09:52:44 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929071 << the interesting bit is that i got 0 barf when importing phf's log (i.e. including all of the historic uniturds seen in log in 'era 2')
phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929100 << particular utf-8 otherwise latin-1 trick also exists in cl-irc for example (i believe the python irc logger i looked at long time ago also had it), so log messages that a111 gets are already converted in this way.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 09:49:00 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje when you wake up, plz describe how you actually got the barfola into yer irc client, so can reproduce.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 14:45 phf: mircea_popescu's xchat specifically still does that. so his latin-1 encodable text comes out as such, otherwise it gets promoted to utf-8
a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 14:44 phf: but not necessarily your special encoding. so client will guess the encoding of the line you're sending, and if it can be encoded as latin-1 it'll send it as such, otherwise utf-8
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 08:00:13 mp_en_viaje: the only possible conclusion is that unicode support is actually broken on either the flask, the python outright, or some other library asciilifeform is using there. it's true that it was coincidentally discovered by cp1252 translation failure, but it is not limited to that. things missing from nsa log like the micron above are plain unicode and correctly quoted as such by my terminal.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929071 << the interesting bit is that i got 0 barf when importing phf's log (i.e. including all of the historic uniturds seen in log in 'era 2')
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje when you wake up, plz describe how you actually got the barfola into yer irc client, so can reproduce.
asciilifeform: (i.e. #asciilifeform-test bot happily eats 100% of the examples )
asciilifeform: pasting from the wikitardia dun seem to do the trick either
asciilifeform: grrr apparently can't reproduce by pasting from phf's log, cuz -- surprise!111 -- it all turns into valid utf8 when displayed there
asciilifeform: ^ this one is the last-vpatch ver
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 6d 11h 48m
asciilifeform: however, the bot that is here , does ~not~ have the phf pill, that one is in #asciilifeform-test
asciilifeform: ( today strictly )
asciilifeform digging through barfology log on dulap, will brb
asciilifeform: nao will have to see wtf it was that mp_en_viaje found (3 'magick' turds ? )
asciilifeform: uniturd search worked from day 1 ( of items that actually made it into the db, that is )
mp_en_viaje shall now be off attending to household dramaz, will bbl tho.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 22:21:36 asciilifeform: btw just as i thought, lobbes's searchtron fails if fed the liquishit in question.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928989 << i dun think there's any merit to getting unicode ~search~ going ; the specification of search in #13 implicitly exclues them. plainascii search is good enough.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 21:27:38 asciilifeform: unless someone supplies, in next coupla days, a simple AND WORKING pill, i'ma do this : anything coming into the bot that dun decode cleanly as utf8, will have the offending chars (i.e. any with 8th bit set) replaced with that glyph that depicts a steaming pile of shit.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928982 << there's nothing in principle wrong with this solution. there may be some practical concerns (ie, might want to get a working unicode set first) ; but other than that i don't see the advantage to having numbers-in-a-rectangle, for instance, in preference of a fixed turd.
mp_en_viaje: or "who do your feelings indicate was the rapist" or any such nonsense, neh ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 21:12:20 asciilifeform: burned entire evening on this, and is no closer to a ~lead~ to a solution (not even speaking of actual solution) than before.
mp_en_viaje: trilema/2019-08-10#1927160][feelings] indicate was the rapist" or any such nonsense, neh ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928975 << well ok, but you could also just you know, run the unicode table through the system and see where the problems are and why, ie exactly what i've done above. not like it was some kind of high arcana or anything, neh, when confronted with unexpected behaviour run the whole class through see what hapens, rather than "try to divine a culprit" or "who do your [http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/
mp_en_viaje: for reference, i've also echoed the 48 lines through lynx-php-mysql ; they're visible php-yourbrowser at http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-goes-dark/#comment-130940 ; it croaks (as expected) on the first codepoint with no associated glyph (ln20).
mp_en_viaje: now that we're talking about this, i recall a similar (if more restrained) experiment with phf, maybe cca late 2017, and he went away and came back with a properly wroking logger a week or so later -- though i dunno that he ever wrote a blog article detailing the problem and its solution
mp_en_viaje: note that both loggers miss some glyphs, rendering them as eg 01f737 in a box. this is different behaviour from simply dropping the line.
mp_en_viaje: the only possible conclusion is that unicode support is actually broken on either the flask, the python outright, or some other library asciilifeform is using there. it's true that it was coincidentally discovered by cp1252 translation failure, but it is not limited to that. things missing from nsa log like the micron above are plain unicode and correctly quoted as such by my terminal.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 07:55:31 mp_en_viaje: this then completes our foray into the unpleasant.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 07:33:56 mp_en_viaje: let's do some selected testing then.
a111: Logged on 2019-08-16 11:13 mp_en_viaje: this then completes our foray into the unpleasant.