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nam-shub: I know a guy that sends numbers to accountants all day -- he desperately wants more bitcoin
Vexual: im not trying to belittle accountants, but in my experience, there are two kinds, and you prolly need a third
Vexual: he doesnt miss a trick
mircea_popescu: i thought he was a coder.
Vexual: pankakke might be a good acct
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7wiwgOlVT1qlne6uo1_500.jpg <<< imo this is a great idea.
Vexual: not a cheap one
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 12 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <smickles> easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> srsly i would kick in for an offical b-a accountant. <<< me too. sadly...
mike_c: another month, a clean slate. good luck managers!
mike_c: srsly i would kick in for an offical b-a accountant.
mircea_popescu: "a while back i finally figured out what makes a good relationship." << from, of course, reddit.
mircea_popescu: mpif report is out. apparently this month we lost almost a whole bitcoin SOMEHOW
mircea_popescu: "how you doing ? " "busy" "so come over" "oh baby i can't, gotta drop off the kid to ballet class" "so drop her off to her ballet class and come over for a ballet class of your own" "mmmmmmm okay"
thestringpuller: and this is a bar of middle aged people
mircea_popescu: you can open it in a bar too
thestringpuller: only if I wasn't in a bar
mircea_popescu: that's not a cyst, that's normal.
BingoBoingo: dignork> http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m02mbnkHcY1r9mubdo1_500.jpg << She prolly ought to see a doctor about that cyst in her natal cleft
dignork: mircea_popescu: as an expert in nothing, the writing is "only xyz's cock" , xyz is probably a happy owner
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla nah that's coming in a few.
mircea_popescu: first month tho, how many businesses show a clear hundred in their first month.
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes like .1% a month.
mircea_popescu: f.mpif if making very little on its outlay, but i think it'll stick supporting wol for a while longer.
mircea_popescu: s.wol is carrying a lot of capital, but i think rather than pay dividends it's probably wider to just hold on to it for a little.
BingoBoingo: …public works must serve a community. Open source licensing ensures the Tools are accessible to the world. We have not found any authority for the proposition that the world is a community within the meaning of § 501(c)(3).
BingoBoingo: IRS Speak >> "…public works must serve a community. Open source licensing ensures the Tools are accessible to the world. We have not found any authority for the proposition that the world is a community within the meaning of § 501(c)(3)."
asciilifeform: if answer is 'we'll all go first', we have a winner. e.g., treblinka uprising.
ben_vulpes: "Police say Google detected explicit images of a young girl in an email that John Henry Skillern was sending to a friend, the company then alerted authorities."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, with this latest outbreak roughly half are surviving. Ebola is no longer incompatible with a long life.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> "In an ideal world, Kim Kardashian would have spent her life getting sport-fucked anonymously by hip-hop stars in some Bel Air mansion, ran a salon, and either died of a coke overdose or Botox poisoning." << this "ideal" world is actually the world. i dunno what this new shit the kids got going post 2000 is supposed to be, but it ain';t a world in *any* sense
dignork: i'm doing it for a friend, but all this spec looks overcomplicated as shit, and thus probably buggy exploitable
thestringpuller: but we hear about it a lot during the status updates
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smorgasbord | A smorgasbord is typically a lunch buffet-style meal containing hors d'oeuvrs, hot and cold meats, smoked and pickled fish, cheese, salads, and relishes.
gribble: Smörgåsbord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sm%C3%B6rg%C3%A5sbord>; Smorgasbord - Merriam-Webster Online: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/smorgasbord>; Smorgasburg | A Brooklyn Flea Food Market: <http://www.smorgasburg.com/>
gribble: Error: "define" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: but that was thrown in there for the same reason as kardashian. almost like he's got a checklist of traditional american cultural markers.
asciilifeform: 'William Gibson future where you can live like a stainless steel rat...' << this fellow ever read books ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'broken hearted' article: what a psychiatric marvel. note where he bashes his gov. for not confiscating privately owned small arms quickly enough for his liking - and then goes on with some crap about 'rage is necessary component... stop being well-behaved'
thestringpuller: and also I am an asthmatic with bad allergies. i have a feeling when I step off the plane I'll breathe like I've never breathed before!
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=waterhead | The waterhead usually thinks he is the best worker and that he has a really nice smile. He drools a lot. He will try to get his nonretarded coworkers fired.
ben_vulpes: "In an ideal world, Kim Kardashian would have spent her life getting sport-fucked anonymously by hip-hop stars in some Bel Air mansion, ran a salon, and either died of a coke overdose or Botox poisoning."
ben_vulpes: "But the world changed again. And kept changing. So now you’ve got this degree that’s worth fuck-all, a house that’s worth more as scrap lumber than as a substantial investment, and you’re either going to lose your job or have to do the work of two people, because there’s a recession on. Except they keep saying the recession ended, so why are you still working twice as hard for the same amount of money?"
ben_vulpes: "Gen X talked a lot about the revolution, and then went and got themselves some venture capital and started laying into place the oversaturated, paranoid world we live in now. A lot of them tried to tell themselves they were still punk as fuck, but it’s hard to morally reconcile the thing where you listen to Fugazi on the way to your job where you help find new ways to trick people into giving up their data to advertisers. Most people
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: note that it was a guest article
ben_vulpes: spycraft's included putting a laser beam against a window and backing sound waves out of that for a while now.
