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asciilifeform: if this sounds perplexing, go an' pick up the language, it will take you an evening or so.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't really a language with 'greybeard potential', no dark corners, 50pg. standard. if you wanted to program your interstellar ship in it, you would go to look for intelligent engineers and teach'em forth (in about a day), rather than to look for 'forth greybeard'
ben_vulpes: sounded complex and unlikely to find a home between traditional turbine and rel-style multimodal rockets
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 03:44 asciilifeform had 'tricks of the unix masters', old maculature crud, on his shelf as a student, and an actual greybeard saw, asked 'where is your 'tricks of the doom masters' to go next to this'
trinque: ah, thought ya meant they were eaten by fighter manufacturers.
trinque turns on top gun theme
ben_vulpes: fwiw, intel holds that several 'important' (i cannot evaluate that) forth greybeards have been distracted by very strange flugencraft
asciilifeform: afaik his logic synthesistron is not published. i would dearly love to be proven wrong about this tho.
mircea_popescu: iirc he made some ridiculously tiny toolchains too
asciilifeform: but this is an apocryphal thing, afaik he has not published the entire thing anywhere.
asciilifeform: now! it ~is~ 'republican' in the sense where -- iirc -- moore eschews the traditional '1000 terabyte and 10x10^8 dollars' fab toolchain in favour of his own
ben_vulpes: you've even said that chip speed is trumped by coherent semantics to the bedrock.
ben_vulpes: well i read it as "forth chip by chuck moore" and that's more appealing than anything else i've seen.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: moore's greenarray is really closer to fpga (but with hypertrophied LUTs!) than to a cpu
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 10baseT is surprisingly easy to 'bitbang-implement'
ben_vulpes: and in other NICs: "A software-defined full duplex 10baseT Network Interface Controller is implemented as a team of nodes controlling transmit and receive signal pins directly. The signals are conditioned by minimal electrical interface circuitry. External transmit timing is used. The team is designed to function as a memory-mapped device but may be stripped down for direct use by other node teams."
asciilifeform: containing the glue logic b/w the amd debug bus and the arm micro.
asciilifeform: i keep confusing them because there is an 'igloo' in the sageprobe.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 03:44 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does the igloo2 product line have something hilariously wrong with it a la apu2?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "put this OVER THERE" except over there 519s
mircea_popescu: what, everyone wants to write the bootlegger's guide to $object, because it's such a funny recipe, you just add water in the shape of own drool and presto, another cracked.com article ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 03:30 mircea_popescu: i'd rather try to rescue drunks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-10#1600113 << then yer in luck, i suspect that g_l is a good candidate for drink, probably has 6 months or so until hitting bottom ☝︎
mircea_popescu: dude they have a "person" page, "superintelligent shades of color blue" ?
ben_vulpes: half the time i bounce through cliki i end up in a loop of this pointing to that pointing to some Person page pointing back to the totally uninformative original page
mircea_popescu: this cliki thing is written by annoying people.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does the igloo2 product line have something hilariously wrong with it a la apu2? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i'd rather try to rescue drunks. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you can train a bright monkey to do plenty of the things off that list ; but the intelligent can not be helped.
mircea_popescu: and ftr, a somebody who is or is suspected to be smart enough to have done stuff and hasn't isn't thereby above someone who is too dumb to have done anything. on the contrary, and deeply so.
asciilifeform: i'm not familiar enough with gabriel_laddel_p's background to suggest particulars. but since he mentioned ternary arithmetrons, why not go and find out how many muller gates can fit in a lattice igloo.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: if you're feeling energetic, by all means, do something useful. (also there is the option of being useless, but quietly)
gabriel_laddel_p: and can I substitute it with working out the ternary circuts I asked adlai to do?
gabriel_laddel_p: and if not, what would you like done such that I may?
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: am I allowed to respond to people who reference me in the logs?
mircea_popescu: now stfu of your own accord before you have to be stfu'd through even more effort from people who, unlike you, do things.
mircea_popescu: yeah this is not particularly useful. gabriel_laddel_p you're in no position to a) challenge anyone here ; b) hurr durr about what you've done. you've done nothing, outside of being yet another of california's loud bums.
trinque: I am not the one begging with hat in hand.
gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: what _exactly_ have you done with your life that makes your advice so worthwhile?
asciilifeform: in re degrees of certainty. e.g., earning the -10 is quite an achievement, it requires being a reliable compass of nogoodness
trinque: the saner and more beneficial path is to learn.
asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but i actually follow the formulation given in mircea_popescu's handbook
gabriel_laddel_p: if you don't want to hear what I've got to say, just negrate me, !!down and be done with it.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: pro tip: when you abuse things, they will also abuse you back.
gabriel_laddel_p: systems exist to be abused, was intentional
asciilifeform: wot.deedbot.org is the current.
asciilifeform: good example (though link to obsolete wotron)
asciilifeform: concerning the meaning of ratings, i.e. conveying degrees of certainty
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: didja ever read mircea_popescu's guide to wotronics ?
gabriel_laddel_p: and referenced the heart of the matter - lisp
gabriel_laddel_p: As such, I concluded that my rating was (in your view) "teh last straw!111!
gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: I see no one could interpret my rating of BingoBoingo as crying/flailing, and the only "ship" of mine people here have attempted to right is Masamune.
trinque: gabriel_laddel_p: I didn't say a thing about lisp.