punkman: "An 8-month, $50 million investigation into MW’s allegations by TRE’s board of directors was inconclusive, largely because senior management lied to investigators, who were not able to verify a majority of the company’s timber assets."
assbot: Genome Biology | Full text | The Kardashian index: a measure of discrepant social media profile for scientists
justusranvier: What's Joseph David up to this time? He's the primary reason I originally started a blog. http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2013/06/27/i-love-the-smell-of-crony-capitalism-in-the-morning/
ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> i saw this picture of a bunch of Canadian red/white maple leaf ATMs form Cavirtex, I wonder if maybe those stockholders from Havelock might get something something outta things in the end... << a) cavirtex is desperate for profit b) doubtful havelock holders are going to get anything as they've been delisted, right?
asciilifeform: small change for the fraud machine, though. why didn't they cancel the account of some fellow selling a truck, or a jet engine
gribble: Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 18913.613 bitcoins, for a total of 18863721.0835 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 0.0235 seconds
mike_c: call bitcoin and initiate a chargeback.
asciilifeform buys a nice little cnc vertical milling machine - next day, ebay account of vendor (in as far as can be told, reputable, old;) is cancelled. no recourse.
mircea_popescu: "take a walk around me. go ahead. found anything ?"
mircea_popescu: random person with a coinbase wallet doesn't have all the other wires tied on germany has.
mircea_popescu: however, it WOULD be marked as a scam.
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as they fell for a scam, neiher could the coinbase customers
mircea_popescu: which is really a very precarious base.
mircea_popescu: he pretty much got it, yes. he's a smart cookie.
mike_c: ah, that makes sense. thanks. the key difference being that they can fuck with the gold price on a larger scale by "printing" gold. and this is what justusranvier was saying about coinbase, that maybe they are printing bitcoin.
gribble: Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 18670.792 bitcoins, for a total of 18722522.1011 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 0.0322 seconds
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 6302846.6123 USD and would take the last price up to 665.0500 USD, resulting in an average price of 630.2847 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 118.0073 seconds
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 597548.5269 USD and would take the last price up to 598.8300 USD, resulting in an average price of 597.5485 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 100.1576 seconds
gribble: Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "buys" is not a valid command.
gribble: (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, (1 more message)
ThickAsThieves: i saw this picture of a bunch of Canadian red/white maple leaf ATMs form Cavirtex, I wonder if maybe those stockholders from Havelock might get something something outta things in the end...
mike_c: bitcoin deposits? coinbase doesn't hold fiat. not sure a bank would know what to do with them.
justusranvier: I don't either, actually. But they are very interested in being bought out. Suppose the company gets purchased by a bank. What will the new owners be interested in doing with that huge pile of customer deposits?
mike_c: justusranvier: i don't believe coinbase has a vested interest in large scale price manipulation. investor-mania would be great for their customer acquisition.
justusranvier: mike_c: What if Coinbase doesn't actually have all the Bitcoins their customers believe they have. They take in a great deal of USD, but how do we know they aren't operating on a fractional reserve? Until people stop leaving their coins in third-party custody, those kinds of price manipulation games are inevietable.
mike_c: i have a gut feel about why you are right, but I'd love to hear you expound on it a bit. If nefarious forces are shoveling money at BTC to suppress price, why will this fail? bitcoin is currently small. you think they just won't be able to keep it up and eventually price will explode?
mircea_popescu: and fail in its mission, even though it in principle could have succeeded,. much like gold had succeeded for a long long time.
punkman1: 3-hour battery life, can only lift 30kg, a bit disappointing
chetty: hahaha I been preaching that one (or similar) for a while, no one wants to give up finger pointing
pete_dushenski: but even that original property, that land o' israel, was distributed by fiat: "kick out everyone else, you deserve this" kind a thing
pete_dushenski: it was a basic economy to be sure
pete_dushenski: "undercapitalization" in economies with jubilees allowed them to last a century or ten rather than this fizz bang pop nao it's here now it isn't stuff
pete_dushenski: someone get us a bottle of water
chetty: <pete_dushenski> punkman1: he's a believer << show this stellartard "never say never" and he'll be a belieber too// belivers we got, need a few more skeptics to throw mud around, imo
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: well i got a condition where i can't differentiate canadian settlements. << maybe we shouldn't have colour-coded them...
pete_dushenski: punkman1: he's a believer << show this stellartard "never say never" and he'll be a belieber too
pete_dushenski: looks like mpex had a bunch of new registrants last month. que bueno
assbot: The Transition. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell fluffypony thanks man. there was a whole transition and everything: http://contravex.com/2014/07/29/the-transition/
ThickAsThieves: hotels just need a way to review customers
fluffypony: this is CoinDesk in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_F5GxCwizc
punkman1: ThickAsThieves: they need the Rake: "Never believe a thing simply because you want it to be true"
chetty: I generally consider it a useful mental exercise to consider the possible extremes
ThickAsThieves: in most cases, a future they may never even see
ThickAsThieves: yes i agree bitcoin is a great tool, but it's hard for people to resist the urge to close their eyes and blink into a magical future
chetty: always a good thing :)
ThickAsThieves: yes the guy did write a decent article
chetty: I think we are all fumbling a bit, not sure where all of this leads
ThickAsThieves: it's a thin line between the derps claiming the magic of bitcoin 2.0 and the magic of bitcoinpolitics 2.0
chetty: he should, but its not a bad start on some of the ideas
ThickAsThieves: and what is a state?
ThickAsThieves: but how many places to go that won't impost a state on you?