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: Humans are charming, aren't they?
phf: though apparently it's been gone from the web for a while now
gabriel_laddel_p: you programmed atop these machines for how many years before discovering lisp?
trinque: you should feel honored that folks spent as much time as they did trying to right your ship.
trinque: gabriel_laddel_p: the crying/flailing has gotten old by now.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 02:34 mircea_popescu: who the fuck reads biographies of mathematicians.
mircea_popescu: i cant readily think of any less interesting subject of a biography than a mathematician. if the dude spent his life in solitary confinment with pen and paper it'd make nary a difference.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck reads biographies of mathematicians. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 01:08 pete_dushenski: "My overall conclusion is that chickens are just as cognitively, emotionally and socially complex as most other birds and mammals in many areas, and that there is a need for further noninvasive comparative behavioral research with chickens as well as a re-framing of current views about their intelligence."
gabriel_laddel_p: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-10#1600006 < if we're going to talk to anything, let's talk to dolphins. http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/vocal.htm ☝︎
asciilifeform: 4 jan. 2017 : ' Multiple vulnerabilities in the NVIDIA Windows GPU Display Driver kernel mode layer (nvlddmkm.sys) handler for DxgDdiEscape and a vulnerability in the Linux GPU Display Driver kernel mode layer (nvidia.ko)'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p really knows how to Win Phriendz And Influence People!11
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 00:44 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well gotta keep the record of excellence in the log so we can point gabriel to a minimum viable residence
phf: (this is totally unrelated, i just don't feel one way or another about subj. when i was in my early twenties i also adopted mannerisms. i agree though, is not becoming of ~adult~)
asciilifeform: it is about as becoming of an adult as trying to speed up bicycle by 'vroom, vrooom, vrooom!'
phf: seems like a math grad thing. i know a handful of people who do shit like that
asciilifeform: starting from the most nonsensical (e.g. inability to use a can opener)
asciilifeform: always reminds me of this gurl (undergrad) who REALLYWANTED!111 to be a GreatMathematician and decided to... copy the quirks, nervous ticks, of paul erdos. as described in the biography.
asciilifeform: i will also note that pete_dushenski for some perverse reason often copies this style and it is extremely taxing.
mircea_popescu: now this said, more in the general he does have a tedious self-promoting tone. i expect it's scar tissue from years spent in us corps, among idiots disinclined to naturally bow to their betters.
mircea_popescu: just, he doesn't know how to speak, because not educated [in this field] and consequently trades the offending of the many for the offending of the few. obviously a bad deal.
mircea_popescu: but the piece says "dumbass does NOT have a say in how her daughter is used."
asciilifeform: this is not obvious from the linked piece.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's talking about old women.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 13:58 asciilifeform: y begin to understand that a hacker is someone who resembles Eric Raymond. Dave Winer has recently and mercifully moved his essays off to audio, but you can still hear him snorfling cashew nuts and talking at length about what it means to be a blogger[7] . These essays and this writing style are tempting to people outside the subculture at hand because of their engaging personal tone and idiosyncratic, insider's view. But after a whi
asciilifeform: upper endurance of ~5min. when reading taleb.
asciilifeform: 'It took me a while to overcome my disgust –I am still not fully familiar with the way non-risk takers work; they actually don’t realize that others are not like them, what makes people in the real world tick. No, businessmen as risk takers are not subjected to the judgment of other businessmen, only that of their personal accountant –unless they are peons in a hierarchy...' << ftr this is the allergen that gives asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: http://68.media.tumblr.com/cd8fbac68a87f9a757def926fe669712/tumblr_o15nw9aWGB1uh08a7o1_1280.jpg << and the SLUT breastplate actually exists
mircea_popescu: lol "same neuroanatomical substrate". nobody knows anything anymore do they. "cpu and beach are made of the same granularoabrasive substrate so there may be a secret place to plug in every beach. more non-invasive searching for the beach power cord is in order."
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i'll save that story for another time. it's a gooder.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: eh theory prolly wasn't unique to byron anyways. greeks likely had it.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski et al : where is the auto that still has rubber bumper ?
ben_vulpes: the memory fabricator is in full swing over here. wants to say that it was a tome that fell out of a moldbug piece but i really have nfi.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: that conclusion only lives here, ie. between the lines.
ben_vulpes: the one, but that's probably not right.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: and somehow the conclusion that "most humans are barely over the cognitive threshold of a farm animal" never presents itself
ben_vulpes: i can't remember who it was (byron? meep, no clue), but held that "before long, they'll be wanting rights for cats and dogs, cows and hogs"
pete_dushenski: "In particular, the avian forebrain (the part of the brain involved in problem-solving and other higher-order cognitive capacities) is actually derived from the same neuroanatomical substrate as the mammalian forebrain, providing more potential evidence for similar cognitive capacities in the two groups (Jarvis et al. 2005)." << see ? just like you and me. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: animal rights has been the funniest joke about progressivism since before women were even up for the franchise
pete_dushenski: "My overall conclusion is that chickens are just as cognitively, emotionally and socially complex as most other birds and mammals in many areas, and that there is a need for further noninvasive comparative behavioral research with chickens as well as a re-framing of current views about their intelligence." ☟︎
pete_dushenski: inb4 'birdbrain' becomes a compliment in the 4th reich
pete_dushenski: speaking of snowflakes, if every herpaderp is a citizen and a qualified human being right out the womb, it's about time that chickens get the vote too. they're bright enough! http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10071-016-1064-4
BingoBoingo: pics coming after sobertime. This was the teaser.
BingoBoingo: In other news, adventures in furniture making have begun. Bookshelf started and completed in ~2.5 hours. 47" tall 23" shelves, plantation raised monterey pine, held with 2-1/2" construction screws.
ben_vulpes: noty, i think i'll stick with toyotas
ben_vulpes: handcrafted benzo, cheap to maintain fuckinlol
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: you could surely get a deal on a dirty, beat-to-shit g-wagen. from what i hear they're not cheap to maintain